Mass Effect 2 Suicide Mission Strange Outcome

[The Arc of Eden]

Sounds like your game just got bored... Oh shit! it's thinking for itself! Kill it, take out the disc and kill it now!

 

[Yarpie]

Either the game bugged out or you forgot something. I'd say the prime suspect is that you didn't get the ship armor upgrade from Jacob. To my knowledge it does not show up on the list of upgrades unless you ask him about it. If you don't have it then a character will get the axe (the intergalactic super mega death kind) when approaching the base.

I got all my team members through on my first try. I had every single ship upgrade available and everyone aside from Zaeed were loyal (he didn't appreciate me punching him in the face). Here's my set up:

Fire Team Leader 1: Miranda
Vents: Tali
(Team: Garrus, Mordin)
Fire Team Leader 2: Miranda again
Barrier: Samara
(Team: Garrus, Mordin)
Escort: Jacob
Team against final boss: Garrus, Miranda

Everyone made it through fine. So yeah, if what you are saying is true then the game screwed with you, however I'd say it's more likely that you missed something along the way.

 

[Boba Frag]

Didn't lose anyone except Zaeed and *gulp* Tali.... just a minute there's something in my eye...

*pats on the shoulder*

Poor Tali

I brought her on my team for the entire mission just to make sure she'd be ok... which she was!
Poor Legion bought it closing the door for me.
I had Sammara lead the first fire team, Garrus the next, and then Samarra again (to keep Miranda and Jack from bitching at each other)

Also, I used jack as the bubble shield. I figured she was naff enough at combat but her biotics were really good... Sammara was a logical leadership choice.

Again... Poor Tali :'(

Samara is NOT a valid leadership choice. She is a legendary figure, being a justicar, but in all her missions, she works solo, and has never given tactical orders. The only suitable leaders are Miranda, Jacob, and Garrus.

Wow, this is an old thread...

And, sorry, but it still worked.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

Wow, this is an old thread...

And, sorry, but it still worked.

Actually, it didn't work. Legion died because Samara was not a good leader for the fire team. Miranda, Jacob or Garrus are the ones that should lead the fire teams. If one of them lead, Legion would not have died closing the door.

 

[ctrl]

i did it twice

1st lost jack, was fine lost legion reset mission.
2nd all survived

 

[osg87]

Or maybe not long enough. The whole final scene is an epic scene to be sure. There is the speech and the sheer Level of importance of the mission itself. In a movie its the scene thats supposed to make you tingle with anticipation which i did. I'm a sucker for a great great action sequence. Its a concept of demanding teams loyalty and picking purely the right person for each job as a good leader should. PLUS this is a heavy game in which if you don't pick all the right choices you cant even max out paragon or renegade anyways right? So 1 little mistake you might make in the beginning of the game ends up being the very reason at the far end of the game after mining every fucking planet dry the only reason you can't get either miranda or jack Back on your side is because you wanted to shoot a t/v in the beginning. So i think you idea is probably the right one.

 

[mxfox408]

My playthrough I had Garus lead team two both times Legion walk the vents, Samara as the biotic and Grunt escort the crew, for my team in the final fight I took Tali and Mordin and everyone lived. I had all ship upgrades, all weapon and armor upgrades and all special upgrades not to mention all of them are Loyal.

 

[Kavonde]

I actually got everyone through alive on my first playthrough, with Garrus leading the fire team both times, Tali going through the vents, Samarra on bubble shield duty, and Zaeed escorting the crew. Then I took Tali and Thane for the boss. Shepard: 2, Reapers: 0.

I read in a BioWare interview that the survival of your crew members on the distraction team is basically determined by the group's total combat strength. If you have enough combat-focused characters holding the line (like Grunt, Samarra, Garrus, and Legion), they'll do enough damage to keep the weaker characters (Mordin and Tali) alive. So you actually benefit from taking less useful characters into the final battle.

Granted, I didn't know that going in...I just really like Thane and Tali.

 

[SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness]

i only lost mirandsa on my 1st playthrough cos she acted like a *****. on my 2nd playthrogh, she survived becasue i did her loyalty mission. im on my 3rd playthrough and BADLY need more side quest to boost my paragon level to max and im 95% paragon ARG

 

[Boba Frag]

Wow, this is an old thread...

And, sorry, but it still worked.

Actually, it didn't work. Legion died because Samara was not a good leader for the fire team. Miranda, Jacob or Garrus are the ones that should lead the fire teams. If one of them lead, Legion would not have died closing the door.

I honestly could not care less. I finished the game months ago.

 

[TPiddy]

There are actually 4 upgrades for the ship, and one of them you get from Jacob. Since he was not loyal I'm assuming that you didn't have that upgrade, which would explain the Jack death.

As for the others, Miranda has weak defense, so if you took the strong defenders with you (Garrus, Grunt or Zaeed) then the remaining party is weaker as a result. This is often the reason why Mordin dies as well.

I did manage to get a no-one left behind playthrough, but I had one playthrough where 4 people died, including Grunt who was carried away by insects. I was so sad

 

[Sronpop]

Mordin was the only one to die for me, I let him stay on the distraction team and sent garrus back with the crew, I figured they would need a strong person to protect them, I was wrong. Second playthrough I just swapped and everyone survived, YAY!

There are some weird combination's of things that's can go wrong, aparently it is possible to survive with all but one teammate. As long as at least one person you bring to the final fight with you is loyal, you can make it out alive. So if you only had garrus loyal, and you always had garrus on your team, you and garrus would pretty much be the only survivors, I can't confirm this though, this is second had info, but still. The awesome thing? You can carry on your game like that, as long as Shepard survives, you can import him.

I really really wanted to save everyone since I fucking love them all, awesome characters, why did mordin have to die first time around.

 

[Altorin]

you didn't have the proper upgrades to the ship - Jack ALWAYS dies if you don't.

Legion or Miranda was not loyal. My money's on Miranda.

Not too strange. You can actually LOST loyalty of both of those characters if you choose Jack or Tali over them in their arguments.

 

[godofallu]

You shouldn't use Miranda to lead the fire teams, and you shouldn't have sent Tali to go back.

So you made 3 mistakes during the ending mission.

Also you only lose a character if you didn't buy the super upgraded shields for the ship. You say you did, but you clearly didn't. Oh and you needed to buy the upgraded scanner and gas tank too.

PS: Garrus leads the teams, and grunt goes back is the correct choice.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

Wow, this is an old thread...

And, sorry, but it still worked.

Actually, it didn't work. Legion died because Samara was not a good leader for the fire team. Miranda, Jacob or Garrus are the ones that should lead the fire teams. If one of them lead, Legion would not have died closing the door.

I honestly could not care less. I finished the game months ago.

I figured as much. But I decided to tell you just in case.

 

[Omnific One]

Each character has their own "hold the line score", which determines if they can survive holding the line. Loyalty and character upgrades boost this score. So you don't necessarily need loyalty to survive holding the line. An unloyal Grunt with the claymore shotgun can hold the line by himself. The lower the team's overall score the more likely someone is to bite a bullet. The "squishy" members die first, which include Mordin, Tali, and Miranda (I think). So Jacob didn't die because he is a better defender than Miranda.

Also if Legion died in the vents then Miranda must have been unloyal.

No, Miranda is one of the least squishy (from what I've read). She should not have died. However, if you don't have every single thing right in ME2, it's kinda hard to predict the outcome.

 

[jephrox]

I just completed the Mass Effect 2 game. I did all the ship enhancements and upgrades and even powered up all my team members. During the Suicide Mission, these are the people I chose:

Miranda (FTL 1)
Tali (vent)
Grunt (escort)
Samara (biotic shield)
Miranda (FTL 2)
During the battles, it was Garrus/Legion or Garrus/Jacob

Then Tali died as she was trying to close the doors, it got stuck and she got shot!
Then Garrus died as we headed to the entry way while Samara was the biotic shield. Samara felt weak with her shield so Shepard had to help her up, but they got Garrus. (He was my 2nd favorite team member).

Then on the final battle I chose Miranda and Jacob, before we boarded the ship; it showed that both Samara and Jack died. I was crushed. I don't know how this happened. I did all their loyalty missions.

 

[Elfgore]

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