Marvel Confirms Loki Was Being Influenced By Scepter in 'The Avengers'

[Asita]

I begin to think that people don't understand the concept at play here. This is not saying that Loki had no fault for it or that the scepter was controlling him. It's saying that it was pushing him. The key line is at the end of the quote: "Unbeknownst to him, the Scepter was also influencing him, fueling his hatred over his brother Thor and the inhabitants of Earth". The scepter was not the Helm of Opposite Alignment, Frostmourne turning the noble Arthas into a malicious Death Knight, or the Majora's Mask possessing the Skull Kid. It was Palpatine egging on Luke to give into his anger, the Joker encouraging Harvey Dent to embrace chaos and become Two-Face, Alexander encouraging Daniel's paranoia (Amnesia: the Dark Descent), or Iago fueling Othello's insecurity and jealousy.

It didn't force Loki to do anything, it was just a bad influence on him, like that friend encouraging you to take a hit of something illegal at a block party. It does not absolve Loki of his actions, it better explains why he concluded they were the proper course of action.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

Also Thanos was just having a bad week

Hela was just PMSing

Ultron just needed a hug

Literally nothing anybody did ever matters!

It does kinda' undermine the whole 'villain' thing. I mean Loki killed the one dude, and then Agents of Shield brought him back, completely undermining that entire scene.
At least have the balls to keep the dead people dead and the evil people evil. Otherwise its all moot. Like the ending of Infinity War was completely moot because we know who comes back and who doesn't.

 

[jademunky]

Also Thanos was just having a bad week

Hela was just PMSing

Ultron just needed a hug

Literally nothing anybody did ever matters!

It does kinda' undermine the whole 'villain' thing. I mean Loki killed the one dude, and then Agents of Shield brought him back, completely undermining that entire scene.
At least have the balls to keep the dead people dead and the evil people evil. Otherwise its all moot. Like the ending of Infinity War was completely moot because we know who comes back and who doesn't.

Yeah for me, I see it as Disney being afraid to have people like a bad guy. They felt their fans were so fearful they needed to write in these excuses for people to like him, not understanding that nobody felt that was needed.

The bringing people back from the dead I am ambivalent about having felt that fight was lost ages ago. Comic book movie and all.

 

[Cicada 5]

Also Thanos was just having a bad week

Hela was just PMSing

Ultron just needed a hug

Literally nothing anybody did ever matters!

It does kinda' undermine the whole 'villain' thing. I mean Loki killed the one dude, and then Agents of Shield brought him back, completely undermining that entire scene.
At least have the balls to keep the dead people dead and the evil people evil. Otherwise its all moot. Like the ending of Infinity War was completely moot because we know who comes back and who doesn't.

Yeah for me, I see it as Disney being afraid to have people like a bad guy. They felt their fans were so fearful they needed to write in these excuses for people to like him, not understanding that nobody felt that was needed.

The bringing people back from the dead I am ambivalent about having felt that fight was lost ages ago. Comic book movie and all.

As someone else pointed out, this isn't saying Loki was mind controlled. He was already resentful of Thor and Earth, the sceptre just supercharged it. It didn't make him do something he didn't already want to do on some level.

 

[Gatx]

I HATE how big wigs feel the need to step in and intervene with these little irrelevant plot details, a la J.K. Rowling. Sometimes ambiguity in the text is a GOOD THING.

You know they just came up with that so Disney can sidestep the moral compromise of peddling a genocidal maniac as a hero.

They have no qualms about marketing characters and merchandise for an organization aesthetically based on Nazi Germany to children so ...

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I HATE how big wigs feel the need to step in and intervene with these little irrelevant plot details, a la J.K. Rowling. Sometimes ambiguity in the text is a GOOD THING.

You know they just came up with that so Disney can sidestep the moral compromise of peddling a genocidal maniac as a hero.

They have no qualms about marketing characters and merchandise for an organization aesthetically based on Nazi Germany to children so ...

So what? Those are the bad guys. Loki's been a good guy since Thor 2. The whole "It was the scepter all along" is just some bullshit revisionism Marvel/Disney came up with to wash their hands off the more dubious aspects of making Loki funny or likeable.