Man, you guys are GENIUSES!
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I've had lots of those moments but I honestly can't remember a ton of them. However I've been playing a lot of Deus Ex: Human Revolution and there is a mission is Hengsha China in which the player must recover an augmentation for a bartender and is rewarded with an achievement/trophy if it's completed in a certain way. Some of you may know what I'm talking about and for those of you who don't I'll explain it below.
Of course that's not necessarily the case but if it is then damn, that's a pretty nice touch Eidos.
The mission is given to you by a bartender who's part of the local Triad. It involves a woman whom said Triads set up with a special augmentation that allows it's user to manipulate conversations in order to get what they want, you can even get this augmentation yourself. This woman owes the Triads money and that's why they want to find her. When you meet her you are given three options on how to go about completing the mission. You can convince the woman to pay the Triads, you can forcefully take the augmentation away from her, or you can take pity on her and offer to pay her debts to the Triads. Choosing the third option nets you an achievement/trophy called "Guardian Angel", which reads, "You paid poor Jaya's debt in full. How very... humane... of you." Jaya is the aforementioned woman from the mission. The gist, or at least I what I believe the gist is that the game is trying to tell you that Jaya used her augmentation on you to get you to pay her debts to the Triads and that said harebrained scheme might have actually worked with you being none the wiser.
Of course that's not necessarily the case but if it is then damn, that's a pretty nice touch Eidos.
The REAL question we should be asking ourselves is why the fuck someone thought they had to make the formula for "did you catch it?" so needlessly complex.canadamus_prime said:I can't believe someone actually went to all the trouble to work all that out. ...assuming that someone isn't the gameplay programmer.Aerosteam 1908 said:Pokemon.
This is how a Poke Ball works...
I don't know enough about programming gameplay to really determine whether or not that is "needlessly complex." Certainly it seems overly complex, but if they'd gone with anything simpler, Pokemon probably wouldn't be nearly as successful as it is.Syzygy23 said:The REAL question we should be asking ourselves is why the fuck someone thought they had to make the formula for "did you catch it?" so needlessly complex.canadamus_prime said:I can't believe someone actually went to all the trouble to work all that out. ...assuming that someone isn't the gameplay programmer.Aerosteam 1908 said:Pokemon.
This is how a Poke Ball works...
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The sniper scene is cod 4, it was so perfectly planned out, it was probably one of the most perfect sneaking scenes ever, I mean sure it was scripted to hell but it felt very real, and its the first time I have ever seen a scene done like that, with more scripted then just explosions or enemy pathing or something like that.
heh i remember seeing this a few months back...Aerosteam 1908 said:Pokemon.
This is how a Poke Ball works...
growing up i always thought that pressing "b" at the right moment is what gave you better luck...
OT: honestly i can't think of anything right off the top of my head...not to say their aren't any out there on games I have played, just can't seem to have that "WOW" moment come to mind. not to mention if i mentioned something, it'd probably be scoffed/blown apart by an elitist old fart on here.
OH! I was pretty impressed with FF dissidia on the psp, I couldn't believe how fluid/nice the controls were with only one joystick and it being a 3D non side scrolling fighter, not to mention all the abilities/rpg elements it had to it. I really hope used psp's drop in price this summer, I'll have to pick one up + the first and second dissidia's
Wow, that's complex. I'll think I'll stick with the tried and true method: *throw pokeball*, *smash b button*Aerosteam 1908 said:Pokemon.
This is how a Poke Ball works...
I remember that feeling when I first played Sacrifice. That's a brilliant game. Also when I played X-Com: Terror from the Deep (That was the first I played in the series.)
A lot of flash games do that for me. Shift is the big one I always think of. Awesome little platformer that I loved the idea behind.
And Portal, because I don't remember them being used all the much before Portal was made.
Oh, and on the boardgame front, whoever came up with hidden loyalty mechanics. You are a fucking genius and thank you for a new genre that I love.
And Portal, because I don't remember them being used all the much before Portal was made.
Oh, and on the boardgame front, whoever came up with hidden loyalty mechanics. You are a fucking genius and thank you for a new genre that I love.
Paper Mario; Goombella gives you a different info blurb on every single NPC in the entire game. Also you technically need to play the game seven times to get the full experience, each partner has their own set of dialogue for each cutscene. More thorough than genius but still impressive.
Cave Story.
The entire game. The story, mechanics, and design - all made by Pixel on his own. Enough said.
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The entire game. The story, mechanics, and design - all made by Pixel on his own. Enough said.
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THIS. THIS SO HARD.hermes200 said:
However, I'm definitely going to add Second Sight's plot twist.
You spend the entire game as a barely-sane medical experiment with inexplicable psychic powers, who spends about half of the game in flashbacks. However, some of the sequences just don't quite add up, and you aren't sure why.
It turns out that your flashbacks are present-day reality, and the part of the game you thought was the present is actually seeing into the future. It explains the disturbing game over sequences and why present day occurrences kept changing as you changed things in the "flashbacks". It's actually really quite obvious, but I (and the majority of other players) never guessed it.
I paused the game at the revelation and spent three minutes just going "WHOOOOOAA" like a stoner.
Trust me when I say that I mean this in the nicest way possible: That's not right.ShotgunZombie said:
the CASIE mod allows the user to manipulate pheromones in such a way that the target becomes more succeptible to what you say. Jensen was the one who suggested that he pay the debt in the first place, therefore it ha nothing to do with what Jaya said. Even if that wasn't the case, it is shown several times throughout the game that people with a lot of experience with Augs can tell when somebody activates their CASIE mod, so it stands to reason that Jensen would notice.
tl:dr, You're wrong, no offence.
Too many examples to list, but I'll put down the real stand-outs:
-The entire Mario world
-LittleBigPlanet
-de Blob
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-The entire Mario world
-LittleBigPlanet
-de Blob
-3D Dot Game Heroes
Seriously. This was well and truly amazing the first time I saw it. Can't say much more, lest I spoil it for anyone who hasn't had the pleasure of playing, but if you've been following the story at all, the final stage is a masterstroke.hermes200 said:
Street Fighter III is an incredible example of brilliance from simplicity. The parry system is the most well-designed, perfectly-realized mechanic in the history of the genre.
Slightly off-topic, but I felt compelled to mention that gaming has a fairly storied history of accidental genius. The "cancelling" system of fighting games, as many of you probably know, was originally a glitch in Street Fighter II, but it worked so well as a mechanic that it basically redefined the genre. Similarly, Final Fantasy 3/6 and Super Metroid are tied, in my opinion, for the title of "accidentally the best game of all time." FF3/6 earned this distinction for being such a disgusting mass of bugs, glitches, and unintended consequences that allow the game to be played and experienced in a multitude of ways. You haven't truly played FF3/6 until you've beaten it without learning magic or gaining levels.
Super Metroid, on the other hand, probably introduced "sequence breaking" into the gaming parlance. So extreme is Samus' degree of mobility (again, resulting from a combination of well-designed mechanics like the Morph Ball, shinespark, and bomb- and wall-jumping, and a host of glitches like the instant stop, short charge, and speedball and mockball), that she is able to pretty much go anywhere she wants, whenever she wants. Bosses and mini-bosses can be beaten in any order, and a staggering number of items can still be acquired without ever upgrading her suit.
So, I guess what I'm trying to say with that little digression is that sometimes it's not (just) the designers who elevate a game to the level of "genius"--sometimes it's the players.
I'm surprised that no one's mentioned this yet, but the Andrew Ryan scene from Bioshock was simply Brilliant in every sense of the word, even though it's not technically gameplay.
Seriously, after Bioshock had earned its place on my top games of all time up to that point in the game with it's incredibly thoughtful well-written and haunting Narrative on the themes of Rand up to that point, it had the nerve too suddenly turn around and pull one of the greatest narratives on gaming in general out of its ass. I get it , Bioshock, you're better then me, stop rubbing it in.
Seriously, after Bioshock had earned its place on my top games of all time up to that point in the game with it's incredibly thoughtful well-written and haunting Narrative on the themes of Rand up to that point, it had the nerve too suddenly turn around and pull one of the greatest narratives on gaming in general out of its ass. I get it , Bioshock, you're better then me, stop rubbing it in.