Mass Effect 2: Lair of the Shadow Broker trailer - DLC launches 07.09.10

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Sniper Team 4

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I'm still betting the Shadow Broker is, or knows something about, Liara's "father". Mass Effect enjoys giving players the option to choose between good and evil, and I'm betting this DLC will have a choice at the end.

The Shadow Broker is up against a wall, so he pulls out a trump card on Liara: Spare me, and I'll tell you about your father. Liara already lost her mother, and this would probably floor her. However, she's spent the past two years thirsting for revenge. Unable to decide what to do, she turns to you for help.
Good option: Convince her to spare S.B., as they can probably find him again, but this is the only chance Liara will get to know her "father".
Bad option: Kill S.B. Liara gets revenge, but looses her chance at knowing her family.

Or I could be completely wrong. Still, BioWare threw in that line in Mass Effect that Liara never knew her "father", and I just can't let that go (BioWare doesn't throw in useless stuff). Who better to have knowledge of a long lost relative than someone who's entire life is based on info?
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
I'm still betting the Shadow Broker is, or knows something about, Liara's "father". Mass Effect enjoys giving players the option to choose between good and evil, and I'm betting this DLC will have a choice at the end.

The Shadow Broker is up against a wall, so he pulls out a trump card on Liara: Spare me, and I'll tell you about your father. Liara already lost her mother, and this would probably floor her. However, she's spent the past two years thirsting for revenge. Unable to decide what to do, she turns to you for help.
Good option: Convince her to spare S.B., as they can probably find him again, but this is the only chance Liara will get to know her "father".
Bad option: Kill S.B. Liara gets revenge, but looses her chance at knowing her family.

Or I could be completely wrong. Still, BioWare threw in that line in Mass Effect that Liara never knew her "father", and I just can't let that go (BioWare doesn't throw in useless stuff). Who better to have knowledge of a long lost relative than someone who's entire life is based on info?
EDIT: Sorry, I'm tired and completely misread the opening sentence.

But would Bioware really go the Empire Strikes Back route?
 

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six moar days...Till Mass effect DLC...Six Moar days till final day of being a Grey warden...FIVE MOAR MONTHS TILL ME2 HIS PS3.

*Crying*
EDIT:

I'm saying six more days till each series get a DLC.

BBut a few months till I'll play ME2 For PS3.
 

Escapefromwhatever

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Cerberus gave him information on how to find The Shadow Broker. Yay, more continuity errors.
My Shepard broke away from Cerberus at the end of ME2, as I'm guessing a lot of other people's did as well. Incidentally, "Joker, lose this line" was enormously badass.
 
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mraustindude19 said:
Liara's voice,For some reason reminded me of Lightning from FF13.

PS:Holy Cow we can drive a future car,i'm so going to pretend i'm play a futurama game.
Maybe that's because they're voiced by the same person.
 

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Lacsapix said:
Finally we get to know who the shadow broker is!
but I did I really saw a flying vehicle mission there?! that is not what I expected from holy Bioware.
Hehe, pardon the corny reference but it'll prob like Dr. Claw on Inspector Gadget. We'll see his hand. XD
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
mraustindude19 said:
Liara's voice,For some reason reminded me of Lightning from FF13.

PS:Holy Cow we can drive a future car,i'm so going to pretend i'm play a futurama game.
Maybe that's because they're voiced by the same person.
Pardon me while I go crap a few bricks.....
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Am I the only one who is annoyed by them taking a fairly significant plot point and apparently ending it in a DLC? I feel like I'm missing out, but I don't want to make a new character just for DLC.
I'm hoping - and this is a fool's hope, I'm sure - that this only gets you closer to the Shadow Broker, and at most you find out their identity. I imagine something like the Zaeed mission, where you can choose to chase him/her or save crew, etc. Either way, there seems like there are far too many excellent possibilities that can be spun off of this character/story, so I too would be miffed to see them wrap it up and put a neat little bow on it in a single DLC episode.

And c'mon Kraken, you should know better. You're never the only one.
 

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It has been so long since ME2 was released, I am not sure I will care until ME3.

And then, if they part out huge parts of the story into DLC instead of giving me a fucking full game, then I might not even buy that.

I am getting pretty sick of this buy the game for full price, but only really get 1/4 of the game thing.
Because the narrative of ME2 was somehow incomplete without the DLC?

This same argument is often leveled against Bioware games. Was my DA:O experience incomplete because I didn't give a toss about how Leliana came to be in the chantry? Was it somehow broken when I didn't have a rock monster to follow me around? Was the fact that the game ended after I defeated the villain of the moment and scattered his armies somehow not a proper end?

By the same token, did I really need a grizled mercenary to follow me around? Did I need bad driving segments to rear their ugly head? Did I actually need Liara to make a return when I never cared about her character and her power set was easily replicated elsewhere?

Personally, I was perfectly satisfied with ME2 as it was. The DLC that I tried added little of note to the game and I even completed the game in it's entirety without it the first time around feeling as though I hadn't missed anything important. I know there is a fine line between "added bonus" and "shameful grab for cash" but I've never perceived Bioware's actions as anything other than the former.
 

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A Mad Monk 2 said:
where ash williams?
Not on the team thankfully, the ungrateful, alien hating boot that she is... Probably still sucking up to Alliance command like she doesn't know what's good for her.

Sorry, got a bit carried away there.

Anyway, was already planning on downloading this anyway. Don't need much convincing when it comes to ME DLC like this.
 

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Looks great, wish i hadn't already sold the game
Jark212 said:
Looks amazing, can't wait to get it on my 360...
Nothing to do with the thread I just wanted to ask, what is your avatar?
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Am I the only one who is annoyed by them taking a fairly significant plot point and apparently ending it in a DLC? I feel like I'm missing out, but I don't want to make a new character just for DLC.
Actually yeah, I find it a little annoying too. But I'm going to get it because I've been crazy curious since that Volus on the Citadel told me about him in ME1.
 

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Eclectic Dreck said:
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By the same token, did I really need a grizled mercenary to follow me around? Did I need bad driving segments to rear their ugly head? Did I actually need Liara to make a return when I never cared about her character and her power set was easily replicated elsewhere?

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Shepard dealing with the most important and powerful information dealer in the entire galaxy, as stated in both ME1 and 2, is a pretty major plot point, dude.
 

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Furious Styles said:
Looks great, wish i hadn't already sold the game
Jark212 said:
Looks amazing, can't wait to get it on my 360...
Nothing to do with the thread I just wanted to ask, what is your avatar?
The Frog of Eternal Happiness...

May his light shine upon you!!!
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
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By the same token, did I really need a grizled mercenary to follow me around? Did I need bad driving segments to rear their ugly head? Did I actually need Liara to make a return when I never cared about her character and her power set was easily replicated elsewhere?

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Shepard dealing with the most important and powerful information dealer in the entire galaxy, as stated in both ME1 and 2, is a pretty major plot point, dude.
It is only an important plot point if the confrontation has the power to alter the main narrative thread. Cracking the enigma code in WW2 wasn't important because it was a hard code to crack but rather because that development helped change the course of the war. More to the real point (that is, my refutation of the idea that not including this "in the box" somehow resulted in an "incomplete" game), a confrontation with the Shadowbroker need not alter in any significant way the narrative arc of ME2.

Put briefly, here is the story. You wake up in a bad spot short on skills and allies. A grand threat is revealed. You gather allies and strengthen your abilities until the odds of success seem reasonable. You confront and defeat the threat.

That arc is neatly self contained. One can add extra bits around the edges and improve the overall experience but so long as that core is maintained, you are given a complete story from start to finish. My point is simply this: the game did not need any of the bits of DLC in order to tell this story. Adding a character to the team does not alter this story. It just because "the team + 1 does something" rather than "the team does something". The shadow broker may indeed impact a new arc somewhere down the line, but that doesn't mean it would alter our tale thus far. Just as important, I don't expect Liara will get to join the team anyhow as Bioware once asserted the reason Ashley and Liara were not team members was simply because it was possible that they would die and they had better uses for them in the 3rd game.

My perspective on this is simple enough. Each piece of DLC adds to the experience of ME2. The assertion I resent is the view that each piece of DLC diminishes the experience of ME2.
 

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MrSnugglesworth said:
suhlEap said:
RebellionXXI said:
I'll bet the shadow broker is an A.I.
seconded.

i will be getting this i think, but it'd better be worth the 800 points...
I don't think so.

I think it will be something no ones ever thought of.

Like Liara!


Or... YOOOOUUU!
nah it won't be liara, why would she be researching herself in ME2? i'm sticking to the A.I. idea, maybe it's real name will be john henry eden...
 

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Hmm... I didn't really honor my relationship with Liara through ME2..... Sooo i'm kinda scared that she might cut my balls off and selling them to a Krogan.