Man plots the murder of in game rival for 6 months! O_o

[Shycte]

The question is....

Was he playing Source or 1.6?...

 

[interspark]

An hero to be sure.

please tell me you are NOT talking about the psyco freak are you?

Of course I do he will remain in history as "An hero"

i think the term "pathetic freak / worst loser in the history of the planet who desperatley needs to get a job and get laid" is more appropriate, and you DO know its meant to be "A hero" right?

 

[interspark]

I'd really like to know more about these people, whether they're normal gamers until they snap or is it some fucked up reaction to first-time-gaming?

i cant help but wonder what kind of irresponcible fool let this freak have such a violent sounding game!

 

[Kurokami]

I'd really like to know more about these people, whether they're normal gamers until they snap or is it some fucked up reaction to first-time-gaming?

i cant help but wonder what kind of irresponcible fool let this freak have such a violent sounding game!

This game isn't at all violent to be honest, I played it when I was 13 and simply thought nothing of the 'knifing' other than 2 stabs or 1 back stab kill. It at no point felt personal at all, that's why its so surprising for me.

 

[SliverBlade]

Wow. Didn't another guy recently hunt someone else down over CS?

 

[TheStickman]

I think he should be locked up a tad longer than to years.

GRAMMAR POLICE, two, not to.

But I agree, 2 years seems a little bit short of a sentence for attempted murder.
Ive heard of nerd rage.. but god damn

Weird, I usually notice stuff like that.

 

[cameron112497]

Games are never the problem. No common sense is. This world would be 3x better if everyone had common sense. hmmmmmmm should i kill this guy for killing me in a game or get over it and get on with my life? I know I'll ...

 

[bam13302]

Ok, maybe a phycology test to play games might be a good idea.....
Seriously, its a f***ing game
*sigh*
people like this ruin stuff for the rest of us.

Again.
It has nothing to do with games. There was probability of him doing same to someone who just happened to bump into him in supermarket or spilled water on him. Its just mental illness and any tries to tie it to games should be met with a a big no, preferably in form of some psychiatric book into face kind of no.

Reminds me of an old quote i heard a while ago
100% of murders are done by people that breath oxygen.

 

[Firia]

France is TWO YEARS for ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER!?

In the US that would land you 20 years at the least.

In all fairness, that's because in america, many prisons are privately organized and profit driven. That has had a way of influencing sentencing times through the years since the 70's. While I haven't had the same study with Frances' criminal justice system as I've had Americas, I doubt locking people up is as good business as it is in America.

Locking up prisoners is in no way profitable in America, these people must be fed and get a room for decades, that's not cheap, we have a problem with overcrowded prisons here, and we avoid locking people up whenever we possibly can.

We simply don't believe a slap on the wrist for premeditated attempted murder.

It is actually extremely profitable. There are towns that are based entirely on the economy that a prison brings. Lemme break it down for you in a short and sweet version. I learned all this in my time at school. You're getting the watered down version.

1 prisoner goes away to prison for crimes commited. The prison earns money granted by the government to house this prisoner, feed this prisoner, and guard this prisoner. The perk of doing this under private management over federal management, is that private management is cheaper to finance. So the government funds these institutions.

A criminal needs a place to be locked up. Prisons are built. Towns offer to let prisons be built near them because of the high paying jobs they offer. It's not often that with the same education to be a fry cook at Micky D's, you can be making 5 times as much an hour as a prison guard. So entire towns can hinge on the presence of jobs granted by prions. The government pays the private owners of these prisons per prisoner. So the more people locked away, the more money the prisons recieve. The more people locked away long term is good business. And it is a business. (My thesis was about how it's not criminal justice anymore.)

The part where you believe that prisons are not profitable is from the viewpoint of the tax payer. Yes, tax payers get the shaft. You pay a tax, and a percentage of that tax goes to criminal justice. That money goes into holding criminals. But because holding criminals is such good business, they aim to do more. So you pay more over time. They get more prisoners, you pay more. The share holders of private prisons, economies surrounding these prisons, and politicians* that take credit for setting up legal crackdowns on criminals all benifeit off of your tax payer money. But make no mistake, it is extremely good business.

*Politicians use the perception of being hard on crime as an edge to curry favor with the public. To appear "soft" on crime runs the risk of being losing the publics favor, and a whole host of political smeering from opponents. Some may have their hands in the prison pot of gold, but none of my studies focused on that.

Ah, but here is the problem with that theory.

The government is the one that sets the criminal charges and their respective sentences, NOT the prisons. The government loses money when someone is locked up, so it would make no sense for them to give high sentences for money.

It's no theory. If you want to learn more, I can recomend a small stack of books to read on the topic, like I have. There was a source I just tried to find, about a judge locking up every teenager sent before him because of bribes from prison officials needing to fill their prisons, but instead I found another example. [http://isiria.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/judges-paid-by-prison-industry-sent-children-to-jail-for-non-criminal-offences-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/]

While the prison system doesn't set the bar for how long a person is locked up, they influence the people that do. Every time you hear a politician cry out to the masses during voting season about harsher penalties for crimes, you may want to look at who's backing these people. While yes, gaining votes through perception is one thing, but helping to fund their campain to do it is a whole 'nother game.

I want you to know that what I'm talking about is not a theory. It's a true fact that in america, people are being locked away for profit. It's a whole new (except that it's not new) take on human trade. If you want to read more, just say the word and I'll go unpack my books, and give you the list you can buy through amazon.

 

[WorldCritic]

Well now it's a good thing I don't play Counter-Strike. Seriously my computer doesn't support it and for a long time it pissed me off. It doesn't now.

 

[Danpascooch]

France is TWO YEARS for ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER!?

In the US that would land you 20 years at the least.

In all fairness, that's because in america, many prisons are privately organized and profit driven. That has had a way of influencing sentencing times through the years since the 70's. While I haven't had the same study with Frances' criminal justice system as I've had Americas, I doubt locking people up is as good business as it is in America.

Locking up prisoners is in no way profitable in America, these people must be fed and get a room for decades, that's not cheap, we have a problem with overcrowded prisons here, and we avoid locking people up whenever we possibly can.

We simply don't believe a slap on the wrist for premeditated attempted murder.

It is actually extremely profitable. There are towns that are based entirely on the economy that a prison brings. Lemme break it down for you in a short and sweet version. I learned all this in my time at school. You're getting the watered down version.

1 prisoner goes away to prison for crimes commited. The prison earns money granted by the government to house this prisoner, feed this prisoner, and guard this prisoner. The perk of doing this under private management over federal management, is that private management is cheaper to finance. So the government funds these institutions.

A criminal needs a place to be locked up. Prisons are built. Towns offer to let prisons be built near them because of the high paying jobs they offer. It's not often that with the same education to be a fry cook at Micky D's, you can be making 5 times as much an hour as a prison guard. So entire towns can hinge on the presence of jobs granted by prions. The government pays the private owners of these prisons per prisoner. So the more people locked away, the more money the prisons recieve. The more people locked away long term is good business. And it is a business. (My thesis was about how it's not criminal justice anymore.)

The part where you believe that prisons are not profitable is from the viewpoint of the tax payer. Yes, tax payers get the shaft. You pay a tax, and a percentage of that tax goes to criminal justice. That money goes into holding criminals. But because holding criminals is such good business, they aim to do more. So you pay more over time. They get more prisoners, you pay more. The share holders of private prisons, economies surrounding these prisons, and politicians* that take credit for setting up legal crackdowns on criminals all benifeit off of your tax payer money. But make no mistake, it is extremely good business.

*Politicians use the perception of being hard on crime as an edge to curry favor with the public. To appear "soft" on crime runs the risk of being losing the publics favor, and a whole host of political smeering from opponents. Some may have their hands in the prison pot of gold, but none of my studies focused on that.

Ah, but here is the problem with that theory.

The government is the one that sets the criminal charges and their respective sentences, NOT the prisons. The government loses money when someone is locked up, so it would make no sense for them to give high sentences for money.

It's no theory. If you want to learn more, I can recomend a small stack of books to read on the topic, like I have. There was a source I just tried to find, about a judge locking up every teenager sent before him because of bribes from prison officials needing to fill their prisons, but instead I found another example. [http://isiria.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/judges-paid-by-prison-industry-sent-children-to-jail-for-non-criminal-offences-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/]

While the prison system doesn't set the bar for how long a person is locked up, they influence the people that do. Every time you hear a politician cry out to the masses during voting season about harsher penalties for crimes, you may want to look at who's backing these people. While yes, gaining votes through perception is one thing, but helping to fund their campain to do it is a whole 'nother game.

I want you to know that what I'm talking about is not a theory. It's a true fact that in america, people are being locked away for profit. It's a whole new (except that it's not new) take on human trade. If you want to read more, just say the word and I'll go unpack my books, and give you the list you can buy through amazon.

Judges paid by prison industry sent children to jail for non-criminal offences: the tip of the iceberg

The US and British governments have created a private prison industry which preys on human lives.

Yeah, this doesn't sound biased or extremist in any way whatsoever.....

Judges sending children to jail for not breaking the law? Come on, even if you are wrong, you should at LEAST be able to come up with some better false sources than this

Evolution is a theory, but this opinion of yours is fact. Got it.

Any "legitimate" news site that comes with a picture like this in the article:

Is not exactly looking at the situation from a calm impartial viewpoint.

Oh look, here's another headline from that site:

Was Dr. David Kelly a target of Dick Cheney?s ?Executive Assassination Ring??

Looking more legitimate all the time.

 

[Ad_Astra]

That's truly awful. The attacker sounds like he likely has some sort of psychological problem. I hope they look into that. Also, two years seems like an awfully short sentence for pre-meditated attempted murder.

I don't mean this to sound callous, but what is it with CS and knifings lately?

First those boys stabbing the guy who was cheating on it (the case in China), and now this.

Also, when the media gets ahold of these types of stories, they continually neglect the fact that millions of people play violent videogames and DON'T attack/kill/maim people.

 

[Verex]

Wow. I saw this on Digg and was surprised at the depth someone is attached to their online profile. We're probably all safer now if we quit playing COD and start playing Neopets again.

 

[Sybban]

Suprised this doesn't happen more often. I'm sure there is much more of a back story to this. While I don't condone this kid's actions I will say this should serve as a wake up call to the pathetic jerk offs who go in games yelling out racial slurs and profanity for the fun of it. One day you may piss off the wrong person. If you wouldn't say it someone's face, don't say it in a mic.

On the same token I don't necesarily disagree with the motive. For example, I would gladly stab anyone who as ever circulated a virus on the internet. To cause so much grief to so many people because of one sad person is ridiculous. Let me know when and where and I'll be happy to rid the earth of the person.

 

[Diligent]

In the voice of Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride:
Hello. My name is Julien Barreaux. You killed my character. Prepare to die.

Seriously though, has he never ever been killed in counterstrike? Because I was killed all the time. This story is bizarre, and the guy is clearly messed up.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

Great, now I'm worried about that guy who told me he was going to kill me over a bad loss in Halo 3 a couple days ago.

Still, it's no wonder he only got two years. Clearly something isn't right in his head.

 

[spectrenihlus]

Sweet justice

err i mean that is awful.

Seriously though that is insane and the guy should be sent to an asylum with nice padded walls.

 

[Firia]

France is TWO YEARS for ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER!?

In the US that would land you 20 years at the least.

In all fairness, that's because in america, many prisons are privately organized and profit driven. That has had a way of influencing sentencing times through the years since the 70's. While I haven't had the same study with Frances' criminal justice system as I've had Americas, I doubt locking people up is as good business as it is in America.

Locking up prisoners is in no way profitable in America, these people must be fed and get a room for decades, that's not cheap, we have a problem with overcrowded prisons here, and we avoid locking people up whenever we possibly can.

We simply don't believe a slap on the wrist for premeditated attempted murder.

It is actually extremely profitable. There are towns that are based entirely on the economy that a prison brings. Lemme break it down for you in a short and sweet version. I learned all this in my time at school. You're getting the watered down version.

1 prisoner goes away to prison for crimes commited. The prison earns money granted by the government to house this prisoner, feed this prisoner, and guard this prisoner. The perk of doing this under private management over federal management, is that private management is cheaper to finance. So the government funds these institutions.

A criminal needs a place to be locked up. Prisons are built. Towns offer to let prisons be built near them because of the high paying jobs they offer. It's not often that with the same education to be a fry cook at Micky D's, you can be making 5 times as much an hour as a prison guard. So entire towns can hinge on the presence of jobs granted by prions. The government pays the private owners of these prisons per prisoner. So the more people locked away, the more money the prisons recieve. The more people locked away long term is good business. And it is a business. (My thesis was about how it's not criminal justice anymore.)

The part where you believe that prisons are not profitable is from the viewpoint of the tax payer. Yes, tax payers get the shaft. You pay a tax, and a percentage of that tax goes to criminal justice. That money goes into holding criminals. But because holding criminals is such good business, they aim to do more. So you pay more over time. They get more prisoners, you pay more. The share holders of private prisons, economies surrounding these prisons, and politicians* that take credit for setting up legal crackdowns on criminals all benifeit off of your tax payer money. But make no mistake, it is extremely good business.

*Politicians use the perception of being hard on crime as an edge to curry favor with the public. To appear "soft" on crime runs the risk of being losing the publics favor, and a whole host of political smeering from opponents. Some may have their hands in the prison pot of gold, but none of my studies focused on that.

Ah, but here is the problem with that theory.

The government is the one that sets the criminal charges and their respective sentences, NOT the prisons. The government loses money when someone is locked up, so it would make no sense for them to give high sentences for money.

It's no theory. If you want to learn more, I can recomend a small stack of books to read on the topic, like I have. There was a source I just tried to find, about a judge locking up every teenager sent before him because of bribes from prison officials needing to fill their prisons, but instead I found another example. [http://isiria.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/judges-paid-by-prison-industry-sent-children-to-jail-for-non-criminal-offences-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/]

While the prison system doesn't set the bar for how long a person is locked up, they influence the people that do. Every time you hear a politician cry out to the masses during voting season about harsher penalties for crimes, you may want to look at who's backing these people. While yes, gaining votes through perception is one thing, but helping to fund their campain to do it is a whole 'nother game.

I want you to know that what I'm talking about is not a theory. It's a true fact that in america, people are being locked away for profit. It's a whole new (except that it's not new) take on human trade. If you want to read more, just say the word and I'll go unpack my books, and give you the list you can buy through amazon.

Judges paid by prison industry sent children to jail for non-criminal offences: the tip of the iceberg

The US and British governments have created a private prison industry which preys on human lives.

Yeah, this doesn't sound biased or extremist in any way whatsoever.....

Judges sending children to jail for not breaking the law? Come on, even if you are wrong, you should at LEAST be able to come up with some better false sources than this

Evolution is a theory, but this opinion of yours is fact. Got it.

Any "legitimate" news site that comes with a picture like this in the article:

Is not exactly looking at the situation from a calm impartial viewpoint.

Oh look, here's another headline from that site:

Was Dr. David Kelly a target of Dick Cheney?s ?Executive Assassination Ring??

Looking more legitimate all the time.

You don't like that source? FINE. I encourage you to RESEARCH as I have before decrying my findings as opinion. That's how it works, by the way. You don't have a leg to stand on until you're educated in the manner I have educated myself. Once you take in that education, you can form a thesis yourself. I'd love to read it. Until then, you should check the sources listed by the lady you didn't like. Rather than, "sounds biased to me," you should research her notes listed at the bottom of the article, and see where she got her notes from. OR, read my research books. I'll even give you amazon links.

Total Confinement by Lorna A. Rhodes [http://www.amazon.com/Total-Confinement-Security-California-Anthropology/dp/0520240766/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275288058&sr=1-1]

Worse than Slavery, by David M. Oshinsky [http://www.amazon.com/Worse-than-Slavery-Parchman-Justice/dp/0684830957/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275288179&sr=1-1] is an example of classic example of prisoners turned business opportunities.

If you want more books, lemme know. Books take a while to read, and I had an incentive to read them (earning my Bachelors degree), whereas you're only engaged in an internet debate. Internet articles are not good research, but the volume of what they have to say should be an indication that something on what I'm saying is true.

Here's some websites.

- Prisons are good business [http://believeorcredo.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/private-prison-damn-good-business/]

- Wiki has something to say about the prison industrial complex. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison-industrial_complex] There's a whole HOST of external links there.

- It's one thing for judges to carry out a sentence. It's another for a judge to carry out a sentence based on bribes to sentence reguardless of guilty or innocent. [http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/01/06/counting-crows-a-sentence-for-the-birds/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wsj%2Flaw%2Ffeed+%28WSJ.com%3A+Law+Blog%29] Sentences longer than normal. PLENTY of links provided to follow that scandal.

- How a prison can shape the local economy of towns [http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/03/business/la-fi-0503-prisons-20100503] by the money they bring in.


A lecture about the prison industrial complex (which is connected how prisons are a business).

Spoiler

Angela Davis discusses Prison Industrial Complex

(remember, my point is that prisons are a business. I can't speak to the rest, though if you will do the research as I have, you will find that a lot of what she has to say has value.)


And that's it. If you're not willing to educate yourself on the topic based on the wealth of resources I have given you, and the sources others have listed, then we have nothing more to discuss, as it will be a matter of educated subject matter (me) verses opinion and intuition (you).

 

[Danpascooch]

France is TWO YEARS for ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER!?

In the US that would land you 20 years at the least.

In all fairness, that's because in america, many prisons are privately organized and profit driven. That has had a way of influencing sentencing times through the years since the 70's. While I haven't had the same study with Frances' criminal justice system as I've had Americas, I doubt locking people up is as good business as it is in America.

Locking up prisoners is in no way profitable in America, these people must be fed and get a room for decades, that's not cheap, we have a problem with overcrowded prisons here, and we avoid locking people up whenever we possibly can.

We simply don't believe a slap on the wrist for premeditated attempted murder.

It is actually extremely profitable. There are towns that are based entirely on the economy that a prison brings. Lemme break it down for you in a short and sweet version. I learned all this in my time at school. You're getting the watered down version.

1 prisoner goes away to prison for crimes commited. The prison earns money granted by the government to house this prisoner, feed this prisoner, and guard this prisoner. The perk of doing this under private management over federal management, is that private management is cheaper to finance. So the government funds these institutions.

A criminal needs a place to be locked up. Prisons are built. Towns offer to let prisons be built near them because of the high paying jobs they offer. It's not often that with the same education to be a fry cook at Micky D's, you can be making 5 times as much an hour as a prison guard. So entire towns can hinge on the presence of jobs granted by prions. The government pays the private owners of these prisons per prisoner. So the more people locked away, the more money the prisons recieve. The more people locked away long term is good business. And it is a business. (My thesis was about how it's not criminal justice anymore.)

The part where you believe that prisons are not profitable is from the viewpoint of the tax payer. Yes, tax payers get the shaft. You pay a tax, and a percentage of that tax goes to criminal justice. That money goes into holding criminals. But because holding criminals is such good business, they aim to do more. So you pay more over time. They get more prisoners, you pay more. The share holders of private prisons, economies surrounding these prisons, and politicians* that take credit for setting up legal crackdowns on criminals all benifeit off of your tax payer money. But make no mistake, it is extremely good business.

*Politicians use the perception of being hard on crime as an edge to curry favor with the public. To appear "soft" on crime runs the risk of being losing the publics favor, and a whole host of political smeering from opponents. Some may have their hands in the prison pot of gold, but none of my studies focused on that.

Ah, but here is the problem with that theory.

The government is the one that sets the criminal charges and their respective sentences, NOT the prisons. The government loses money when someone is locked up, so it would make no sense for them to give high sentences for money.

It's no theory. If you want to learn more, I can recomend a small stack of books to read on the topic, like I have. There was a source I just tried to find, about a judge locking up every teenager sent before him because of bribes from prison officials needing to fill their prisons, but instead I found another example. [http://isiria.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/judges-paid-by-prison-industry-sent-children-to-jail-for-non-criminal-offences-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/]

While the prison system doesn't set the bar for how long a person is locked up, they influence the people that do. Every time you hear a politician cry out to the masses during voting season about harsher penalties for crimes, you may want to look at who's backing these people. While yes, gaining votes through perception is one thing, but helping to fund their campain to do it is a whole 'nother game.

I want you to know that what I'm talking about is not a theory. It's a true fact that in america, people are being locked away for profit. It's a whole new (except that it's not new) take on human trade. If you want to read more, just say the word and I'll go unpack my books, and give you the list you can buy through amazon.

Judges paid by prison industry sent children to jail for non-criminal offences: the tip of the iceberg

The US and British governments have created a private prison industry which preys on human lives.

Yeah, this doesn't sound biased or extremist in any way whatsoever.....

Judges sending children to jail for not breaking the law? Come on, even if you are wrong, you should at LEAST be able to come up with some better false sources than this

Evolution is a theory, but this opinion of yours is fact. Got it.

Any "legitimate" news site that comes with a picture like this in the article:

Is not exactly looking at the situation from a calm impartial viewpoint.

Oh look, here's another headline from that site:

Was Dr. David Kelly a target of Dick Cheney?s ?Executive Assassination Ring??

Looking more legitimate all the time.

You don't like that source? FINE. I encourage you to RESEARCH as I have before decrying my findings as opinion. That's how it works, by the way. You don't have a leg to stand on until you're educated in the manner I have educated myself. Once you take in that education, you can form a thesis yourself. I'd love to read it. Until then, you should check the sources listed by the lady you didn't like. Rather than, "sounds biased to me," you should research her notes listed at the bottom of the article, and see where she got her notes from. OR, read my research books. I'll even give you amazon links.

Total Confinement by Lorna A. Rhodes [http://www.amazon.com/Total-Confinement-Security-California-Anthropology/dp/0520240766/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275288058&sr=1-1]

Worse than Slavery, by David M. Oshinsky [http://www.amazon.com/Worse-than-Slavery-Parchman-Justice/dp/0684830957/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275288179&sr=1-1] is an example of classic example of prisoners turned business opportunities.

If you want more books, lemme know. Books take a while to read, and I had an incentive to read them (earning my Bachelors degree), whereas you're only engaged in an internet debate. Internet articles are not good research, but the volume of what they have to say should be an indication that something on what I'm saying is true.

Here's some websites.

- Prisons are good business [http://believeorcredo.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/private-prison-damn-good-business/]

- Wiki has something to say about the prison industrial complex. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison-industrial_complex] There's a whole HOST of external links there.

- It's one thing for judges to carry out a sentence. It's another for a judge to carry out a sentence based on bribes to sentence reguardless of guilty or innocent. [http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/01/06/counting-crows-a-sentence-for-the-birds/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wsj%2Flaw%2Ffeed+%28WSJ.com%3A+Law+Blog%29] Sentences longer than normal. PLENTY of links provided to follow that scandal.

- How a prison can shape the local economy of towns [http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/03/business/la-fi-0503-prisons-20100503] by the money they bring in.


A lecture about the prison industrial complex (which is connected how prisons are a business).

Spoiler

Angela Davis discusses Prison Industrial Complex

(remember, my point is that prisons are a business. I can't speak to the rest, though if you will do the research as I have, you will find that a lot of what she has to say has value.)


And that's it. If you're not willing to educate yourself on the topic based on the wealth of resources I have given you, and the sources others have listed, then we have nothing more to discuss, as it will be a matter of educated subject matter (me) verses opinion and intuition (you).

The problem is, you're still talking about how the prisons benefit, the only time you mention a judge is to mention that they are occasionally bribed to give longer than normal sentences. You don't mention why the legislature makes that initial sentence length for that crime, which is what I'm talking about.

There are always isolated patches of corruption in every government, but the sentences determined by legislature for each crime are because the voters value fair punishment for horrible crimes, nobody making that legislation benefits from long sentences.