Mass Effect 2 & Dragon Age 2- no canon endings

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Loop Stricken

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Bourne said:
Frankly I am disappointed Bioware did not allow the return of the previous cast.
Oh, they're all in there. Just not recruitable.

And the ME files is mostly for the history importing, the custom Shepards you've built, and some unknown bonuses for the powerlevellers.
 

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Amnestic said:
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Amnestic said:
Well Soldier being default - yes, I can see that. But the Council dying?

I gotta question the defaultness of that, at least.
Like you, I was also surprised. But apparently, yes. I'm right now going to postulate that he decided to save more lives by not risking the Alliance fleet to save the Council. And for neutrality's sake (as if a Paragon/Renegade siding was mentioned, I have forgotten it), the fact that the majority of lives were human presumably won't enter into it.
As a Spectre sworn to defend the Council and the races (all of them) that fall under that banner, I'd like to think Shepard saved the Council.

But maybe it's just because I preferred running with my alien teammates rather than xenophobic cow Ashley and whinyboy Kaiden.
My character loved his alien mercenaries however the Council was irritating. He would have no qualms with Garrus as a Spectre and a Turian Council member.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
Bourne said:
Frankly I am disappointed Bioware did not allow the return of the previous cast.
Oh, they're all in there. Just not recruitable.
Exactly, although Tali is indeed recruitable and rumors about suggest Garrus could potentially be another. While the loss of Wrex is disheartening, Garrus is a suitable consolation prize. Pay no mind to me however I am merely irked I cannot reestablish my mercenary posse.
 

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They are including certine major things that happened or others like the fan from Mass Effect
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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jamesworkshop said:
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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
I don't see it happening in Dragon Age. Especially if...

Your character dies
I don't recall..

My character dying!

Which I haven't played an ending without the whole Morrigan deal, so I'm assuming it opposite if you turn down her deal?
I did her deal and survived
You kill the archdemon and die

You tell Alistair to kill the archdemon and HE dies

You tell Loghain to kill the archdemon and HE dies

You have a baby with morrigan (or get someone else to do it if you are female) and survive
 

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Mass Effect 2 has 2 default starters for a male and female shepard.
I think they also havo options depending if you went with colonist/solo survivor etcetera.

So it is not "real" canon but more "default choices"
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
jamesworkshop said:
ansem1532 said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
I don't see it happening in Dragon Age. Especially if...

Your character dies
I don't recall..

My character dying!

Which I haven't played an ending without the whole Morrigan deal, so I'm assuming it opposite if you turn down her deal?
I did her deal and survived
You kill the archdemon and die

You tell Alistair to kill the archdemon and HE dies

You tell Loghain to kill the archdemon and HE dies

You have a baby with morrigan (or get someone else to do it if you are female) and survive
Wait, you have to have sex in order to survive? This game does not mess around....
 

Amnestic

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Bourne said:
Amnestic said:
Loop Stricken said:
Amnestic said:
Well Soldier being default - yes, I can see that. But the Council dying?

I gotta question the defaultness of that, at least.
Like you, I was also surprised. But apparently, yes. I'm right now going to postulate that he decided to save more lives by not risking the Alliance fleet to save the Council. And for neutrality's sake (as if a Paragon/Renegade siding was mentioned, I have forgotten it), the fact that the majority of lives were human presumably won't enter into it.
As a Spectre sworn to defend the Council and the races (all of them) that fall under that banner, I'd like to think Shepard saved the Council.

But maybe it's just because I preferred running with my alien teammates rather than xenophobic cow Ashley and whinyboy Kaiden.
My character loved his alien mercenaries however the Council was irritating. He would have no qualms with Garrus as a Spectre and a Turian Council member.
Upon replaying it, I felt a lot more sympathy towards the Council. Yeah, they stonewalled you on the Reapers but that's because all they had was one Spectre's word and head-visions to go on. Bear in mind these Councillors hold trillions of lives and likely hundreds of planets under their domain. It's not as if they can make decisions lightly.

They needed evidence, and not once did Shepard offer them any. He offered hearsay and postulations and what may as well have counted for dreams. While you as the player had plenty of informaton on the Reapers - such as the conversation you had with Sovereign on Virmire - the Council didn't. I couldn't blame them for not listening to me.

Although I do have to wonder if the Asari council member could have done that mind-merge thingy with Shepard to get said information.

Loop Stricken said:
Yes, but the needs of the many and all that.
And huzzah! I'm not the only person who thought that of those two. When the opportunity came, I wanted them BOTH to die.
Not sure on the numbers, but I like to think that saving the Council was for the needs of the many. Human soldier lives may have been lost saving them, but in the long run it'll offer better, stronger leadership.

That's also why I twigged Ambassador Udina for a place on the Council rather than Captain (or is it 'Admiral' now?) Anderson. He's better at playing politics.

I normally kill Ashley when I get the opportunity. If you haven't helped Wrex out before Virmine she can shoot him without even the slightest provocation or signal from Shepard. She kills Wrex, Shepard's one true love.

:(

On a sidenote: I want Lorik Qui'in to come back. He was always a cool Turian. Especially his "Let me go? Do humans consider conversation to be some form of imprisonment?" line.
 

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Saving opinion until more than one game is released. Let's just see what happens with Mass Effect 2.
And KOTOR does not count because it changed companies.
 

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There's no canon because this is a branching story - the only canon is the one you make for yourself.

They've worked it out, pretty much every choice is logged from your old save file - by ME3 we're all going to be playing on such wildly different tangents there'll be hours of content that many will likely never see, due to so many possible combinations.
 

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With DA2, I don't see what you do in DA mattering all that much. I mean, honestly, all that can go from there is dealing with a different Blight in a different time.

With the defeat of Urthemiel, the next blight won't happen for quite a while. So the effects of DA will likely be forgotten in the sands of time. Well, except -maybe- one of the Old Gods of Tevinter will be out and about, but that may or may not be important in the grand scale of things.

Regardless, there's still two Old Gods left to Blight it up, and the series hasn't exactly explained if the Old Gods of Tevinter were responsible for setting the Second Sin in motion (Thereby meaning they aren't actually corrupted by the darkspawn, but it's all just part of their plan) or if they were not party to the fall of the Golden City.
 

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DracoSuave said:
With DA2, I don't see what you do in DA mattering all that much. I mean, honestly, all that can go from there is dealing with a different Blight in a different time.

With the defeat of Urthemiel, the next blight won't happen for quite a while. So the effects of DA will likely be forgotten in the sands of time. Well, except -maybe- one of the Old Gods of Tevinter will be out and about, but that may or may not be important in the grand scale of things.

Regardless, there's still two Old Gods left to Blight it up, and the series hasn't exactly explained if the Old Gods of Tevinter were responsible for setting the Second Sin in motion (Thereby meaning they aren't actually corrupted by the darkspawn, but it's all just part of their plan) or if they were not party to the fall of the Golden City.
Maybe the next one won't even take place in Ferelden, and most of your big choices seemed to affect just the few cities in Ferelden.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
DracoSuave said:
With DA2, I don't see what you do in DA mattering all that much. I mean, honestly, all that can go from there is dealing with a different Blight in a different time.

With the defeat of Urthemiel, the next blight won't happen for quite a while. So the effects of DA will likely be forgotten in the sands of time. Well, except -maybe- one of the Old Gods of Tevinter will be out and about, but that may or may not be important in the grand scale of things.

Regardless, there's still two Old Gods left to Blight it up, and the series hasn't exactly explained if the Old Gods of Tevinter were responsible for setting the Second Sin in motion (Thereby meaning they aren't actually corrupted by the darkspawn, but it's all just part of their plan) or if they were not party to the fall of the Golden City.
Maybe the next one won't even take place in Ferelden, and most of your big choices seemed to affect just the few cities in Ferelden.
Yeah, exactly.

I mean, really. I can't exactly see the next game being 'The continuing adventures of The Grey Warden against something that is somehow worse than a Blight.'
 

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Loop Stricken said:
Mass Effect 2 comes on two discs. It's huge.
Worry not.
One wonders if Mass Effect 3 will be on 3 discs...
It would make for a nice increment no?
 

Amnestic

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Maybe the next one won't even take place in Ferelden, and most of your big choices seemed to affect just the few cities in Ferelden.
Fingers crossed for Orlais. I loved Leliana's accent.