Man plots the murder of in game rival for 6 months! O_o

[Firia]

France is TWO YEARS for ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER!?

In the US that would land you 20 years at the least.

In all fairness, that's because in america, many prisons are privately organized and profit driven. That has had a way of influencing sentencing times through the years since the 70's. While I haven't had the same study with Frances' criminal justice system as I've had Americas, I doubt locking people up is as good business as it is in America.

Locking up prisoners is in no way profitable in America, these people must be fed and get a room for decades, that's not cheap, we have a problem with overcrowded prisons here, and we avoid locking people up whenever we possibly can.

We simply don't believe a slap on the wrist for premeditated attempted murder.

It is actually extremely profitable. There are towns that are based entirely on the economy that a prison brings. Lemme break it down for you in a short and sweet version. I learned all this in my time at school. You're getting the watered down version.

1 prisoner goes away to prison for crimes commited. The prison earns money granted by the government to house this prisoner, feed this prisoner, and guard this prisoner. The perk of doing this under private management over federal management, is that private management is cheaper to finance. So the government funds these institutions.

A criminal needs a place to be locked up. Prisons are built. Towns offer to let prisons be built near them because of the high paying jobs they offer. It's not often that with the same education to be a fry cook at Micky D's, you can be making 5 times as much an hour as a prison guard. So entire towns can hinge on the presence of jobs granted by prions. The government pays the private owners of these prisons per prisoner. So the more people locked away, the more money the prisons recieve. The more people locked away long term is good business. And it is a business. (My thesis was about how it's not criminal justice anymore.)

The part where you believe that prisons are not profitable is from the viewpoint of the tax payer. Yes, tax payers get the shaft. You pay a tax, and a percentage of that tax goes to criminal justice. That money goes into holding criminals. But because holding criminals is such good business, they aim to do more. So you pay more over time. They get more prisoners, you pay more. The share holders of private prisons, economies surrounding these prisons, and politicians* that take credit for setting up legal crackdowns on criminals all benifeit off of your tax payer money. But make no mistake, it is extremely good business.

*Politicians use the perception of being hard on crime as an edge to curry favor with the public. To appear "soft" on crime runs the risk of being losing the publics favor, and a whole host of political smeering from opponents. Some may have their hands in the prison pot of gold, but none of my studies focused on that.

 

[lacktheknack]

Well, if I hadn't wanted to play Counter Strike before...

 

[bam13302]

Ok, maybe a phycology test to play games might be a good idea.....
Seriously, its a f***ing game
*sigh*
people like this ruin stuff for the rest of us.

 

[Wicky_42]

See? The French even screw up perfect ambush opportunities. The only success they've had is parkour, the art of running away, and he apparently screwed that up too.

Made me lol XD Well played

So yeah, 1) 2 years for premeditated attempted murder is just WRONG, no two ways about it (I bet you could get longer for vidya gaem piracy, if you tried)
2) Nice one for backing up the side against the game-haters! Australia's going to take one look and ban anything rated above 12 XD

 

[Logic 0]

I think we should've locked him up in the crazy bin.

 

[Keava]

Ok, maybe a phycology test to play games might be a good idea.....
Seriously, its a f***ing game
*sigh*
people like this ruin stuff for the rest of us.

Again.
It has nothing to do with games. There was probability of him doing same to someone who just happened to bump into him in supermarket or spilled water on him. Its just mental illness and any tries to tie it to games should be met with a a big no, preferably in form of some psychiatric book into face kind of no.

 

[Echo136]

I think its obsurd that he wasnt charged with attempted murder and given a steeper sentence.

 

[ultrachicken]

He had to have had a hidden motive. It's not that uncommon to be knifed in counter-strike, so why did that one incident piss him off so much?

 

[Maverick Siragusa]

the guy has a mental health issue, that is a good time for him in prison but he needs help. im surprised he tracked the guy down and knifed him.

 

[Danpascooch]

France is TWO YEARS for ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER!?

In the US that would land you 20 years at the least.

In all fairness, that's because in america, many prisons are privately organized and profit driven. That has had a way of influencing sentencing times through the years since the 70's. While I haven't had the same study with Frances' criminal justice system as I've had Americas, I doubt locking people up is as good business as it is in America.

Locking up prisoners is in no way profitable in America, these people must be fed and get a room for decades, that's not cheap, we have a problem with overcrowded prisons here, and we avoid locking people up whenever we possibly can.

We simply don't believe a slap on the wrist for premeditated attempted murder.

It is actually extremely profitable. There are towns that are based entirely on the economy that a prison brings. Lemme break it down for you in a short and sweet version. I learned all this in my time at school. You're getting the watered down version.

1 prisoner goes away to prison for crimes commited. The prison earns money granted by the government to house this prisoner, feed this prisoner, and guard this prisoner. The perk of doing this under private management over federal management, is that private management is cheaper to finance. So the government funds these institutions.

A criminal needs a place to be locked up. Prisons are built. Towns offer to let prisons be built near them because of the high paying jobs they offer. It's not often that with the same education to be a fry cook at Micky D's, you can be making 5 times as much an hour as a prison guard. So entire towns can hinge on the presence of jobs granted by prions. The government pays the private owners of these prisons per prisoner. So the more people locked away, the more money the prisons recieve. The more people locked away long term is good business. And it is a business. (My thesis was about how it's not criminal justice anymore.)

The part where you believe that prisons are not profitable is from the viewpoint of the tax payer. Yes, tax payers get the shaft. You pay a tax, and a percentage of that tax goes to criminal justice. That money goes into holding criminals. But because holding criminals is such good business, they aim to do more. So you pay more over time. They get more prisoners, you pay more. The share holders of private prisons, economies surrounding these prisons, and politicians* that take credit for setting up legal crackdowns on criminals all benifeit off of your tax payer money. But make no mistake, it is extremely good business.

*Politicians use the perception of being hard on crime as an edge to curry favor with the public. To appear "soft" on crime runs the risk of being losing the publics favor, and a whole host of political smeering from opponents. Some may have their hands in the prison pot of gold, but none of my studies focused on that.

Ah, but here is the problem with that theory.

The government is the one that sets the criminal charges and their respective sentences, NOT the prisons. The government loses money when someone is locked up, so it would make no sense for them to give high sentences for money.

Any big facility gives an economic growth, prisons aren't special in that regard.

Politicians use the perception of being hard on crime as an edge to curry favor with the public.

Exactly my point ^ in America people support harsher penalties, we don't believe in a two year penalty for attempted murder, and I'm glad, because that's a slap in the wrist for someone who will probably attempt to kill again. My argument is that America supports harsh penalties for criminals, yours is that it's about money, and then you say that the public wants harsh penalties and will more likely vote for politicians who give harsh penalties? The same public that you just described as getting "shafted" by prison costs? That makes no sense, it's obviously a principle thing, not a money thing, because the people making the decisions about how long to imprison someone are the same people who are shouldering the costs (citizens and government)

 

[RamirezDoEverything]

I think he should be locked up a tad longer than to years.

GRAMMAR POLICE, two, not to.

But I agree, 2 years seems a little bit short of a sentence for attempted murder.
Ive heard of nerd rage.. but god damn

 

[bobknowsall]

See? The French even screw up perfect ambush opportunities. The only success they've had is parkour, the art of running away, and he apparently screwed that up too.

And you're from... Where?

OT: Oh man, this is both depressing and kind of funny. It's horrible that Mikhael got stabbed, but you just gape in awe at how single-minded this guy was.

If you're playing a fighting game against someone and they take your controller to make you lose, you're entitled to give them a tap on the shoulder. Losing does not allow you to knife people, however.

 

[AWAR]

An hero to be sure.

 

[interspark]

"how long his sentance should be?" its terrifying to think that one day that nut job will be loose again! also he's provoking all those stupid "games are bad" drama queens, oooh no we should destroy them all before it happens again! does anyone know how he actually managed to track this guy down in the first place?

 

[interspark]

An hero to be sure.

please tell me you are NOT talking about the psyco freak are you?

 

[Eri]

locked him up for two years

For attempted murder? He would have had his murder had he not slightly missed, so if anything, it's more like failed murder. Two years is a joke.

 

[Fraught]

EDIT: we dont know all details though... they might have known eachother, the victim made equal threats and so on. i feel something missing in this article, cause 2 years is nothing for such an assault

Dude, read through the article first. He plotted the murder for 6 months, during which he tried to find the location of where that Counter-Strike player lived.

 

[AWAR]

An hero to be sure.

please tell me you are NOT talking about the psyco freak are you?

Of course I do he will remain in history as "An hero"

 

[Kurokami]

So i just found this little gem of juicy news.

Spoiler: Click to read about the saddest online player on Earth!

A Counter-Strike player in France has spent six months plotting a revenge attack against a man who beat him in an in-game knife fight. His eventual revenge was not in-game.

20 year-old Julien Barreaux, from Cambrai, had his Counter-Strike character "knifed" in a game late last year against another man, known only as "Mikhael". Enraged at this blight against his talents, Barreaux spent six months tracking him down in the real world.

When he eventually found the victim, Barreaux knocked on the guy's front door, then "plunged a kitchen knife into his chest" when Mikhael opened it to greet him. He missed his heart by an inch.

A local police officer told the courts "Barreaux was arrested within the hour and told us he had wanted to see his rival wiped out for killing off his character."

The judge, who locked him up for two years on a charge of causing grievous bodily harm, says of Barreaux, "You are a menace to society. I am frankly terrified of the disproportionate reaction you could have if someone looked at you the wrong way in the street."

It's amazing what people are capable of but this is just ridiculous.

So what do my fellow escapists think about this nutcase and about how long the sentence is.

Source: Kotaku [http://kotaku.com/5550609/man-spends-six-months-plotting-murder-of-counter+strike-rival?skyline=true&s=i]

to think, had he waited for a few moments he'd have seen his character getting 'revived'.

His response is kind of crazy, mentioning killing his 'character', I don't even consider them characters in Counter Strike, and was this the first time he had died in the game? I'd really like to know more about these people, whether they're normal gamers until they snap or is it some fucked up reaction to first-time-gaming?