Making a Ghillie Suit

[Karilas]

Why make one when you can simply find a creek and let nature do it for you?

 

[Napierdalac]

Forget paintball unless you want paint jizz all over your carefully made suit. Pick up airsoft. And maybe then you'll learn how unnecessary a ghillie suit really is...

Say what?? Ghillie suit, unnecessary in airsoft?? You sir, have never played milsim.

Milsim is the only kind of airsoft worth playing. I've only ever seen a ghillie suit work in the hands of a true-blue ex-Army sniper, and even he prefers BDUs, because sniping in airsoft is rather pointless (put another way - everything a bolt action rifle can do can be done better with an AEG).

Uhm.. No? lol.

- Either you have never played REAL milsim, or you play in a country with childrensrules.

An AEG better than a CO2 Boltaction high muzzlevelocity sniper rifle? lol sir. Sure it's real milsim rules you play with?? - Hell, the official rules set where i play, dictates that snipers must be boltaction.

 

[Gaz6231]

You gonna go fight a clandestine war? You gonna be doing something that would require you to be camouflaged?

If not, don't bother.

 

[MercurySteam]

I saw someone wearing one at school. They look pretty awesome.

 

[UrbanCohort]

Forget paintball unless you want paint jizz all over your carefully made suit. Pick up airsoft. And maybe then you'll learn how unnecessary a ghillie suit really is...

Say what?? Ghillie suit, unnecessary in airsoft?? You sir, have never played milsim.

Milsim is the only kind of airsoft worth playing. I've only ever seen a ghillie suit work in the hands of a true-blue ex-Army sniper, and even he prefers BDUs, because sniping in airsoft is rather pointless (put another way - everything a bolt action rifle can do can be done better with an AEG).

Uhm.. No? lol.

- Either you have never played REAL milsim, or you play in a country with childrensrules.

An AEG better than a CO2 Boltaction high muzzlevelocity sniper rifle? lol sir. Sure it's real milsim rules you play with?? - Hell, the official rules set where i play, dictates that snipers must be boltaction.

At Operation Northern Lights (an OP Lion Claws national event), the Renegade Sniper teams (many of whom I know personally) wiped out the opposing teams and secured an objective before the main forces were even let in. They were using AEGs (with the FA function disabled, obviously) - you can do the math from there.

In New England, the requirements to use a gun that fires over 400 fps is that the Full-auto function is either diabled, or doesn't exist in the first place. In exchange, they have a 100ft minimum engagement range (for those who aren't in the know - they can't fire on anyone closer than 100')

 

[Napierdalac]

Forget paintball unless you want paint jizz all over your carefully made suit. Pick up airsoft. And maybe then you'll learn how unnecessary a ghillie suit really is...

Say what?? Ghillie suit, unnecessary in airsoft?? You sir, have never played milsim.

Milsim is the only kind of airsoft worth playing. I've only ever seen a ghillie suit work in the hands of a true-blue ex-Army sniper, and even he prefers BDUs, because sniping in airsoft is rather pointless (put another way - everything a bolt action rifle can do can be done better with an AEG).

Uhm.. No? lol.

- Either you have never played REAL milsim, or you play in a country with childrensrules.

An AEG better than a CO2 Boltaction high muzzlevelocity sniper rifle? lol sir. Sure it's real milsim rules you play with?? - Hell, the official rules set where i play, dictates that snipers must be boltaction.

At Operation Northern Lights (an OP Lion Claws national event), the Renegade Sniper teams (many of whom I know personally) wiped out the opposing teams and secured an objective before the main forces were even let in. They were using AEGs (with the FA function disabled, obviously) - you can do the math from there.

In New England, the requirements to use a gun that fires over 400 fps is that the Full-auto function is either diabled, or doesn't exist in the first place. In exchange, they have a 100ft minimum engagement range (for those who aren't in the know - they can't fire on anyone closer than 100')

I see the problem now sir. Childrenrules. 400 FPS is nothing, hell my CO2 pistol shoots 400 FPS My boltaction sniper rifle is shooting at 170 m/s which is around 560 fps. My AEG shoots 150 m/s (ca. 490 FPS) in forrest games, and FA is allowed. In Urban CQB, my AEG shoots wih an 130 m/s spring (ca. 430 FPS) and FA is ofc, still allowed! We have a 1 meter safety distance on AEGs and Sidearms and only when we shoot faster than 160 m/s we have a 30 meter safety distance.

EDIT: Should note, that we use .25g BB's in pistols and CQB AEG's, .28 in forrest AEG's and my boltaction sniper is using .43

 

[UrbanCohort]

Forget paintball unless you want paint jizz all over your carefully made suit. Pick up airsoft. And maybe then you'll learn how unnecessary a ghillie suit really is...

Say what?? Ghillie suit, unnecessary in airsoft?? You sir, have never played milsim.

Milsim is the only kind of airsoft worth playing. I've only ever seen a ghillie suit work in the hands of a true-blue ex-Army sniper, and even he prefers BDUs, because sniping in airsoft is rather pointless (put another way - everything a bolt action rifle can do can be done better with an AEG).

Uhm.. No? lol.

- Either you have never played REAL milsim, or you play in a country with childrensrules.

An AEG better than a CO2 Boltaction high muzzlevelocity sniper rifle? lol sir. Sure it's real milsim rules you play with?? - Hell, the official rules set where i play, dictates that snipers must be boltaction.

At Operation Northern Lights (an OP Lion Claws national event), the Renegade Sniper teams (many of whom I know personally) wiped out the opposing teams and secured an objective before the main forces were even let in. They were using AEGs (with the FA function disabled, obviously) - you can do the math from there.

In New England, the requirements to use a gun that fires over 400 fps is that the Full-auto function is either diabled, or doesn't exist in the first place. In exchange, they have a 100ft minimum engagement range (for those who aren't in the know - they can't fire on anyone closer than 100')

I see the problem now sir. Childrenrules. 400 FPS is nothing, hell my CO2 pistol shoots 400 FPS My boltaction sniper rifle is shooting at 170 m/s which is around 560 fps. My AEG shoots 150 m/s (ca. 490 FPS) in forrest games, and FA is allowed. In Urban CQB, my AEG shoots wih an 130 m/s spring (ca. 430 FPS) and FA is ofc, still allowed! We have a 1 meter safety distance on AEGs and Sidearms and only when we shoot faster than 160 m/s we have a 30 meter safety distance.

EDIT: Should note, that we use .25g BB's in pistols and CQB AEG's, .28 in forrest AEG's and my boltaction sniper is using .43

I think it's my turn to question your style of milsim, good sir. Whether or not a person can use a ghillie suit well is entirely unrelated to FPS. You should know at this point, as someone experienced, that MILSIM is an attitude (mostly), more than the gun, BDU, and jargon you use.

EDIT - imagine this being said in the least confrontational way possible

 

[Napierdalac]

Forget paintball unless you want paint jizz all over your carefully made suit. Pick up airsoft. And maybe then you'll learn how unnecessary a ghillie suit really is...

Say what?? Ghillie suit, unnecessary in airsoft?? You sir, have never played milsim.

Milsim is the only kind of airsoft worth playing. I've only ever seen a ghillie suit work in the hands of a true-blue ex-Army sniper, and even he prefers BDUs, because sniping in airsoft is rather pointless (put another way - everything a bolt action rifle can do can be done better with an AEG).

Uhm.. No? lol.

- Either you have never played REAL milsim, or you play in a country with childrensrules.

An AEG better than a CO2 Boltaction high muzzlevelocity sniper rifle? lol sir. Sure it's real milsim rules you play with?? - Hell, the official rules set where i play, dictates that snipers must be boltaction.

At Operation Northern Lights (an OP Lion Claws national event), the Renegade Sniper teams (many of whom I know personally) wiped out the opposing teams and secured an objective before the main forces were even let in. They were using AEGs (with the FA function disabled, obviously) - you can do the math from there.

In New England, the requirements to use a gun that fires over 400 fps is that the Full-auto function is either diabled, or doesn't exist in the first place. In exchange, they have a 100ft minimum engagement range (for those who aren't in the know - they can't fire on anyone closer than 100')

I see the problem now sir. Childrenrules. 400 FPS is nothing, hell my CO2 pistol shoots 400 FPS My boltaction sniper rifle is shooting at 170 m/s which is around 560 fps. My AEG shoots 150 m/s (ca. 490 FPS) in forrest games, and FA is allowed. In Urban CQB, my AEG shoots wih an 130 m/s spring (ca. 430 FPS) and FA is ofc, still allowed! We have a 1 meter safety distance on AEGs and Sidearms and only when we shoot faster than 160 m/s we have a 30 meter safety distance.

EDIT: Should note, that we use .25g BB's in pistols and CQB AEG's, .28 in forrest AEG's and my boltaction sniper is using .43

I think it's my turn to question your style of milsim, good sir. Whether or not a person can use a ghillie suit well is entirely unrelated to FPS. You should know at this point, as someone experienced, that MILSIM is an attitude (mostly), more than the gun, BDU, and jargon you use.

EDIT - imagine this being said in the least confrontational way possible

- I take no offense fellow milsimmer!

Well, our style of milsim (im talking about our forrest games now) always takes days. The least we play is friday-sunday, and often up to a week. The longest game i have partaken in, was 2 weeks. And we are talking combat all of the time, even when we sleep we have to wear safety goggles. So you may guess, that none of our games are played like "CHAAAAAAAAAAARGE!!!!" Our snipers, including me sometimes, allways wear ghillie suits, because of the whole lot of waiting around, in the perfect spot, waiting for the damn perfect kill Our snipers rarely shoot more than 1-2 per day of game, but those 2 kills are allways the most important kills. Ofc, we often have a sort of combat-sniper, with an AEG and dressed in a BDU, but they rarely are the real killers. But as you can imagine, ghilliesuits are justified when you spend 1-2 days as a sniper team, sneaking up on the enemy encampment, preparing to offer your "country" support when the assault comes.

But ofc, the friday-sunday games, rarely anyone of the snipers wear a ghillie suit, but in my mind those games are more like practice.

Most often, when we play the long games, i play as spotter in the sniper team. That means i will wear a ghilliesuit too, but armed with an AEG instead. But i guess you allready now that ^^

I hope you understand, what I'm trying to say here.. Ghilliesuits are for sneaking, not for combat.

Our CQB games, are mostly just a couple of hours on a sunday - we play these types of games allmost every sunday. The friday-sunday games are around once per month. and the weeklong games are mostly during summertime, 1-2 games like that per summer

If you don't mind me asking, those games in America (assuming thats where your from, since you said New England) are they as awesome looking, as the videos on youtube makes them look? I see pyro's, exploding vehicles etc. Pyro's are not allowed here where we play -.-

 

[UrbanCohort]

Not always. Those tend to be National Events that get posted on youtube. Lot's of smokes and pyro/noise makers (they count as grenades at most fields) are used at most events, depends on the field. We normally don't have events lasting days because people usually have other things they need to be doing...

But yeah, up here in NE we play pretty hard - at Northern Lights (I'm referencing it again) my buddies made up about half of the Renegade force, which was outnumbered 2-3:1 by the US/NATO forces and the Renegades *destroyed* the other force...I wasn't there but the guys who won it are people I play with on a regular basis, and I get out at least once a month usually...

 

[Napierdalac]

Not always. Those tend to be National Events that get posted on youtube. Lot's of smokes and pyro/noise makers (they count as grenades at most fields) are used at most events, depends on the field. We normally don't have events lasting days because people usually have other things they need to be doing...

But yeah, up here in NE we play pretty hard - at Northern Lights (I'm referencing it again) my buddies made up about half of the Renegade force, which was outnumbered 2-3:1 by the US/NATO forces and the Renegades *destroyed* the other force...I wasn't there but the guys who won it are people I play with on a regular basis, and I get out at least once a month usually...

Ahh okay. Sounds alot like our games then, except our 'national' events, pyros still aint allowed ^^

- All the guys i play with have full time jobs, wifes/girlfriends and other social things we need to be doing. I my self, is a full time student with a part time job. Girlfriend is never happy when i go out for a whole weekend, but hey - i don't complain when she goes shopping do i?

We have often talked about going to the states to play, at one of your large events. But the muzzle velocity rules you are talking about is scaring us away, quite bad :/ we all have to 'downtune' our guns, in order to play with ya'll - There is somekind of rule with your guns, having a red tip on the muzzle also right? I see it, in allmost all of the american youtube videos.

 

[UrbanCohort]

Not always. Those tend to be National Events that get posted on youtube. Lot's of smokes and pyro/noise makers (they count as grenades at most fields) are used at most events, depends on the field. We normally don't have events lasting days because people usually have other things they need to be doing...

But yeah, up here in NE we play pretty hard - at Northern Lights (I'm referencing it again) my buddies made up about half of the Renegade force, which was outnumbered 2-3:1 by the US/NATO forces and the Renegades *destroyed* the other force...I wasn't there but the guys who won it are people I play with on a regular basis, and I get out at least once a month usually...

Ahh okay. Sounds alot like our games then, except our 'national' events, pyros still aint allowed ^^

- All the guys i play with have full time jobs, wifes/girlfriends and other social things we need to be doing. I my self, is a full time student with a part time job. Girlfriend is never happy when i go out for a whole weekend, but hey - i don't complain when she goes shopping do i?

We have often talked about going to the states to play, at one of your large events. But the muzzle velocity rules you are talking about is scaring us away, quite bad :/ we all have to 'downtune' our guns, in order to play with ya'll - There is somekind of rule with your guns, having a red tip on the muzzle also right? I see it, in allmost all of the american youtube videos.

Orange tips are usually ignored, you only need them if you're trying to sell it...90% of players either cover them or replace it with a proper flash hider.

As for FPS...well, it's not that bad, especially when you consider that I've seen BBs go clean through a person's cheek shooting about 430 with .25s (at close quarters). Player was banned permanently for fielding a hot weapon and cheating the chrono.

 

[darksakul]

Since the long summers coming up soon, i want to do something to pass the time. I thought about it, and hell, why not build my own Ghillie Suit. Now i know you can buy new ones for around £70 to £200 depending on the quality, but i'd like to try making one myself. Ive looked at alot of videos on youtube on how to create one, I have most of the gear already, but I dont have the Jute twine. I have been told that 8000 feet is the right amount, but that seems alot more then whats needed.
Has anyone here ever created their own ghillie suit; if so, how much twine did you use, and how sturdy and reliable is it?

Actual military personnel, especially snipers never use premade or commercial Ghillie Suits.
They make their own, a Ghillie suit is not to look bad ass, but to camouflage into a area.
As Snipers go, trees and woods are not always available, the idea of the ghillie suit is to break up your form, as you integrate local vegetation to blend into your surroundings. Sometimes 1 ghillie suit is not enough, where new suits are made to fit with local terrain.

 

[Napierdalac]

Not always. Those tend to be National Events that get posted on youtube. Lot's of smokes and pyro/noise makers (they count as grenades at most fields) are used at most events, depends on the field. We normally don't have events lasting days because people usually have other things they need to be doing...

But yeah, up here in NE we play pretty hard - at Northern Lights (I'm referencing it again) my buddies made up about half of the Renegade force, which was outnumbered 2-3:1 by the US/NATO forces and the Renegades *destroyed* the other force...I wasn't there but the guys who won it are people I play with on a regular basis, and I get out at least once a month usually...

Ahh okay. Sounds alot like our games then, except our 'national' events, pyros still aint allowed ^^

- All the guys i play with have full time jobs, wifes/girlfriends and other social things we need to be doing. I my self, is a full time student with a part time job. Girlfriend is never happy when i go out for a whole weekend, but hey - i don't complain when she goes shopping do i?

We have often talked about going to the states to play, at one of your large events. But the muzzle velocity rules you are talking about is scaring us away, quite bad :/ we all have to 'downtune' our guns, in order to play with ya'll - There is somekind of rule with your guns, having a red tip on the muzzle also right? I see it, in allmost all of the american youtube videos.

Orange tips are usually ignored, you only need them if you're trying to sell it...90% of players either cover them or replace it with a proper flash hider.

As for FPS...well, it's not that bad, especially when you consider that I've seen BBs go clean through a person's cheek shooting about 430 with .25s (at close quarters). Player was banned for fielding a hot weapon and cheating the chrono.

I understand why cover up the orange tips ! Thankfully we don't have to deal with that ^^

Yeah, I have seen alot of injury's from close quarters. I have not been injured yet thank god - and i only play with a mouthguard and a pair of Oakley M-Frame 2.0 sunglasses. But yeah, i have seen broken teeth, and one guy digging out a BB from his arm.. Wont stop me from playing the game tho! And it definetly won't stop me, from shooting with 130 m/s ++ !

 

[UrbanCohort]

Yeah we get those up here, and that's with 400 fps limits and single fire in certain areas. I'm going to invest in an iron mesh lower mask so I don't have to worry about my teeth being shot out...

Anyways, my guns shoot at about 280 average (low by any standard - they're completely stock except for the batteries) and I've got people who are trying to convince me that I'm better than I am...I guess it just goes to show, the person behind the gun matters more than the hardware. I don't believe I'm all that good though, just slightly above average...

 

[googleboy]

Since the long summers coming up soon, i want to do something to pass the time. I thought about it, and hell, why not build my own Ghillie Suit. Now i know you can buy new ones for around £70 to £200 depending on the quality, but i'd like to try making one myself. Ive looked at alot of videos on youtube on how to create one, I have most of the gear already, but I dont have the Jute twine. I have been told that 8000 feet is the right amount, but that seems alot more then whats needed.
Has anyone here ever created their own ghillie suit; if so, how much twine did you use, and how sturdy and reliable is it?

I made one of these for a 'stalking and skulking' campout with my scout troop some 10 years ago. What we did was buy a cape sized bit of fish net and then tied burlap strips to it by hand (various colors). After that, we took large sized combs and combed out the cross members of the burlap strips. This left a stringy texture. Roll around in some dirt and leaves etc and voila, a Ghillie suit!

Feel free to message me if you have any questions.

 

[TerribleAssassin]

Get some green clothing, and shit loads of burlap, dye them brown, dark green and moss green and spend alot of time sewing...

 

[Napierdalac]

Yeah we get those up here, and that's with 400 fps limits and single fire in certain areas. I'm going to invest in an iron mesh lower mask so I don't have to worry about my teeth being shot out...

Anyways, my guns shoot at about 280 average (low by any standard - they're completely stock except for the batteries) and I've got people who are trying to convince me that I'm better than I am...I guess it just goes to show, the person behind the gun matters more than the hardware. I don't believe I'm all that good though, just slightly above average...

Ofc, the person wielding the gun, has more to say than the gun. But if a skilled player, wields a proper weapon - that person will own. I went from a normal AEG to a Systema M4 PTW MAX, and by GOD the hardware do have something to say When you hit everything you aim at, you get a big advantage.

- I use a net mash thingy to cover my teeth in CQB, they work really well. You wont have big problems with the lenses fogging up either.

 

[o0BigDave0o]

one of the things i think about when making the suit is the sowing of the jute or burlap onto the netting. do i have to sow each one individually or something? or is there a shortcut?