Marvel's first failure: Agent Carter officially cancelled Update: Most Wanted not wanted

[Xerosch]

While I watched both seasons I still don't get what was so interesting about Agent Carter as a character. Marvel made it look as if she was an amazing part of 'The First Avenger' while I perceived her as the obvious love interest. Making her into a light TV version of Indiana Jones and Joames Bond didn't help.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

So that's one TV show that still went for two seasons as a failure against three other television shows and eleven other films as successes. Honestly if I were an investor I'd consider that a pretty good ratio.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I wonder, now that Marvel's churning out movies faster, is the interest in "holding pattern shows" ala AoS & Carter dwindling?

 

[mduncan50]

I wonder, now that Marvel's churning out movies faster, is the interest in "holding pattern shows" ala AoS & Carter dwindling?

They've been doing two a year since 2011, since before those shows were on TV. I'd say if anything sapping away interest in those shows it's the Netflix series' and fans seeing what Marvel is capable of untethered from the network system.

 

[Zontar]

I wonder, now that Marvel's churning out movies faster, is the interest in "holding pattern shows" ala AoS & Carter dwindling?

Well Agent Carter never had that great of a viewership to begin with, and AoS has ever since Winter Soldier been getting its own identity, so it seems that the shows being used as a means of advertising the movies seems to be a thing of the past. Though AoS is likely to keep moving forward due to its ability to actually be its own thing anyway so as long as the domestic and international market keep making money for ABC it'll stay on the air.

I actually know people who watch AoS but aren't interested in seeing the movies, so there's possibly a market out there for at least that one show.

 

[hermes]

I liked the first season of Carter. It had a clear vision and mostly delivered, and it was a lot better than AoS. The second season was less spectacular, it felt like it was mostly following a checklist and having another go since the previous season was well received, but didn't have nothing to say.

I think the main issue with these series is that they never delivered in their promise of expanding on the cinematic universe. While it was clear that they couldn't have cameos by Robert Downey Jr, Chris Hemsworth or Scarlett Johansson, it was not like the movies couldn't include Chloe Bennet, Iain De Caestecker or Ming-Na Wen as background cameos during Winter Soldier or Age of Ultron (doesn't have to give them lines, just show them in some of the shoots where they include nameless agents). By the same token, Agent Carter was advertised as "the origins of SHIELD", which they never really address in both seasons. It has been reported that TV licences and movies have a rocky relationship in Marvel, so it is natural that Marvel and ABC are not interested in continuing. I expect AoS will continue just until they reach syndication.

The only exception could be The Inhumans, which has been an element of AoS for so long it necessarily should inform some elements of the movie (not to do it would be disingenuous)... but since the movie is not released, it is impossible to estimate how much (if anything) it will inform.

 

[FPLOON]

First off, FUCK! I was so digging Agent Carter when Peggy, Jarvis, and the crew were kicking ass and subtly connecting more of the world of the MCU... With that said, this doesn't surprise me because, just like Galavant, it always seemed like it was trying to be a one-shot thing that was given the greenlight to do it "one more once"...

Other than that, now who will reveal the first informants of Hydra during the early years of S.H.I.E.L.D.?

UPDATE: Almost a double FUCK!

 

[WolfThomas]

My wife and I enjoyed the show a lot. So this is a shame. There's a lot of forgotten Golden Age Marvel stuff they could have tapped into, characters like the Whizzer, the Angel, the Spirit of '76 . As well as things that would work better outside of the current setting (like Man-Thing).

The great thing is you could have parallel with the films and other series. When magic comes in you have Peggy interacting with magic. You could have her interact with the previous Iron Fist. Or Dracula if Blade hits Netflix.

I was very disappointed that the Scientist wasn't Blue Marvel, though that character is a bit too powerful to have floating around the MCU not saving the world.

 

[laggyteabag]

I really liked Season 1 of Agent Carter, but I lost interest midway through Season 2. Shame we never got to see Carter set up Shield, though.

Also, writing off Bobby and Hunter in Agents of Shield was stupid. They should have done the pilot, then, if it was a success, written them off the show, instead if the other way around. Now, we are down two characters, the spin-off is dead in the water. Silly Marvel execs.

 

[RedDeadFred]

I hope the cancellation of most wanted means that Bobbi and Hunter get to come back. You could argue that it would cheapen their exit, but to be honest, their exit felt really stupid anyway.

 

[Politrukk]

Agent Carter just failed to impress in the latter half of the second season, I couldn't be bothered to continue watching.

Agents of Shield is fun for what it is but I think spin-offs would be stretching it too thin.

 

[Darth Rosenberg]

Marvel's "first failure" seems a very odd label. Which Marvel? What timeline are we going from? Surely they've had plenty of 'failures' over the decades.

I'm a huge Whedon fan, and some of the writers and producers who'd worked on Dollhouse doing a Marvel show sounded awesome. However, I was never sold on the idea of how they'd pull off a low-budget universe tying into the MCU. The first season was all over the place in terms of quality and stories (some nifty characters, though), and so they never really justified its existence. Without S.H.I.E.L.D. really hitting its stride, the more overtly MCU flavoured properties overall would've suffered.

I've not seen a single ep of Agent Carter, but that's only because it airs on a channel I don't get - I'll just be getting the boxsets eventually.

Still, it's a shame as everything I've heard's been pretty positive, and I loved the concept.

...also: huh, so that's why Bobbi and Hunter vanished suddenly from S.H.I.E.L.D.? I missed an ep or two, so I wondered where they hell they went.

 

[Dandymanx]

It's a shame, yep it wasn't the best show ever but I kind of liked it, then again I'm kind of fond of that whole post-war late 40's, early 50's vibe (its part of what makes Fallout so much fun),

Plus loosing it kind of hamstrings the chances of any other Marvel projects been set other than 'now', Dr Strange for example looks passable, but could have been much more fun if they had gone full tilt 60's pskadelic

 

[Ihateregistering1]

It sort of depends on what you're defining as "Marvel" here. I mean, if we're talking about anything that is associated with Marvel comic books, both of the Hulk films weren't bombs, but weren't runaway successes either. The new Fantastic Four was a dumpster fire, and Rise of the Silver Surfer did pretty bad too.

I think X-Men 3 did pretty poorly too.

 

[Evonisia]

It sort of depends on what you're defining as "Marvel" here. I mean, if we're talking about anything that is associated with Marvel comic books, both of the Hulk films weren't bombs, but weren't runaway successes either. The new Fantastic Four was a dumpster fire, and Rise of the Silver Surfer did pretty bad too.

I think X-Men 3 did pretty poorly too.

I'm fairly certain the OP is just talking about the MCU (and the associated stuff like the TV shows). With the exception of "The Incredible Hulk" (2008), your examples don't come under that. Though for the record "X-Men: The Last Stand" did pretty middling, comparable to "The Incredible Hulk" and probably didn't make any money. It's probably why Fox decided to make that godawful "Origins" film.

OT: Can't say I'll miss it. Watched a few episodes and vaguely enjoyed it, but not enough to keep me invested. Silentpony, Xerosch and Happyninja42 covered why the plot just couldn't grip me at all.

My growing apathy to the MCU probably didn't help either.

 

[Zontar]

...also: huh, so that's why Bobbi and Hunter vanished suddenly from S.H.I.E.L.D.? I missed an ep or two, so I wondered where they hell they went.

Yeah, they wanted to do a spin-off staring them, so they had an episode focusing on them that honestly didn't feel that out of place given that it was only at the end where they chose to take the fall for SHIELD to help it regain legitimacy, but doing so means they've both been blacklisted from espionage and can never be seen as working for SHIELD or any other intelligence agency without there being massive diplomatic repercussions for said agency.

 

[K12]

Not really a dud since it's been fairly well received (season one was surprising in how good it was) it just never got a dedicated audience because of how limited a scope it was able to have.

I'd have liked to see a bit more and maybe get to when S.H.I.E.L.D. starts properly but since we already know that's rotten to the core and doomed from day one it might have been pretty difficult to enjoy watching that.