Man dies protesting helmet law

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Nudu

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ravensheart18 said:
Gamblerjoe said:
I knew that people would make comments on how this is an ironic death. Irony is when you get the opposite of what you expect, usually in a figurative kind of way. When someone opts to take the more dangerous option in a situation, and dies because of it, that is the opposite of irony.

This has been a public service announcement from Gamblerjoe to you.
No, the irony is that he and others claim there is no need for a helmet, then in trying to prove that he proved he was wrong.
Well, I can't know for sure, but I doubt he was claiming that helmets were obsolete. I would think what he was protesting was the right to do stupid things.
 

dalek sec

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GrizzlerBorno said:
The absolute worst/cruelest/funniest bit is that his protest group was called "American Bikers Aiming to Educate".

And Educate he certainly did.....
Pretty much what I was thinking when I read it as well. He sure as hell did educate people about what happens when you don't wear your bloody helmet. I'm not laughing at him for his death or in the manner of which he died but jeez...
 

ShadowsofHope

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Bitter irony strikes again, it seems.

While it's unfortunate the man died, he pretty much did in himself, here.
 

Lilani

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SouthpawFencer said:
Yes.

I always wear a seatbelt, and I'd choose to do so even if I wasn't required to by law (just like I wouldn't shoot heroin or smoke a joint even if drugs were legalized), but I really don't think that it's the government's place to protect us from our own reckless behavior.

Requiring children to be belted is a different matter, since it's not a child's fault if their parents are morons and aren't doing this regardless of existing law.

I'd also be more militant about this sort of thing if hospitals didn't have to treat these people and swallow the cost of the patient can't, or won't, pay. I'm a big believer in personal freedoms (disclaimer: YOUR right to swing your fist ends at the tip of your NEIGHBOR'S nose), but I also believe that people need to take responsibility for their own actions.
I feel like the seatbelt laws are more or less in place to set a common standard for vehicle safety--a clear example for the public. Believe it or not, there are some people out there who actually believe that they have better chances without the seatbelt than with it. They believe, to the core, that everyone would be better off without seatbelts. When those people have children, and it comes time for them to get out of that carseat, what is to keep them from instilling that same sentiment in their children?

Well, nothing. However, knowing that they could get pulled over for not having their seatbelt on could make them reconsider how they act upon that sentiment. Think about it: driving without a seatbelt alone is enough to get pulled over and a ticket. But, so what? Those people don't care about those sorts of tickets. But what they DO care about is getting arrested for child endangerment and neglect. See? They may believe that everyone in their car is safer without seatbelts, but when going without a seatbelt could lead to that sort of arrest, that changes things a bit.

I don't see it as a law to prevent people from being stupid. I see it as a law that keeps the stupidity from spreading so quickly. So, if the seatbelt laws make it so that even just one child gets buckled up a little more often, wouldn't you say it's worth it? And if it's not, just think about all the revenue police departments pull in with those tickets. We could always use a little more money these days. Just don't be stupid, and those tickets will never cost you a dime. And you have the satisfaction of knowing that all over the country, there are actually people who are having to reach into their own wallets to pay for their stupidity! How often do you get to see that happen?
 

The Lugz

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the whole two wheels issue seems to be a common theme on escapist,
let's start with pedal cycles:
thing is, you need a full face downhill safety mask and leathers or full body armour to 'seriously' have enough protection on a bicycle, and that just isn't happening for weight, heat and mobility issues
( it would be highly uncomfortable and undesirable to ride a bicycle like that, and you would go so slow you would be a road hazard or risk suffering heat stroke, and that can be just as deadly as getting hit. )
people pretend the little crown helmets will save your life but in allot of cases where it would be absorbing enough impact to save your life ( at speeds exceeding 30 mph ) it would be just as likely to snap your neck by adding leverage to your cervical vertebrae
they are however great if you fall off or cycle into a wall
and if you actually look at the comments and disclaimers by 'safety experts' they claim that crashes happen at low speeds so the equipment is designed for it,
in laymen's terms they don't work that well if something is steaming for your head
get yourself something like this:
http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=47087&menuItemId=10832&eid=4952

or do not expect to survive a head impact with anything on 4 wheels
what's the difference? this style of helmet is specifically designed to protect you from having your nose implanted in your frontal lobe, and massively reduces neck related trauma by protecting lower down the skull and thus reducing the leverage on your neck

now, for motorcycles and anything with an engine that weighs more than you do in a circumstance like this, you really have no excuse you wont die of heatstroke in leathers and a helmet with a powered vehicle, and you look pretty slick.
if you own an open top car and flip the thing then nothing is going to save you.. rest in pieces

armour is a good idea, but people aren't so smart so what can you do ?

I feel sorry for the guy and his family for epic failing at proving a point
let's hope his death will save many others, that would be a good legacy to leave behind i guess.
 

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I'm sure he was well aware of the risks when he protested wearing a helmet, sadly be paid for it.

By the way, the amount of people on here misinterpreting natural selection is pretty worrying to me.
 

fulano

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That man was a Grade-A dummy. Through and through. May his sad misfortune serve as a cautionary tale to all bikers and wanna-be bikers out there: Wear a Fucking Helmet.
 

DustyDrB

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Well, I still agree with his opinion. Not wearing a helmet puts no one but the nonwearer at risk. I don't see why it should be enforced through law.

Wear a helmet and wear your seatbelt. But you should be wearing them because it's common sense and not because its a law.
 

thedeathscythe

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razer17 said:
thedeathscythe said:
Reminds me of how the owner Segway died on a Segway. It's tragic, but ironic, so it all balances out.
The owner of Segway is still alive and kicking at 60 years old...
Nope, he is dead [http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/segway-death/]. You may be thinking of the creator, as I don't think Jimi Heselden created it, but instead owned the company.
 

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First thought: LOL!11!!! MORON WINZ DARWIN AWARD!!!111
Second thought: There's a reason those laws are there and he proved it.
Third thought: Now, because he didn't wear a helmet, his family is affected because HE'S DEAD.

Your protest screwed over no one but your family.
 

razer17

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thedeathscythe said:
razer17 said:
thedeathscythe said:
Reminds me of how the owner Segway died on a Segway. It's tragic, but ironic, so it all balances out.
The owner of Segway is still alive and kicking at 60 years old...
Nope, he is dead [http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/segway-death/]. You may be thinking of the creator, as I don't think Jimi Heselden created it, but instead owned the company.
Ah, my mistake then. How does one kill themselves on a Segway? They go like 2 mile an hour, you think you'd be able to see a cliff.
 

thedeathscythe

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razer17 said:
thedeathscythe said:
razer17 said:
thedeathscythe said:
Reminds me of how the owner Segway died on a Segway. It's tragic, but ironic, so it all balances out.
The owner of Segway is still alive and kicking at 60 years old...
Nope, he is dead [http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/segway-death/]. You may be thinking of the creator, as I don't think Jimi Heselden created it, but instead owned the company.
Ah, my mistake then. How does one kill themselves on a Segway? They go like 2 mile an hour, you think you'd be able to see a cliff.
I don't even know, I think when the battery starts to die, it goes all ape-shit because it stops being able to balance them or something. And he's a bigger guy, so it probably needed a bit of extra juice to do it. And he was on the side of a cliff, so it probably wasn't a good time for it to die. Even then, you should know the intricacies of the device the company you own produces.
 

Tourmeta

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That's a blow to the protest! Shouldn't be a law though, people can choose to risk their lives if they wish.