Man kills robber. Community divided.

[TheFacelessOne]

Give this man a medal and move on with your lives.

 

[Deleted]

Don't bring a gun to rob someone unless you're ready to shoot or get shot.

 

[fletch_talon]

Would they have rather had him do nothing?

Sometimes that's better.

If you, or anyone else in the thread, bothered to read the posts or check the articles- you'd know that the shotguns were empty.

How exactly could he have known the shotguns were empty? There is no way to tell whether or not a firearm is loaded, so he had to respond as if it were.
If you point a gun at a someone who knows how to respond to a potentially armed threat, he will shoot you down. He does not first ask you to demonstrate if it is loaded or not, if he did that, he'd be likely to get shot himself. It's better to shoot down a robber with a weapon that later turns out to be not armed, than to risk death by not doing a thing at all.

I think that's the point being made. You don't know if its loaded, there was more than one gunman. This bloke shot one of them, whats to stop the other freaking out and shooting, not only the guard, but potentially the innocent people in the room.
If it had just been one gunman, and there were no other potential targets (or if he could reliably take the man out before he could use his own weapon) then he'd deserve a pat on the back. In this context however he's just a man with a gun and bad judgement.

If the shotguns had have been loaded he would have been risking other people's lives. If he'd done nothing, then the men would have gotten away with some money, unthreatened they would have had no reason to shoot anyone.

 

[AMMO Kid]

retards. who would even thing about saying, "oh, it seems we might have to arrest you for keeping the place from being robbed(giggling a little bit, then sticking his head up his own butt)"

 

[Instant K4rma]

How exactly could he have known the shotguns were empty? There is no way to tell whether or not a firearm is loaded, so he had to respond as if it were.

I carry too. I was a rent-a-cop too. I wouldn't be that irresponsible. If I was, I probably would have shot the two plain clothes cops that came into my work one night with guns out because someone had falsely called in a robbery.

He didn't open fire on two people just casually carrying a firearm, like in the situation you described. He opened fire on a man with a ski mask pointing a weapon in his face. There's a big difference. His gut instinct told him that his life was in jeopardy. When there is a threat in front of you, your first gut instinct is to remove that threat, which is what he did. There's not really much time to think about whether a shotgun spread would hit innocents or not when the gun is pointed at you.

He made a split second decision. Whether or not it was the right decision? Well, I believe I would have reacted in the same way. If that makes me irresponsible, so be it. When someone points a gun at me, I'm using mine if I have one. Self preservation.

My opinion, of course. I'm not trying to say that you are wrong, I see where you are coming from with what you are saying. Our gut decisions aren't always the responsible or correct decisions.

 

[xDarc]

Let me summarize for you TLNR types.

Appreciate the thread, but maybe do this at the end of your post next time? Seems like this only encouraged people to not read much into it.

I think that guard is a damned fool for taking on 2 guys with scatter guns, in the open, near a crowd and with poor marksmanship. I don't know how you do it in Nebraska, but here in the Detroit metro, this guy would have been a dead man and possibly gotten some other folks hurt, had those shotguns been loaded.

 

[xDarc]

If the shotguns had have been loaded he would have been risking other people's lives. If he'd done nothing, then the men would have gotten away with some money, unthreatened they would have had no reason to shoot anyone.

A winner is you!

 

[Viciousmf]

good for the guy who shot the robbers, finally somebody does something, typically people just stand idolie by while bad people do bad things, if more people were'nt pussies, and more like this guy the world would be a better place.

 

[Megas Rules]

wow! race shouldnt have anything to do with this. the fact is that if someone came at me with a weapon id bloody defend myself and make sure he was dead (firing the WHOLE clip into the body etc.) every other person would do the same.

 

[Macgyvercas]

The guy is a hero.

If a person walks into a store with a sawed off shotgun to rob it I wouldnt aim for the toes either. Race is completely beside the point. The guard was fined for carrying a concealed weapon which is only right I suppose if the law functions that way. In my opinion there is no such thing as an excessive amount of shots.
If some guy had entered my home/workplace with a sawed of shotgun I'd make sure he bit the dust instead of me (providing I had a firearm and opportunity to use it). Sympathy for robbers is pure madness.

Basically this. Sympathy for criminals is a terrible thing. They made the choice to invade the store with guns, if they happen to die because of it, it's their own dumb fault.

I'm kinda undecided on the fine. I'd have to agree that he should be fined because he was violating the conditions of his permit, but I'm against government regulation in almost all forms by priciple so I'd have to oppose the fine there, as he used the weapon responsibly.

Tell me about it. I think that if a person commits a crime, they should lose the legal right to sue if they get hurt while doing so. THEY WERE COMMITTING A F***ING CRIME!

As face a race accusation, does anyone really think that the shooter stopped and thought, "Hmmm, he's black, I think I'll shoot him four time"? No because that would have wasted time and he had to act instinctively.

 

[Wardnath]

good for the guy who shot the robbers, finally somebody does something, typically people just stand idolie by while bad people do bad things, if more people were'nt pussies, and more like this guy the world would be a better place.

It's not so much that as it is more the fact that if you actually did something about it you'd probably get screwed over by the courts yourself.

 

[xDarc]

My opinion, of course. I'm not trying to say that you are wrong, I see where you are coming from with what you are saying. Our gut decisions aren't always the responsible or correct decisions.

Had he taken the required, legitimate course for concealed carry, he might have thought twice about what he did. They do require teach about when it's not such a hot idea to just yank out your gun and open up.

I'm an NRA lifetime member, but I definitely do not want armed citizens relying on their gut instincts when it comes to these kinds of things.

 

[archvile93]

I would have shot him. I don't know that shotgun's not loaded. Besides, it says the robber fled the scene. I'm not going to chase him down just to see if he's alright. The guy is guilty of that misdemeanor though.

 

[Pyotr Romanov]

Hah, people are trying to play the "race" card. They were wearing ski masks! He probably couldn't even see their skin color!
Yes, that guy is a hero.

 

[Viciousmf]

while i do agree with your stament, our's is a terrible age, one in which we have to ask ourselves is this the right thing to do or the legal thing to do, our society is disgusting.

 

[Irridium]

If someone comes into the store with a shotgun pointed at people, then your damn right I think it was good of him to shoot them.

Who cares if they're black, they were attempting to rob the place and could have killed someone. I'm sure the guy didn't mean to kill them, but when your on the spot its either you or them in a split second decision, then you don't exactly have a chance to analyze the situation.

 

[Viciousmf]

good for the guy who shot the robbers, finally somebody does something, typically people just stand idolie by while bad people do bad things, if more people were'nt pussies, and more like this guy the world would be a better place.

It's not so much that as it is more the fact that if you actually did something about it you'd probably get screwed over by the courts yourself.

while I do agree with your statement, our society is disgusting, espiecally when people ask them selves is this the right thing to do or the legal thing to do.

 

[Viciousmf]

sory bout the repost folks