Mary Sues! *Shakes fist*

[Lord Kloo]

Going to go with the ultimate Mary sue. The one that puts all others to shame (yes, even Bella swan)

Spoiler: yes, I went there....

"Ebony "Enoby" Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way"

Not even sure if it counts due to how blatantly obvious it is, but I figured I would post it nontheless.....

Enjoy!

Goddamn it I just wiped my computer to get it to work properly and now after following your link I feel the need to wipe it again to cleanse it of the immense stupid..

captcha: don't dawdle - too damned right captcha

OT: the biggest Mary Sue, probably 'teh empra' before Horus beat the snot out of him and consigned him to 10,000 years of pain and sacrifice for the human race, although that still comes under the noble aspect of being a Mary Sue..

 

[Kuroneko97]

Ebony Dark?ness Dementia Raven Way from My Immortal.

You can tell she's a Mary Sue just by the name.

EDIT: FUCK I WAS NINJA'D. [small]Damn ninjas are everywhere...[/small]

 

[DementedSheep]

Which definition of sue are we going form? The uber awesome sue, the author insert sue or the world revolves around them sue?

Anita Blake. Wasn't too bad around the beginning but its much worse as the books go on. Everyone falls in love with her...everyone and for some reason the werewolf guy puts up with the dating multiple people thing for ages. The author keeps finding excuses for her to have to dress in leather mini dresses, she has scars everywhere apparently but this doesn?t seem to detract from her appearance, she manages to kill people she really really should not have been able to kill and she currently cursed in a way that makes her need to have sex all the time with multiple different people.

The book I?m currently reading (the way of kings) has Kalidan. He seems to be getting a bit better though but his first chapter was largely just people talking about how amazing he is. He is accused of a crime he didn?t commit and everyone around him keeps dying through no fault of his own so they can pile on angst. The world dose not revolve around him thou so he might not count.
All the other ones I can think of right now have already been mentioned

Ebony Dark?ness Dementia Raven Way from My Immortal.

You can tell she's a Mary Sue just by the name.

EDIT: FUCK I WAS NINJA'D. [small]Damn ninjas are everywhere...[/small]

I'm still not sure if that was meant to be a parody or not...
I just have trouble believing someone is that stupid. Maybe I just have too much faith in humanity.

 

[Byzantinium]

It's a sexist term, it is pointlessly gendered

Not really. It's named for a character in a parody Star Trek fanfiction from back in the 70's.

Wikipedia summarizes it better than I can:

"The term "Mary Sue" is from the name of a character created by Paula Smith in 1973 for her parody story "A Trekkie's Tale" published in her fanzine Menagerie #2. The story starred Lieutenant Mary Sue ("the youngest Lieutenant in the fleet ? only fifteen and a half years old"), and satirized unrealistic and adolescent wish-fantasy characters in Star Trek fan fiction. Such characters were generally original (non-canon) and female adolescents who had romantic liaisons with established canon adult characters, or in some cases were the younger relatives or protégés of those characters."

It's no more "pointlessly gendered" than calling somebody "Romeo" is.

 

[JayElleBee]

The main character from The Fades. I love that show but I hate the protagonist. Hate. I don't even remember his name. I just despise him so much. Everything about him just reeks of Sue-ism.

The black dude was awesome though. Same actor was in the best episode of Black Mirror too (watch it, blatant whoring for an awesome show here.)

Yeah, Mac was definitely the best character in it. Certainly the only one I didn't want to get eaten.

I've never heard of Black Mirror. I'll look it up some time.

 

[Stripes]

Shanks from One Piece. (spoilers ahead) Always partying, always fun, always friendly and pretty much universally liked by all (even people who are meant to be his enemies respect him). (major spoiler) He also stops an entire war, the greatest battle in the entire series, by showing up. The author even said he believes he is like Shanks. Maybe he might get deeper but right now he is THE mary sue.

 

[Infernai]

OT: River song of Doctor who is the best example from the top of my head. Granted, the Doctor is a bit of one at times but he's sort of meant to be given how much time in the series has passed for him to get to a level of skill like that.

Alucard for Hellsing is by far the worst Mary sue character I have ever seen.

he's so overpower I started rooting for the villains.

I don't think he really fully qualifies as Mary sue.

Ok, yeah, the guys powerful as all hell: But let's not forget he's Dracula after being experimented on for over a century to create the most powerful anti-undead weapon. If he WASN'T a super powered badass capable of ripping someone apart with just a flick of his wrist, i'd kind of want my money back on a centuries worth of experimentation..Also, he's practically a subversion of every single main character in anime ever.

What do i mean by this? Well, normally in an anime the main character will get beaten by a really powerful badguy. It is then through combination of friends, training and procurement of more powerful weapons/abilities that they must face down the new threat.
In hellsing though, eveyone got their scripts mixed up: The Main villains are pretty much at the level of the heroes at the start of an anime while the main character is effectively god of the universe. So, instead of the main character having to crawl back home and lick his wounds, he just completely destroys his enemies and crushes all shreds of hope they may have once had.

In some ways Alucard is a bit of an inversion as well: As i said, yes he's overpowered as all hell and he has absolutely no problems to worry about in a fight to the point of Mary Sueness. The difference? Alucard has realised this and, unlike most sues who would be happy with this level of power, he is utterly bored due to his powers making his life and conflicts so damned meaningless. He fights in the hope that there is someone who might just offer him a challenge or, better yet, even be able to innevitably defeat him. He doesn't even view immortality as that bad as most vampires do, but thinks it needs to be earned rather then taken (As he believes he did). Even then, most characters don't view alucard as a person so much as a walking, sentient weapon of mass destruction. Hell, Alucard was originally sealed up by his former master Arthur who believed he was "Too potent to be used too often"


Look, like anything you don't need to like Hellsing or Alucard, but at the same time i don't think he really qualifies for being too Mary-Sue: I mean yeah, he's powerful, but in terms of personality as a vampire he isn't some whining emo or some depressed immortal, he's completely batshit crazy and just wrecks shit up in the hopes of getting something to challenge him.
In retrospect he makes a more interesting character study then an actual character, but then Hellsing isn't exactly a series watched for it's story as much as it is for the ultra-violence and battles.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

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Seriously, I'd watch a spin-off of just what Rory was doing for those 2,000 years of guarding the Pandorica.

I would too. That would actually be a really cool show if they did it right. They can also have a cross over with that one inter-species lesbian couple from Victorian England. That'd be a good episode.

Don't forget the other Victorian lesbian couple from Torchwood:


Who knew exposure to aliens increased the percentage of non-heterosexual relationships?[footnote]Commander Shepard knew that.[/footnote]

I've never heard of Black Mirror. I'll look it up some time.

You really should, as should everyone else probably. I think the episode he's referring to is 15 Million Merits, and the entire series is available on 4OD if you're in the UK. If not... Well I wouldn't even know where to start looking, sorry. =/

 

[cahtush]

... I'm throwing Light Yagami out there. He just... did he fail? Up until the end of the show, did he fail at all? Cuz, just... yeah. Irritates me the nonsense he got away with.

He did fail pretty hard when L made his broadcast (that scene is the most epic I habe ever seen i an anime). After that nothing that he didin't fix right after.

 

[spartandude]

Marneus Calgar when written by matt ward. Seriously, what the hell.

i meet your Marneus Calgar and raise you the entire Grey Knight chapter, in both story and gameplay

 

[Durgiun]

Chakats.

Anyone who's into the furry subculture will most likely know who I'm talking about.

Basically, they're genetically engineered cat-taur things, they're hermaphrodites, but look female (D cup tits and all), are empathic, can give you super-pleasurable sex (it's furries, don't ask), are all super peaceful and nice and friendly unless you hurt their children, in which case they're stronger, faster, can heal better and can cause you crippling pain with their empathic abilities, their sense of smell is almost as good as a bloodhound's, their hearing superb as is their sense of smell, they can see slightly into the UV and can see almost every detail in what we consider to be pitch black, their tits are made up of a spongy-light tissue so the super big tits don't give them back pain, they're smart, they can give painless birth to children, they're awesome teachers due to their empathic abilities, and if you hate them (which I did and still somewhat do today) you're a horrible, biggoted, judemental person and need to be turned towards the sexy side ad infinitum.

I cannot tell you how much I hated those fucking things two years ago. Anyone remember AM's Hate monologue? I hated them damn near that much, I never hated something like them before or since.

Back in 2010, if my hatred for the Chakats was money, I could pay off a quarter of the US's debt then and there.

 

[Durgiun]

Alucard for Hellsing is by far the worst Mary sue character I have ever seen.

he's so overpower I started rooting for the villains.

I don't think he really fully qualifies as Mary sue.

Ok, yeah, the guys powerful as all hell: But let's not forget he's Dracula after being experimented on for over a century to create the most powerful anti-undead weapon. If he WASN'T a super powered badass capable of ripping someone apart with just a flick of his wrist, i'd kind of want my money back on a centuries worth of experimentation..Also, he's practically a subversion of every single main character in anime ever.

What do i mean by this? Well, normally in an anime the main character will get beaten by a really powerful badguy. It is then through combination of friends, training and procurement of more powerful weapons/abilities that they must face down the new threat.
In hellsing though, eveyone got their scripts mixed up: The Main villains are pretty much at the level of the heroes at the start of an anime while the main character is effectively god of the universe. So, instead of the main character having to crawl back home and lick his wounds, he just completely destroys his enemies and crushes all shreds of hope they may have once had.

In some ways Alucard is a bit of an inversion as well: As i said, yes he's overpowered as all hell and he has absolutely no problems to worry about in a fight to the point of Mary Sueness. The difference? Alucard has realised this and, unlike most sues who would be happy with this level of power, he is utterly bored due to his powers making his life and conflicts so damned meaningless. He fights in the hope that there is someone who might just offer him a challenge or, better yet, even be able to innevitably defeat him. He doesn't even view immortality as that bad as most vampires do, but thinks it needs to be earned rather then taken (As he believes he did). Even then, most characters don't view alucard as a person so much as a walking, sentient weapon of mass destruction. Hell, Alucard was originally sealed up by his former master Arthur who believed he was "Too potent to be used too often"


Look, like anything you don't need to like Hellsing or Alucard, but at the same time i don't think he really qualifies for being too Mary-Sue: I mean yeah, he's powerful, but in terms of personality as a vampire he isn't some whining emo or some depressed immortal, he's completely batshit crazy and just wrecks shit up in the hopes of getting something to challenge him.
In retrospect he makes a more interesting character study then an actual character, but then Hellsing isn't exactly a series watched for it's story as much as it is for the ultra-violence and battles.

Not once in the manga that I've read or in the OVA's did I ever see Alucard bored with his life. Maybe it's the lax writing, or the fans reading too much into something, but I honest to god never once witnessed Alucard bored with life or even lamenting something.

 

[Durgiun]

Now bereft of his companions, travelling a world that doesn't care about his moral standards and hanging out with 2 less-than-reputable beings that before he wouldn't have had a damn thing to do with. Growth is beyond a Mary Sue and Drizzt has grown... it just took him a long time cuz he's a damn elf.

Which books are those? I'm rather interested in reading them now?

 

[Blatherscythe]

Hey guys

Whats going on in this thread

Shut up, Wesley!

Ah, that scene makes it worth it.

Damn, I was going to post that juvenile abomination.

 

[Treblaine]

It's a sexist term, it is pointlessly gendered

Not really. It's named for a character in a parody Star Trek fanfiction from back in the 70's.

Wikipedia summarizes it better than I can:

"The term "Mary Sue" is from the name of a character created by Paula Smith in 1973 for her parody story "A Trekkie's Tale" published in her fanzine Menagerie #2. The story starred Lieutenant Mary Sue ("the youngest Lieutenant in the fleet ? only fifteen and a half years old"), and satirized unrealistic and adolescent wish-fantasy characters in Star Trek fan fiction. Such characters were generally original (non-canon) and female adolescents who had romantic liaisons with established canon adult characters, or in some cases were the younger relatives or protégés of those characters."

It's no more "pointlessly gendered" than calling somebody "Romeo" is.

Yeah, she was way too much like Captain Kirk but lacked a penis. She was doomed from the start.

The wikipedia article is utterly damning in it's criticism of the Mary Sue label.

I've always found the "Mary Sue" label a fallacious criticism that depends more on people's prejudices against deviating from norms than genuine desire for good characters. So if a character is all amazing but in a traditional way like 30-something white-male with dark hair and a straight conservative sex life then it's fine.

James Bond has been immune to this for the best part of 60 years as are all the other male action leads from Indiana Jones to Batman. I remind you at Mary Sue's age Captain Kirk was being "unrealistic and adolescent wish-fantasy" is Starfleet beating unbeatable tests, going to advanced training, graduating in top percent, becoming Starfleet's youngest Captain. Yet the trope is not called a Captain Kirk, it's called a Mary Sue.

The story where she featured was only ten paragraphs long, yet so many latch onto this catch-all concept that an empowered woman is inherently bad writing.

No one rants about the idea of "romeos" like they do with Mary Sues. And I wouldn't use that term, I'd use the term "narcissistic" which is a clear and isn't for any specific gender.

 

[Furioso]

OT: Artemis Fowl from... Artemis Fowl, the kid is just unbeatable (still enjoyed the book back in the day though)

I never really thought of him as a Mary Sue (at least in the books I've read, 1-6). He seems to at least stick mainly to being the Chessmaster, planning and using the rules of his verse in improvising. In order to be a blatant Mary Sue you'd have to combine him and his body guard into one character at least even if magic and technology are withheld. As is he is debatable.

Oh good point I completely forgot his physical weaknesses, yea if he and his body guard (who isn't dumb either) were combined it would be the Mary Sue to out Sue all other Mary Sues

 

[Justin1221]

I got a question: Doesn't Alice from the Resident Evil movies count as a Mary Sue?

She isn't in any of the original games (as far as I've read), she's sexy and badass, she's abnormally fast and strong, has incredible reflexes, and she's the main protagonist of a series she doesn't even originally belong in.

I most likely got half of it wrong, though.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Chakats.

Anyone who's into the furry subculture will most likely know who I'm talking about.

Basically, they're genetically engineered cat-taur things, they're hermaphrodites, but look female (D cup tits and all), are empathic, can give you super-pleasurable sex (it's furries, don't ask), are all super peaceful and nice and friendly unless you hurt their children, in which case they're stronger, faster, can heal better and can cause you crippling pain with their empathic abilities, their sense of smell is almost as good as a bloodhound's, their hearing superb as is their sense of smell, they can see slightly into the UV and can see almost every detail in what we consider to be pitch black, their tits are made up of a spongy-light tissue so the super big tits don't give them back pain, they're smart, they can give painless birth to children, they're awesome teachers due to their empathic abilities, and if you hate them (which I did and still somewhat do today) you're a horrible, biggoted, judemental person and need to be turned towards the sexy side ad infinitum.

I cannot tell you how much I hated those fucking things two years ago. Anyone remember AM's Hate monologue? I hated them damn near that much, I never hated something like them before or since.

Back in 2010, if my hatred for the Chakats was money, I could pay off a quarter of the US's debt then and there.

Oh god why did you make me remember those abominations! *vomits*

 

[Justin1221]

So. Why don't you hate Chakats now?

 

[jimbob123432]

Jace from Magic: the Gathering. Seriously, the only way he could be more Christ-like is if they crucify him in the next set.