Marvel Teases Return of Spider-Man's Marriage

[Trishbot]

I seriously cannot fathom why ANYONE would be upset about this.

This is actually the best, happiest, and most satisfying news (if true) that I've read about Spider-man in years.

I mean, getting rid of "One More Day", and reintroducing "Mayday" Parker into the comic line proper again? Who could honestly stand against that?

I have no idea what Marvel's doing, but if they bring the marriage, and his kid, back into comics, I'll definitely pick the book up again (I quit HARD after "One More Day").

I mean, there's a reason I'm a huge fan of MJ and Peter's marriage...

Spider-man without Mary Jane is like Batman without Alfred or Shaggy without Scooby-Doo. I have no interest in them separated.

 

[Jupiter065]

I wonder if they'll have Mayday start getting her powers earlier than in Spider-Girl?
Or if they'll explain how she's suddenly a 7 year old.
Whatever, I loved the Spider-dad dynamic in Spider-Girl, I hope they capture some of that here!

 

[fix-the-spade]

This sounds so dumb that it rises to the level of "it was only a dream" on Dallas when Bobby Ewing came back. (look it up, youngsters) Do comicbook fans actually like this kind of thing?

Modern comics are an infinite number of stories bound to a finite number of characters, because aside from 2000AD nobody dare start a series from scratch.

You just have to roll with it and take the stories in isolation, they're either good or they're not.

 

[Something Amyss]

Well not after he came back....

This was about 2001-2002 though.

I've been a comic fan since the 80s, though. Never heard it.

I would love 'for one more day' to be 'one more day'ed, even better if Spider-Girl becomes a reality .

So who sells what to who to make that deal?

 

[Ukomba]

Well not after he came back....

This was about 2001-2002 though.

I've been a comic fan since the 80s, though. Never heard it.

I would love 'for one more day' to be 'one more day'ed, even better if Spider-Girl becomes a reality .

So who sells what to who to make that deal?

uhhhhh, [Insert Disney being the Devil Joke here].

 

[Something Amyss]

uhhhhh, [Insert Disney being the Devil Joke here].

Actually, I was thinking that this was Quesada's plan all along. In fact, if we just ripped off his mask, we might find he was Mephisto all along!!!!!

DUN DUN DUN!!!!!

 

[V4Viewtiful]

Screw you Marvel! You got some nerve taking the marriage away in the most BS way possible turning Peter into a man child even his ultimate version would say "grow up!"

S-man 2099 is enough for me you, you gits!

 

[Shingeki no Gingerbeard]

I just hope they undo the undoing the marriage and tell it well.

 

[PunkRex]

The archangel Michael comes down to sort this out I'm guessing?

 

[Scarim Coral]

I wonder if the whole "Petra" Parker from the Ultimate Spider-man cartoon has something to do with it? Even then I will then wonder how long will they recton the couple again to never been married when the new generation of readers no longer relate to him or will they think Peter interaction with his daughter will help the reader relate to their father/ mother?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

So are they going to spend another 20 years trying to undo it again?

 

[Chester Rabbit]

I'm confused. I know the status quo is God, but I no longer know what the status quo is. It';s like Petere's trapped in a never ending series of retcons to restore him between two points which are both equally "right" and not.

It's because Peter Parker was originally conceived as a teenage nerd with lots of real-life (as in, non-superhero related) problems, mostly relationship-based. However, the fanbase of this original portrayal grew up, so the character was slowly evolved to grow up along with them... but then the people in charge of this development got replaced by the next generation, who themselves grew up on the "old" Spidey, and they decided to get rid of all the continuity and plotlines they didn't like and take him back to his "golden age" by practically rebooting him. Then a new generation grew up following this Spidey, and when they got into the industry, they wanted to return him to his roots again in chase of said mystical "golden age of Spiderman" that only existed in their nostalgia-fueled minds. Rinse and repeat.

You can see the exact same cycle in the movie adaptations as well. First we had Spiderman, which had the origin story and was a success. Then we had Spiderman 2, which was an even greater success. Then we had Spiderman 3, which was generally disliked. However, during these three movies, Spiderman "kinda" grew up, piled up a lot of continuity and Tobey Maguire got too old to pass on for a teenager/young adult (not that he could ever pass for one to begin with, but that's another discussion entirely). So instead of carrying on with the storyline, trying to cast a married, adult Peter Parker in a Spiderman 4, Sony decided to start chasing the "golden age" as well by discontinuing the Spiderman movie canon and starting the Amazing Spiderman series by a new retelling of the origin story, reverting Peter to a teenager and once again introducing the relationship-issues and start all over again in chase of a dream.

Hell, this is not even some fan-interpretation. Joe Quesada, the main writer of the mentioned One More Day pretty much literally outlined how they rebooted the character not because of the actually credible reason of his unmasking, but simply because he personally preferred the single, teenager Spiderman of his own childhood! That right there is the reason why they keep rebooting Spidey: the writers refuse to let him grow up because they themselves refuse to tear themselves away from their childhood image of the character. It's actually really sad and infuriating...

And this is why I will never ever get back into comic books. It's just fucking pointless.

 

[gamegod25]

Do we really need to dredge back up memories of "One More Day" even if it's to retcon it?

*shrugs* Either way I don't care so I'll just leave it to the rabid comic fans to argue over.

 

[marscentral]

Well, I honestly hope this is Marvel finally getting it's act together with Spidey because it feels like they've spent the last decade trying to wreck him.

Now if we can only get DC to put Lois and Clark back together...

 

[Something Amyss]

I just hope they undo the undoing the marriage and tell it well.

I suspect we'll see him propose in public in Civil War 2 or something just as dumb.

The archangel Michael comes down to sort this out I'm guessing?

Only if he comes down, Gibbs slaps Quesada, and tells Marvel never to pull this crap again.

So what? They're going to retconn the retconn?

Wouldn't be the first time. I remember when they "killed" Mary Jane. Actually, I think they did this several times.

Do we really need to dredge back up memories of "One More Day" even if it's to retcon it?

The first page of the issue will include an agreement between the fans and Marvel to never mention it again.

 

[George Albanis]

I'm confused. I know the status quo is God, but I no longer know what the status quo is. It';s like Petere's trapped in a never ending series of retcons to restore him between two points which are both equally "right" and not.

It's because Peter Parker was originally conceived as a teenage nerd with lots of real-life (as in, non-superhero related) problems, mostly relationship-based. However, the fanbase of this original portrayal grew up, so the character was slowly evolved to grow up along with them... but then the people in charge of this development got replaced by the next generation, who themselves grew up on the "old" Spidey, and they decided to get rid of all the continuity and plotlines they didn't like and take him back to his "golden age" by practically rebooting him. Then a new generation grew up following this Spidey, and when they got into the industry, they wanted to return him to his roots again in chase of said mystical "golden age of Spiderman" that only existed in their nostalgia-fueled minds. Rinse and repeat.

You can see the exact same cycle in the movie adaptations as well. First we had Spiderman, which had the origin story and was a success. Then we had Spiderman 2, which was an even greater success. Then we had Spiderman 3, which was generally disliked. However, during these three movies, Spiderman "kinda" grew up, piled up a lot of continuity and Tobey Maguire got too old to pass on for a teenager/young adult (not that he could ever pass for one to begin with, but that's another discussion entirely). So instead of carrying on with the storyline, trying to cast a married, adult Peter Parker in a Spiderman 4, Sony decided to start chasing the "golden age" as well by discontinuing the Spiderman movie canon and starting the Amazing Spiderman series by a new retelling of the origin story, reverting Peter to a teenager and once again introducing the relationship-issues and start all over again in chase of a dream.

Hell, this is not even some fan-interpretation. Joe Quesada, the main writer of the mentioned One More Day pretty much literally outlined how they rebooted the character not because of the actually credible reason of his unmasking, but simply because he personally preferred the single, teenager Spiderman of his own childhood! That right there is the reason why they keep rebooting Spidey: the writers refuse to let him grow up because they themselves refuse to tear themselves away from their childhood image of the character. It's actually really sad and infuriating...

This is EXACTLY how I feel. I'm 43 and I started reading in the 70's when Spider-Man was pretty much a "man" and also drawn that way. Sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's they started making him out as a kid and it's never stopped. The Sony films almost had him grow but they rebooted him again.

It's maddening and I haven't been able to read a SpiderMan comic since the brutal and crappy 90's where in my opinion everything went to shit.

 

[Erttheking]

I'm confused. I know the status quo is God, but I no longer know what the status quo is. It';s like Petere's trapped in a never ending series of retcons to restore him between two points which are both equally "right" and not.

And this is why I'm really hesitant to get into comic books. Continuity is more fucked than a triple cunted hooker.

 

[Something Amyss]

And this is why I'm really hesitant to get into comic books. Continuity is more fucked than a triple cunted hooker.

I'm actually of two minds on this, myself. On the one hand, it seems worse than ever what with Marvel doing an event storyline that will shake the universe to its core every three months and DC doing it every...year? I don't know.

On the other hand, I got into comics in the eighties and you don't really need to know the continuity. If I could follow the plots at 4 or 5, I think most people can suss it out in their adult years. Yes, there's a couple more decades of continuity, but most of it is ignored anyway (as many nerds will tell you. At great length. Whether you want them to or not). I've been picking up random comic trades for Kindle because Amazon's had them on sale and while they do contain continuity I don't know, it's not hugely detrimental.

On the other hand, I still prefer the mostly self-contained nature of the movies and cartoons to comics these days.

Also, Spider-Man may be extra clusterfucky, since they seem to want to remind people of some of the worst crap in his history over and over again. I think the Escapist's own RossaLincoln brought up the Clone Saga in one of his tweets recently, something they would have been best off letting die but that apparently gets referenced a lot.

(And yes, I'm aware that Khaiyne is still around, before anyone mentions. I just don't care. They've retconned characters before, or simply ignored the worst parts)

 

[The Great JT]

Who would've seen it coming?