Man accussed of threatening POTUS gets his 70 guns back.

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senordesol

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A New Jersey appeals court says a man accused of talking about shooting President Obama can get his gun collection back.

John Brek was working at Newark Liberty International Airport in 2009 when he was overheard talking about how easy it would be to shoot the president, who was scheduled to arrive the next day.

Brek was charged with making terroristic threats but pleaded guilty to harassment and served 30 days in jail.

However, a judge denied him the return of more than 70 weapons that had been seized from his house during the investigation.

In a ruling published Tuesday, the three-judge appeals panel ordered the state to return the guns. It cited reports by two mental health professionals that found Brek was not a threat.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nj-man-accused-obama-threat-guns-back-16404945#.T7vCcL8Zz-k

Some people need guns to protect themselves.

Some people need guns to protect their homes.

Some people need guns to protect their guns.
 

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I personally believe in gun control but in this case, under the current US laws, I don't think he should be denied his guns. I don't know about anyone-else but I've had a number of conversations and jokes with friends about how one could commit a terrorist attack and never because any of us actually intend to become terrorists, just because it's an interesting topic to speculate on.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
If everybody has guns...

Then nobody has...


[sub]I don't think that quote translated well...[/sub]
Doesn't work.

"You have a Glock and I have an RPG, therefore neither of us is armed..."
 
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theparsonski said:
Daystar Clarion said:
If everybody has guns...

Then nobody has...


[sub]I don't think that quote translated well...[/sub]
Doesn't work.

"You have a Glock and I have an RPG, therefore neither of us is armed..."
I was trying to go with the 'If everyone is super, then nobody is' line from the Incredibles.

It's didn't work very well :D
 

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Why would you need so many guns? That's just kind of batshit mental.
I wouldn't even have one in my house.

Where would you put seventy guns?
`Pop that in the murder closet, would you dear?`

Because apparently only Daystar could tell I was kidding- IT'S A JOKE PEOPLE. I dont care how many guns you have. You can have guns up your arse for all I care. Stop quoting me!
 
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Phasmal said:
Why would you need so many guns? That's just kind of batshit mental.
I wouldn't even have one in my house.

Where would you put seventy guns?
`Pop that in the murder closet, would you dear?`
Several murder closets, with a steady incremental progression from 'No nonsense' all the way up to 'I need to commit a war crime and break several codes of the Geneva Convention'.
 

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Phasmal said:
Why would you need so many guns? That's just kind of batshit mental.
I wouldn't even have one in my house.

Where would you put seventy guns?
`Pop that in the murder closet, would you dear?`
It's likely a collection, such things are quite popular in the US
 

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Phasmal said:
Why would you need so many guns? That's just kind of batshit mental.
I wouldn't even have one in my house.

Where would you put seventy guns?
`Pop that in the murder closet, would you dear?`
Some people collect stamps, coins, automobiles, guns, etc.

Doesnt necessarily means theyre all in working order or operational. I know many people who collect guns from major wars that have been decommissioned but allowed to own. As for where to put them...how about a gun safe. People who have collections generally keep them locked up for protection.

murder closet...really? its bullshit and ignorant statements like that which give gun ownership bad press. a knife is a deadly weapon, but im sure your kitchen is stocked with an ample supply and you dont go calling it the murder drawer...

im glad you dont have a gun. immature people are dangerous with gun responsibility.
 

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Wushu Panda said:
Oh shush your mush I was joking. I'm fine with guns, no need to get your panties in a twist.
People take things far too seriously.
 

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What I don't get is why some people insist on saying "POTUS" when "President" or the person's name will usually suffice, and seems much less like the name of some dangerous experimental drug.
 

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Lilani said:
What I don't get is why some people insist on saying "POTUS" when "President" or the person's name will usually suffice, and seems much less like the name of some dangerous experimental drug.
Meh, it's an international audience so President of the United States is clearer. I could have said Obama, but I didn't. I don't think it's terribly taxing to glean the meaning.
 

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senordesol said:
Lilani said:
What I don't get is why some people insist on saying "POTUS" when "President" or the person's name will usually suffice, and seems much less like the name of some dangerous experimental drug.
Meh, it's an international audience so President of the United States is clearer. I could have said Obama, but I didn't. I don't think it's terribly taxing to glean the meaning.
Yeah, I understand. It's just one of those acronyms I hate. That, and GOTY. Seriously, that doesn't sound like "Game of the Year." That sounds like some weird goat fetish.
 

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Wushu Panda said:
a knife is a deadly weapon, but im sure your kitchen is stocked with an ample supply and you dont go calling it the murder drawer...
"its bullshit and ignorant statements like that which give gun ownership bad press."

A knifes purpose is not to harm or to murder. It is to cut fruit. A gun is a tool designed to harm and kill things. It is a device that if used for its intended purpose, its ONLY practical purpose, will kill things. It is not comparable to a multi functional knife.

I think guns should be allowed. But cmon the comparison of a usefull house hold tool like a knife and a thing designed to kill people is similar to me saying "You have a pencil, why cant i have genetically altered super anthrax in my house?"
 

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farson135 said:
You are aware that there are some knives designed specifically to kill people right?

Sorry but I am a certified gunsmith and my guns are designed for target shooting and no more.

BTW I am not endorsing the statement of the guy you quoted and I do I not mean to take this off topic.
Yeah i know there are knives made for that purpose. He commented that the kitchen could be called the murder closet. I told him my kitchen is full of knives for cutting fruit. There are knives that are made for killing. Youd be weird for keeping on in your house though. I love target shooting and i keep my gun down at the range under lock and key. Its a good system. Ill give you that though, im talking about house guns for self defence. Its still a killing tool. Treating a gun as anything else is dangerous, its a deadly weapon and it demands respect.
 
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Daystar Clarion said:
If everybody has guns...

Then nobody has...


[sub]I don't think that quote translated well...[/sub]
Ah, but saying everyone is armed is just another way of saying no one else is.

That quote translated not as well.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
Yeah i know there are knives made for that purpose. He commented that the kitchen could be called the murder closet. I told him my kitchen is full of knives for cutting fruit. There are knives that are made for killing. Youd be weird for keeping on in your house though. I love target shooting and i keep my gun down at the range under lock and key. Its a good system. Ill give you that though, im talking about house guns for self defence. Its still a killing tool. Treating a gun as anything else is dangerous, its a deadly weapon and it demands respect.
Have you not heard? Guns are actually an effective method of painting fences and writing poetry.

This harkens back to the original patent, GUN is actually an an acronym for "General Utensil for Nuns", therefore owning many makes you a better person..because nuns.
 

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Seems fine to me. In terms of security, it's not like giving him 70 guns is different from giving him back one rifle...