Mandatory Physical Education

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aei_haruko

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katsumoto03 said:
Hong Meiling said:
There should be a mandatory TWO credits in PE. Hell, you should do some PE at home even!

A strong body leads to a strong mind!
Are you religious? If you are you must support the idea of mandatory prayer too.

I honestly think that no classes should be mandatory, especially one as trivial as PE.
obeasity problem, I don't think he said anything about prayer, he simply said that a strong body ( hich has discipline) leads to a strong/ more focoused mind. I disagree on the mandatory, we have awful math and science scores, i demand mandatory science classes, because when half the kids don't know the scientific method at my grade school ( I'm a nerd at a private high school) or what atom makes something an " organic compound" then something is seriously wrong, I'm blessed to go to an amazing school, but I seriously think our country needs to shape up in math and science ( I had the WORST math teacher, I didnt get into that advanced chem class I wanted because of her, lously teacher)
so what are your thoguhts? I'd love to hear them. Unlike most others i don't begrudge other beliefs, I simply try to see them flushed out
 

ShindoL Shill

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in my country, we do 2 PEs a week mandatory.
then we get the option of the Army.
be thankful you dont live in Israel.
but we get told we have a choice, but we dont. all we get the option of is bollocks, bullshit and crap. you know your school PE is terrible when the best option is powerwalking.
 

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honestly doing phycical activitys is a huge part of life and learning to control your body is important sure you know how to walk and such but there is a big difference between you and a gymnist I think PE teaches you how to build your body and make you physically capable.
 

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Yeah, I think it's just a thing. Kids sit all day behind desks and eat sweets and junk so this is a way of burning it off and teaching them how to do it in the future.

In high school I was the typical nerd in American films and dramas, hated P.E with a passion (I would rather stay after school than do it) but did ok in my other classes.

I was super skinny in high school though, now I have packed on the pounds. I'm not obese just fat.
 

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It should be mandatory in my opinion. You might not like it but it's still good to get some exercise. For the people like me who already exercised on their free time it was a good warm-up.
 

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PE as I remember it being implemented in the United States is currently pointless (too little activity, too easy to get exempted). That said I'm still in favor of mandatory physical education for every single year that a kid is in school. I also think that you should have to be crippled or bleeding to death to be allowed to opt out. The world is getting too fat to leave children to their own devices regarding fitness. Get their asses moving.
 

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neonsword13-ops said:
Edit: I work out at the gym. A Lot.


So I question the Escapist members about mandatory Physical Ed.: What's the point?

There is no point in having physical education. It's our life. Our build. I think we have enough power to decide what we want to do with our bodies, correct?

Can you help me understand this "Theory" of P.E.? I'm some what ignorant of these thing called rules in school.
According to this logic you might as well not have mandatory schooling at all. After all, it is your mind, what you learn with it is your choice.

School is supposed to give you the tools to be a well rounded adult, once you are out, you can decide what to do with them.

Maybe you will find out that you really like weightlifting and will enjoy yourself if you give it a chance, if not, as with almost everything else, you will be miserable, and it won't be anyone's fault but your own
 
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It's like that over there? We just have it once a week so they can teach us how to play different types of sports.

What you described sounds like it would suck.
 

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One of the reasons our country (US) has such a problem with obesity is that our Physical Education system is so polarizing.

Those already in good shape are on the fast track to being jocks by grade 4, those who aren't are ostracized, encouraged to sit on the sidelines, and overall discouraged from participating, because "fatty over there would only slow the team down."

It gets worse later, as kids who do well in sports in High School often get preferential treatment from coaches, to the point of verbal abuse toward "eggheads and bookworms". This is all compounded by a severe atmosphere of homophobia.

There are a myriad of ways to improve this, one idea being martial arts. When martial arts are taught properly, with the correct emphasis on discipline and personal responsibility, there is no increase in (unsanctioned) school fights.

Where I'm from, there is a saying: "Those who can teach, teach. Those who can't, teach PE."

In my experience, that is true and needs to change.
 

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The only PE I enjoyed was rock climbing when the school bought a rockwall, other than that I hated it.

Especially when we square danced: for a whole semester
 

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neonsword13-ops said:
thecoreyhlltt said:
what is this the 90's? i thought kids were done complaining about that. just man up, although i do agree with candid117 both about making a poor choice and about your poor attitude. i was (and still am) a nerdy skrawny kid in highschool, look at it as a chance to build some muscle and not be a little guy anymore. having a poor attitude about it will only make it worse.
I don't mind working out. I don't. I actually enjoy it. I go to my local gym now and again and run on the tredmil for HOURS. Plus, i'm not much for sports. I just never got into it. (Although hockey is pretty invigorating) So, I just don't need lump heads that have been doing drugs, impregnating girls, and just being stupid around me. I don't mind people, just those types.
That statement is pissing me off. The Goth kids were doing way more drugs then any of the Jocks in my school and that's a huge assumption I liked gym and I did wrestling in high school and never did drugs or had sex. Also if it's a mandatory class how is there going to be more jocks then in other mandatory classes.

If you have a slender build treadmill running isn't the most helpful exercise, it helps you burn fat but doesn't build much muscle, sure if you're slender you'll always be slender, for the most part, but that doesn't mean you can't have defined muscles.

I see no reason to get rid of PE, I see a lot of kids that wouldn't exercise without it and I don't see how an extra hour of exercise is going to hurt anyone. And for the it doesn't help you in life argument, I'm pretty sure being healthy does help you in life. Being healthy allows you to more easily deal with taxing jobs like factory work or being a waiter, also lots of job do focus on health and high school is about exposing us to multiple types of skills helping us decide what we want later and to make us well rounded people. And it always help to be in decent health.
 

neonsword13-ops

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lord.jeff said:
neonsword13-ops said:
thecoreyhlltt said:
what is this the 90's? i thought kids were done complaining about that. just man up, although i do agree with candid117 both about making a poor choice and about your poor attitude. i was (and still am) a nerdy skrawny kid in highschool, look at it as a chance to build some muscle and not be a little guy anymore. having a poor attitude about it will only make it worse.
I don't mind working out. I don't. I actually enjoy it. I go to my local gym now and again and run on the tredmil for HOURS. Plus, i'm not much for sports. I just never got into it. (Although hockey is pretty invigorating) So, I just don't need lump heads that have been doing drugs, impregnating girls, and just being stupid around me. I don't mind people, just those types.
That statement is pissing me off. The Goth kids were doing way more drugs then any of the Jocks in my school and that's a huge assumption I liked gym and I did wrestling in high school and never did drugs or had sex. Also if it's a mandatory class how is there going to be more jocks then in other mandatory classes.
Didn't mean to make you pissy sir, down in Missouri, the common male IS the inpregnating, drug using, idiot. IT's a very common stereotype because we are classified as one of them HICK STATES. So I didn't mean to affend you if I did.
 

lord.jeff

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neonsword13-ops said:
Didn't mean to make you pissy sir, down in Missouri, the common male IS the inpregnating, drug using, idiot. IT's a very common stereotype because we are classified as one of them HICK STATES. So I didn't mean to affend you if I did.
It's okay if I couldn't deal with things irritating me I would of stopped using the internet a long time ago, thanks for apologizing.
 

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Canid117 said:
You picked what sounds like weight training to avoid the "Neanderthals?" Thats the class where the football coach is the teacher and half the class is going to be his player maintaining their build. Way to go buddy. I guess you deserve it though for being so dismissive and smug towards others.
hush, I agree with OP, the majority those dumbfucks in the weight classes are neanderthals that have no competent thoughts whatsoever.

OT: In the US, at least in the Ohio region, PE is a ridiculously easy, I hardly break a sweat. I run cross country, so I can run 5 to 10 miles a day with no problem, and that's what keeps me in shape. I believe the PE system needs to be revised to make the actual physical aspect more intense, and make it mandatory, the parents be damned. The one thing that is lacking is our generations work ethic, my classmates are so damn lazy, and think they are entitled to do as they feel: Not give a shit about gym class and just walk.

People just suck.
 

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The things that characterized P.E. for me were being made fun of all the time for not being athletic and having someone break my collarbone in a basketball game.
 

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It's a load of crap.

Here's some data from the CDC regarding obesity rates according to age group: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm
As you can see, the rate drops by 2% for the "high school age" demographic compared to childhood. However, this basically doubles for adults over the age of 20, which indicates that any mitigating effect in high school was lost. Furthermore, another 34% are overweight, which means we are now at 68% of the adult population being above a healthy weight. There is no way one can make any convincing argument that PE in high school helps stop obesity, as the increased trend from childhood continues into adulthood (shit, even the doubling trend continues!). If anything, I would attribute the slight decrease in adolescents to peer-pressure, but I can't find any data to back that up. Yet.

Now let's examine adolescents individually. Here's another study: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/obesity_child_07_08/obesity_child_07_08.pdf (interesting data is on the last page)
What we find is that obesity rates have increased over time, and that more males tend to be obese compared to females of the same ethnicity, save for African-Americans. Given that that sports and PE in general are geared more towards males, this would indicate that such programs have no statistically significant effect, although attributing the on average lower obesity rates of females to peer-pressure is once again a viable, although not yet statistically backed up alternative. What I see as a more likely explanation is the income discrepancy of the ethnicity compared. Here's the average income by ethnicity from 2005, which will suffice for a topical comparison: http://factfinder.census.gov/jsp/saff/SAFFInfo.jsp?_pageId=tp6_income_employment. What we see is that of the three groups compared, whites make by far the most (go figure...), whereas blacks and Hispanics only make about 60% of that income. While Hispanics have a slightly higher average income, they also have *on average* larger families (http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/aer731/aer731d.pdf), which leads to n overall lesser income per family member. Given that fast-food is on average the cheapest meal option (here's a fun article showing $/calorie of some fast food items: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SmartSpending/ConsumerActionGuide/wallet-vs-waist-fast-food-cost-per-calorie.aspx), it is reasonable to assume that households with the lowest income per family member are more prone to eating the cheap but fattening fast food. This type of behavior continues on into adulthood, where it then impacts the next generation. There, that seems the most likely explanation for why obesity is so prevalent in the US.

Want to alleviate the problem? Replace sodas in school vending machines with water/sugar free tea/diet-sodas, make school lunches healthier, do not have those stupid snack vending machines, and have some real fucking nutrition lessons in that otherwise completely worthless "health" class. The claim that PE helps solve the problem is not backed up by statistics. On that note, the education system here is shitty enough. Might as well replace that PE stuff with some mandatory "how not to be a worthless idiot" course.

This little rant was written by a 179cm and 68kg white guy and recent college graduate who is in better shape than some athletes out there. How you may ask? About three hours per week working out (running/biking), and a dozen sit-ups/push-ups in the morning and evening. Oh, and healthy eating, but that vegetarian thing ain't for everybody it seems...
 

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I know our PE was like a fucking slaughter house.
There wouldn't be a class someone didn't break something, sprain and ankle or wrist, or start bleeding for some reason. I couldn't wait to get out of there, the worst I got was a baseball in the nose.
 

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I don't get why people don't like PE, playing football ( or soccer for you americans ) is awesome and since that's what we did during 75% of PE lessons ( from the start of school, until the snow was too thick to play in then when the snow melted till the end of school ) PE was one of my favourite lessons.