Man faces jail for handing in a gun.

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rees263 said:
The Maddest March Hare said:
I am..completely speechless. I wanted to say something relatively snide about the UK law systems, but I can't create even a remotely coherent sentence.

[HEADING=3]Fuck. This. Bullshit.[/HEADING]

The jury should be ashamed, the judge should be fired and the police officer reprimanded for abuse of his power.

This is why I am convinced that the entire country should be purged clean of any and all existing law and order and rebuilt from scratch by people with more half a brain cell between the lot of them.

Fuck, I'm angry now. >:[
Funny you should say that - I'm thinking of standing for parliament so I can create my "common sense committee". Here's the proposal: It would be the highest legal authority in the country. I would chair it and anyone who shows common sense can join. Then when there's a ridiculous case like this we could say "That's stupid" and all charges would be dropped.

I'm only half joking...
I like this idea. When do we begin the reform?

orangebandguy said:
Only in Britain.

Seems typical enough to me.
At least our gun laws help prevent gun crime, rather than encouraging it and giving people a legal right to own the means for it. Both systems have their downsides, ours causes less deaths.
 

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BehattedWanderer said:
And Americans have it hard with our gun laws? Silly UK citizens, not even being allowed guns...And here was I, thinking that the UK is a sensible place.
If i remember right, the reason they cant have guns is because some pervert went crazy and shot up a pre school, but all the same, gun laws are just stupid in every sence of the word, there useless too, because when you put up gun laws, your just hurting the people trying to defend themselfs, not the bad guys, because the bad guys will just be able to get the guns in one way or another. Trust me, we had a lot of talks about this in my ROTC unit, and i mean a lot of talks, most of them, if not all of them, ending with words going along the lines of "idiots."
 

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THIS JUST IN:
A man was just arrested for breathing on a policeman whilst talking to him. The police man regarded the breath has being "violent and provocative". The man is now facing charges and might end up in jail.

The chief of police, when asked, had this to state: "The man was taunting my damn officer, he deserves what's coming to him!"

Later on tonight: "6 year old child finned for laughing whilst passing by an officer of the law."
 

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What so we have ammnesties so people with guns can hand them in scot free, one station was given an fully functional RPG, but when a man tries to hand a shotgun, which is legal with a license, in out of civil goodness he gets arrested?
 

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The Maddest March Hare said:
I am..completely speechless. I wanted to say something relatively snide about the UK law systems, but I can't create even a remotely coherent sentence.
And you don't have to live here! Every day I struggle to put a coherent sentence together because of the stupidity displayed by our authorities.

It's a true lesson to learn isn't it? Do something sensible and safe and get banged up? Go kill people and get off free!
 

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I doubt this verdict will stick. Granted, we will all have moved on to gawk at other matters of apparent social injustice by then, so few of us will see the reversal occur.
 

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I blame the new world order. Obviously it is a plot by them to take this innocent man into jail, so they can make more moneys.
 

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Strict Liability means 'if the cop had a bad day he can make yours worse'. Like parking tickets, he won't care if you were held hostage at a bank being robbed and couldn't move your car, you're paying the fine buddy.
 
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Nanaki316 said:
The Maddest March Hare said:
I am..completely speechless. I wanted to say something relatively snide about the UK law systems, but I can't create even a remotely coherent sentence.
And you don't have to live here! Every day I struggle to put a coherent sentence together because of the stupidity displayed by our authorities.

It's a true lesson to learn isn't it? Do something sensible and safe and get banged up? Go kill people and get off free!
Wait..what? But I do have to live here!

The rest of your sentiment I 100% agree with. Our law systems are, for the most part, lacking more common sense than most other country's. Even the fox hunting ban was so half-arsed that everyone worked out the loopholes within weeks of its release and it's now the same as it always was.
 

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The police should have told him when he called not to handle the gun. This is a horrible miscarriage of justice.
 

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Come to America where guns are legal and we like to shoot em! I actually just got back from the shotgun course which is kinda funny. Guns aren't bad, only people that use them to hurt people. Just like knifes aren't bad, just people that use em to stab people.
 

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Baahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.

This seriously made my day. I mean, I usually hold up America as an example of how a country should not be run, but the UK has spent the last few years just trying to catch up, and claim the spot as the stupidest run country in the world. It would be sad, but it's just too ridiculous. I do feel bad about the guy, but seriously, if the next time he finds a gun and starts shooting every politian, judge and lawyer he sees, I'll be there, pointing and laughing again. Then I'd explain to the bodies about cause and effect, and the psychological effects of discouring people from helping you carry out your own laws (the few that make sense, anyway).
 

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... I'm speechless. Why didn't the police tell him just to give them the location of the weapon? o_O

This deserves a triple facepalm
 

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I have to admit, this has got me baffled.

See, I LIVE in the UK, and I've handed over an unlicensed firearm before now, and didnt get arrested. It went something like this:

My parents had retired and moved to Spain, leaving me in charge of the family home. A couple of years later, I'm tidying out the spare room and what do I find buried under a pile of junk? A World War 2 era rifle (my firearms knowledge sucks, so please dont ask me exactly what type it was). Now, this rifle had been partially disassembled, and the firing mechanism was no where to be seen.

A phone call to my parents gives me the full story: The gun used to belong to my grandfather, and whether or not he had a licence for the damn thing is unknown. My father is sure that the firing mechanism is SOMEWHERE in the house, and even offers a couple of locations I should check. I check, I dont find it. We decide that since there's no licence for this thing (that we know of) we should get rid of it.

I make a phone call to my local police station and explain the whole situation to them, and ask them to please take this thing off my hands as I dont want it. They say they'll send a couple of officers round to collect it.

About an hour later, two chaps in uniform knock on my door. They come in, examine the rifle, ask me a few questions and leave with the gun. At no point was I threatened with arrest or accused of any criminal activity. The closest we got to that was when they explained that the rifle would undergo a strictly routine investigation to make sure it hadnt been used in a crime.

The only difference I can see between what I did and what Paul Clarke did is that I asked the police to come and collect it instead of handing it in...
 

Roscoe_A

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And if someone did that in Wisconsin they would probably tell you to take the gun home and go hunting with it.

OT: That really sucks considering the fact that he was doing something good. i guess this is the point where we consider the fact that being a good Samaritan no longer means anything.
 

Psychemaster

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Actually, I read the article in question. According to it, the gun was not actually mentioned until he actually pulled it out in front of the officer he called - which kind of makes it a little more questionable.

Intent = Good, Method = Bad.