Marines Desecrate Insurgent corpse, urinate on it

[Lunar Templar]

They're not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed if they let themselves be recorded.

But hey, don't need a brain to be cannon fodder.

Let's be honest here, I respect what some soldiers do, and I mean no disrespect to those who have pride in their work and uphold the integrity of their unit and their country while on operations.

But some people are just bullet sponges, a distraction so the real soldier can get shit done.

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Well that is just wrong, Sadly things like this get more publicity than the bravery of some soldiers...

as well as

i hope they all get ***** smacked by their CO's for making the whole army look bad

 

[applesandoranges]

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[xDarc]

If this thread is still up in 24 hours without any mod action I'm leaving this site. Just saying.

Because of the video in the first post? That's about the only reason I can imagine the thread would need to go down.

Well, yeah. I don't object to any of the comments but I'm amazed that the video has been posted and not removed. When I think that how relatively harmless pornographic content ISN'T allowed on this site, to think that a video of some guys flopping out their dicks and pissing on corpses is allowed is in my opinion the height of hypocrisy and it needs to be removed or I'm outta here. I know mods have a busy job, hence maybe it got overlooked so I'm giving them 24 hours.

There were dicks flopping? Maybe I need glasses. Honestly, I was squinting trying to see if any penis was even visible. For the most part, the penises appear to be small enough that the blocky compression pretty much acts as a mosaic.

 

[Lord S. Binkleheimer]

Seems like a step down from what Pershing would do to break the enemy's will.

 

[BonsaiK]

If this thread is still up in 24 hours without any mod action I'm leaving this site. Just saying.

Because of the video in the first post? That's about the only reason I can imagine the thread would need to go down.

Well, yeah. I don't object to any of the comments but I'm amazed that the video has been posted and not removed. When I think that how relatively harmless pornographic content ISN'T allowed on this site, to think that a video of some guys flopping out their dicks and pissing on corpses is allowed is in my opinion the height of hypocrisy and it needs to be removed or I'm outta here. I know mods have a busy job, hence maybe it got overlooked so I'm giving them 24 hours.

There were dicks flopping? Maybe I need glasses. Honestly, I was squinting trying to see if any penis was even visible. For the most part, the penises appear to be small enough that the blocky compression pretty much acts as a mosaic.

Ah, the obvious jokes I could make. I'll refrain though.

It is a little hard to see, but it's definitely there. At 0:10 you can see the guy second from left get his out and it does actually kind of flop around before he starts pissing with it so I'm not making this up. Seems nudity on The Escapist is only okay if it's accompanied by dead bodies and piss.

 

[BonsaiK]

If this thread is still up in 24 hours without any mod action I'm leaving this site. Just saying.

Yeah I'm just as surprised as you are that this thread is still fucking going....

But don't leave man, you're like the fine wine of this site. You give out great life lessons and you're in the music business.

Well, cheers. I try to contribute positively. I guess now The Escapist has to decide if that's more important to them than showing military snuff films to 13 year olds.

 

[Edible Avatar]

Hey, to be honest, I'm a pretty sore winner, and if I had shot and killed a guy who was less than 10 minutes ago shooting at me and my buddies, I would probably be doing a little pissing on him too. Or, were I still in combat, maybe I'd just crouch over his body a few times. (See kids, this is why you don't let a gamer go to war.)

eh i'd hold off on that: he might have Martyrdom equipped as a perk.

 

[Vault101]

If this thread is still up in 24 hours without any mod action I'm leaving this site. Just saying.

Because of the video in the first post? That's about the only reason I can imagine the thread would need to go down.

Well, yeah. I don't object to any of the comments but I'm amazed that the video has been posted and not removed. When I think that how relatively harmless pornographic content ISN'T allowed on this site, to think that a video of some guys flopping out their dicks and pissing on corpses is allowed is in my opinion the height of hypocrisy and it needs to be removed or I'm outta here. I know mods have a busy job, hence maybe it got overlooked so I'm giving them 24 hours.

There were dicks flopping? Maybe I need glasses. Honestly, I was squinting trying to see if any penis was even visible. For the most part, the penises appear to be small enough that the blocky compression pretty much acts as a mosaic.

Ah, the obvious jokes I could make. I'll refrain though.

It is a little hard to see, but it's definitely there. At 0:10 you can see the guy second from left get his out and it does actually kind of flop around before he starts pissing with it so I'm not making this up. Seems nudity on The Escapist is only okay if it's accompanied by dead bodies and piss.

But, I mean no one here thinks is "ok" (mostly no one)

this happened, its disgusting but are we better off NOT knowing that this goes on? mabye because of this (the video floating around I mean) those guys may get whats coming to them

wouldnt removing the video be like saying "no..this didnt happen...nothing liek this ever happens"

 

[Edible Avatar]

Couldn't care less. Deficate on them too for good measure. Have you seen what the locals do to the corpses of marines? Now thats barbaric. When you allow your children to pull them to pieces and batter them with sticks and stones all while chanting "Allah Akbhar".

When we're condemning a country for their actions to the point of war, we can't just turn around and start acting like them.

They why does America only get their retards to become soldiers? The standard for the american forces is pretty low in comparison to the standards of lets say european forces.

I'm not defending the op but you need to show facts if you want to be taken seriously while posting stuff like that.

back to homework...

 

[Erttheking]

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You seriously need to calm down. People discussing Marines doing discussing things is bad? Maybe they should have had common sense and not have done this in the first place.

 

[BonsaiK]

If this thread is still up in 24 hours without any mod action I'm leaving this site. Just saying.

Because of the video in the first post? That's about the only reason I can imagine the thread would need to go down.

Well, yeah. I don't object to any of the comments but I'm amazed that the video has been posted and not removed. When I think that how relatively harmless pornographic content ISN'T allowed on this site, to think that a video of some guys flopping out their dicks and pissing on corpses is allowed is in my opinion the height of hypocrisy and it needs to be removed or I'm outta here. I know mods have a busy job, hence maybe it got overlooked so I'm giving them 24 hours.

There were dicks flopping? Maybe I need glasses. Honestly, I was squinting trying to see if any penis was even visible. For the most part, the penises appear to be small enough that the blocky compression pretty much acts as a mosaic.

Ah, the obvious jokes I could make. I'll refrain though.

It is a little hard to see, but it's definitely there. At 0:10 you can see the guy second from left get his out and it does actually kind of flop around before he starts pissing with it so I'm not making this up. Seems nudity on The Escapist is only okay if it's accompanied by dead bodies and piss.

But, I mean no one here thinks is "ok" (mostly no one)

this happened, its disgusting but are we better off NOT knowing that this goes on? mabye because of this (the video floating around I mean) those guys may get whats coming to them

wouldnt removing the video be like saying "no..this didnt happen...nothing liek this ever happens"

You're missing the point I'm making. I'm all for raising awareness. I think it's good that this thread was posted. I like it that people are discussing this issue.

What is bad is this:

* The Escapist is a site that totally bans the linking to or even the advocating of pornography or nude images and video.
* A video like this has nudity as well as graphic violence (which unlike the violence in some porn, isn't simulated or play-acted) and basically qualifies as snuff porn, yet is somehow acceptable to be linked in a thread here.

I think it's a double-standard.

Furthermore:

* The person who linked the video also owns the YouTube Channel it came from. So he's advertising his own channel. This type of advertising is also not allowed here.

The thread in my opinion is a good thing and can stay. The video itself should be removed if The Escapist is to keep in line with THEIR OWN POLICIES on content. Even news sites that reported this incident in the press aren't silly enough to link the actual video!

 

[Hal10k]

If this thread is still up in 24 hours without any mod action I'm leaving this site. Just saying.

Because of the video in the first post? That's about the only reason I can imagine the thread would need to go down.

Well, yeah. I don't object to any of the comments but I'm amazed that the video has been posted and not removed. When I think that how relatively harmless pornographic content ISN'T allowed on this site, to think that a video of some guys flopping out their dicks and pissing on corpses is allowed is in my opinion the height of hypocrisy and it needs to be removed or I'm outta here. I know mods have a busy job, hence maybe it got overlooked so I'm giving them 24 hours.

There were dicks flopping? Maybe I need glasses. Honestly, I was squinting trying to see if any penis was even visible. For the most part, the penises appear to be small enough that the blocky compression pretty much acts as a mosaic.

Ah, the obvious jokes I could make. I'll refrain though.

It is a little hard to see, but it's definitely there. At 0:10 you can see the guy second from left get his out and it does actually kind of flop around before he starts pissing with it so I'm not making this up. Seems nudity on The Escapist is only okay if it's accompanied by dead bodies and piss.

But, I mean no one here thinks is "ok" (mostly no one)

this happened, its disgusting but are we better off NOT knowing that this goes on? mabye because of this (the video floating around I mean) those guys may get whats coming to them

wouldnt removing the video be like saying "no..this didnt happen...nothing liek this ever happens"

You're missing the point I'm making. I'm all for raising awareness. I think it's good that this thread was posted. I like it that people are discussing this issue.

What is bad is this:

* The Escapist is a site that totally bans the linking to or even the advocating of pornography or nude images and video.
* A video like this has nudity as well as graphic violence (which unlike the violence in some porn, isn't simulated or play-acted) and basically qualifies as snuff porn, yet is somehow acceptable to be linked in a thread here.

I think it's a double-standard.

Furthermore:

* The person who linked the video also owns the YouTube Channel it came from. So he's advertising his own channel. This type of advertising is also not allowed here.

The thread in my opinion is a good thing and can stay. The video itself should be removed if The Escapist is to keep in line with THEIR OWN POLICIES on content.

Context is everything. The nudity isn't being presented in a sexual manner, it's just there. It's like a medical show, only absolutely horrible. Similar standards would apply to the violence and the fact that it's on the user's channel: so long as it's being presented as "Let's have a rational discussion on why human beings could perform actions so horrible as the ones in this video", instead of "Check out this awesome violence! Subscribe please!", it's deemed acceptable.

 

[lacktheknack]

YAY FOR WAR!

Desecrating corpses happens on both sides, I suppose we should be happy that it was limited to urination on the American side.

And I highly doubt that the insurgents will go on a foaming frenzy about this any more than they would for the fact that they actually killed the insurgents.

 

[Double A]

Couldn't care less. Deficate on them too for good measure. Have you seen what the locals do to the corpses of marines? Now thats barbaric. When you allow your children to pull them to pieces and batter them with sticks and stones all while chanting "Allah Akbhar".

When we're condemning a country for their actions to the point of war, we can't just turn around and start acting like them.

They why does America only get their retards to become soldiers? The standard for the american forces is pretty low in comparison to the standards of lets say european forces.

Marines are cannon fodder. Literally. That is their entire purpose. First in, last out. They take the bullets so that the people worth something don't have to.

That's not to say that all Marines are dumb muscle and some do actively choose to be there, but most are put into the US Marines because they have more brawn than brains.

That's probably why.

Hm, I thought it was because they were elite infantry (compared to the regular army anyway) and elites are better at their job. Or at least that's the vibe I seem to be getting from every video game, movie, and book involving them.

 

[LilithSlave]

This sort of thing is not uncommon.

It shouldn't need proving that being an American soldier does not automatically warrant respect. But the United States is such a patriotic nation that nobody, left or right, has the guts to say anything negative about soldierdom.

 

[ED-Tw0 ZeRo N9nE]

I'll answer that question for you, I'm completely ashamed of what I saw in that video. I've been lurking on this site for a while, but nothing has compelled me to actually join in on any discussions until now. I almost don't want to admit it due to how the Military is percieved on this site (you all know what I'm referring to), but I am a former Marine myself. No, I'm not one of the Marines in this video or any of the others anyone might be thinking of either, I did my job and got out honorably.

Now, pertaining to the video, it's obvious that these guys are Infantry, which doesn't represent the entirety of the Marine Corps. Every Marine may be a Rifleman, but not every Marine is a Grunt. I wasn't, and I'm not ashamed to admit it (to the Grunts who read this, yes it means I'm a POG). Even though I shouldn't have to clarify what my job was, in order to eliminate confusion, I was a Motor Transport Mechanic. Even with these guys being grunts, it was say, less that 10 Marines participating. Unless someone can recognise faces or read nametags in this video, I doubt anyone in the clip will be charged with anything. If any of them do get identified, it'll most likely be a slap on the wrist. While this IS unprofessional, I'm not convinced that it's technically desecration. It's urine, it evaporates and the corpses can't feel it. If they didn't film it, then after an hour went by, know one would know it even happened at all.

I don't condone what they did, but I realise that this stuff has been going on since the first caveman shat on the face of a rival tribesman who looked at him funny (after beating it in with a rock). Killing them is one thing, what we do is a necessary evil, I'd have done it myself had I been there. That said, once theyre dead they're dead, box them up and send them on their way. Funny thing is, I bet this won't get anywhere near as big of an issue as the puppy throwing vid.

Edit: hmm, this was supposed to be a reply to Grouchy Imp, but for some reason it didn't come out that way. Oh well, nothing I can do about it now.

 

[Hal10k]

Couldn't care less. Deficate on them too for good measure. Have you seen what the locals do to the corpses of marines? Now thats barbaric. When you allow your children to pull them to pieces and batter them with sticks and stones all while chanting "Allah Akbhar".

When we're condemning a country for their actions to the point of war, we can't just turn around and start acting like them.

They why does America only get their retards to become soldiers? The standard for the american forces is pretty low in comparison to the standards of lets say european forces.

Marines are cannon fodder. Literally. That is their entire purpose. First in, last out. They take the bullets so that the people worth something don't have to.

That's not to say that all Marines are dumb muscle and some do actively choose to be there, but most are put into the US Marines because they have more brawn than brains.

That's probably why.

Hm, I thought it was because they were elite infantry (compared to the regular army anyway) and elites are better at their job. Or at least that's the vibe I seem to be getting from every video game, movie, and book involving them.

In theory, the main thing that distinguishes the United States Marine Corp from the other military service branches is an increased speed and effectiveness at which they can be deployed. The name "marine" originally referred to the amphibious assaults undertaken by forces of their nature, but the modern day Marine Corp is a bit more diverse in this regard.

In practice, there are a few factors that lead to the "dumb but tough" Marine stereotype. The primary factor is that boot camp for Marines is actually harder for the Marines than the other branches: it lasts longer, has higher fitness requirements, and has more difficult marksmanship requirements.

 

[Frostbite3789]

This makes them as bad as the terrorists.

The rest of your post is spot-on...but this part is ridiculous.

I don't quite think peeing on some dead dudes is on the same level as terrorism. Maybe things changed when I wasn't paying attention, but I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near strapping a bomb to your chest and blowing yourself in a crowded civilian area.

Forgive me, but I just don't see the comparison.