Mass Effect 3 Beta Leak

[SpaceMedarotterX]

Spoiler: Squadmate info from latest story leak

Garrus: Lives no matter what. Is strictly your bro, never leaves your side.
Liara: You choose if she dies. After fighting Kai Leng, Liara and Ash/Kaidan are crippled. You can only save one.
Ash/Kaidan: Persuasion check or you kill him/her, THEN you choose if s/he dies. Kai Leng turns them against you, you have to talk them out of killing you. After fighting Kai Leng, Liara and Ash/Kaidan are both crippled. You can only save one.
Wrex: Lives no matter what. Only with you on Tuchanka and Surkesh, saving the female Krogan.
Tali: You choose if she dies. Flotilla assaulting Rannoch, geth under Reaper control no matter what you chose in ME2. Choice between helping quarians or helping geth.
Mordin: Dies no matter what. Releases genophage cure on Tuchanka, falls to death once done.
Thane: Dies no matter what. Lung condition catches up with him after he kills an indoctrinated Councilman Udina.
Jack: Lives no matter what. Teaches at the Alliance biotic academy. Can choose to have her safeguard students, or lead them into battle. Leading them into battle results in dead children and insane Jack.
Legion: Dies no matter what. Flotilla assaulting Rannoch, geth under Reaper control no matter what you chose in ME2. Legion sacrifices himself to break the geth collective free of Reaper control.
Samara: You choose if she dies. Her other two Ardat Yakshi daughters are being held captive and used to create special asari husks. You save one, the other must be put down. Samara can't bear to kill the last of her children, so you must either kill her yourself or kill Samara.

This latest leak is brilliantly hilarious. Do not worry about your choices in ME1+2 as the leak shows they mean bugger all to ME3.

If thats true then dear god, I cant help but laugh. Boware makea big deal about importing, and "your story" then do tht, add in the horrible writing and the factthey retcon the shit out of everything. Gameplay is average at best. Get praied for their writing. The we see this. How the fuck are they poular and able to make games ?

Link to source please. God I hope its true, even their mst rabid fans wont be able to defend that haha.

Would be surprised what most rabid fanboys would defend,must say, oddly enough gameplay improved from Mass Effect 2. Pick up new guns, weapon selection always a plus, and weapon mods are back. However, need for ammunition still silly. Should have done it like a normal RPG, guns have unlimited ammo with cool down, can equip special ammunition that uses specialized heat clips, best of both worlds.

Overall, improvment on the second, still wont buy, trust in bioware... cautious at best.

Source here, http://pastebin.com/8skNMSMk , Bioware confirmed leak as real claimed 'wasn't finallized' translation 'please don't spoil our game' rarely game enters Beta stage without the story complete.

Leak lines up with information 'Fired Bio Employee' said on /v/, possibly lucky guess, FBE did mostly talk about Dragon Age, only mentioned that Mass Effect 3 would conclude, but hold an unsatisfactory plot point, again, possibly lucky guess. Will monitor sources further.

Fired Bio Employee, claimed to be a Bioware programmer who 'If caught would be fired' released plot details about Dragon Age 3 and answered questions on series as whole, Supposedly Flemeth is not going to be the Big Bad, but rather the Big Good, similar to Andraste, and because of Sandal. Still unverified source, seems silly, will monitor.

Oddly enough, not a troll, just a prick. That is to say, oddly enough, I am not a troll, I'm just a prick.

Spoiler: Samara mission summary

MISSION SUMMARY: Shepard and party search the asari monastery for the two Ardat-Yakshi being used to create the Banshee Reaper enemies. He finds they are Samara's daughters, and if she is alive, she is resolved to get them out of here. This place shows the horrors of Reaper occupation -- they have turned the daughters into biotic murder machines and stitched together asari into monsters. Shepard gets the youngest daughter out but her elder sister sacrifices herself to stop the hordes of Banshees from claiming any more victims. Once the team has time to breathe, Shepard and Samara realize that even the youngest daughter is a threat -- though noble, she is still addicted to the power rush of Ardat-Yakshi feeding, and she can't live here in isolation any more. Shepard must decide -- can she be trusted to be let loose on the galaxy, or will Samara kill her last surviving daughter as her Code demands?

And the endings, well a bare base look at the endings, basically the final 6 ways the end of game plays out. and yes, I did not make a mistake there are 6 ways, though granted it's really 2 ways with a variation on each

Spoiler: THE GAMES ENDINGS, THERE ARE 6, DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU SERIOUSLY WANT TO KNOW HOW IT ENDS

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard places his hands into the control mechanism and gains control over the Reapers. Earth is destroyed, and the Reapers leave.

CUTSCENE:


The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is also Destroyed.


CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard places his hands into the control mechanism and gains control over the Reapers. Earth is okay, and the Reapers leave.

CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is devastated.

CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is okay.

CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is okay. Shepard survives.

 

[SpaceMedarotterX]

Spoiler: Squadmate info from latest story leak

Garrus: Lives no matter what. Is strictly your bro, never leaves your side.
Liara: You choose if she dies. After fighting Kai Leng, Liara and Ash/Kaidan are crippled. You can only save one.
Ash/Kaidan: Persuasion check or you kill him/her, THEN you choose if s/he dies. Kai Leng turns them against you, you have to talk them out of killing you. After fighting Kai Leng, Liara and Ash/Kaidan are both crippled. You can only save one.
Wrex: Lives no matter what. Only with you on Tuchanka and Surkesh, saving the female Krogan.
Tali: You choose if she dies. Flotilla assaulting Rannoch, geth under Reaper control no matter what you chose in ME2. Choice between helping quarians or helping geth.
Mordin: Dies no matter what. Releases genophage cure on Tuchanka, falls to death once done.
Thane: Dies no matter what. Lung condition catches up with him after he kills an indoctrinated Councilman Udina.
Jack: Lives no matter what. Teaches at the Alliance biotic academy. Can choose to have her safeguard students, or lead them into battle. Leading them into battle results in dead children and insane Jack.
Legion: Dies no matter what. Flotilla assaulting Rannoch, geth under Reaper control no matter what you chose in ME2. Legion sacrifices himself to break the geth collective free of Reaper control.
Samara: You choose if she dies. Her other two Ardat Yakshi daughters are being held captive and used to create special asari husks. You save one, the other must be put down. Samara can't bear to kill the last of her children, so you must either kill her yourself or kill Samara.

This latest leak is brilliantly hilarious. Do not worry about your choices in ME1+2 as the leak shows they mean bugger all to ME3.

If thats true then dear god, I cant help but laugh. Boware makea big deal about importing, and "your story" then do tht, add in the horrible writing and the factthey retcon the shit out of everything. Gameplay is average at best. Get praied for their writing. The we see this. How the fuck are they poular and able to make games ?

Link to source please. God I hope its true, even their mst rabid fans wont be able to defend that haha.

Would be surprised what most rabid fanboys would defend,must say, oddly enough gameplay improved from Mass Effect 2. Pick up new guns, weapon selection always a plus, and weapon mods are back. However, need for ammunition still silly. Should have done it like a normal RPG, guns have unlimited ammo with cool down, can equip special ammunition that uses specialized heat clips, best of both worlds.

Overall, improvment on the second, still wont buy, trust in bioware... cautious at best.

Source here, http://pastebin.com/8skNMSMk , Bioware confirmed leak as real claimed 'wasn't finallized' translation 'please don't spoil our game' rarely game enters Beta stage without the story complete.

Leak lines up with information 'Fired Bio Employee' said on /v/, possibly lucky guess, FBE did mostly talk about Dragon Age, only mentioned that Mass Effect 3 would conclude, but hold an unsatisfactory plot point, again, possibly lucky guess. Will monitor sources further.

Fired Bio Employee, claimed to be a Bioware programmer who 'If caught would be fired' released plot details about Dragon Age 3 and answered questions on series as whole, Supposedly Flemeth is not going to be the Big Bad, but rather the Big Good, similar to Andraste, and because of Sandal. Still unverified source, seems silly, will monitor.

Oddly enough, not a troll, just a prick. That is to say, oddly enough, I am not a troll, I'm just a prick.

Spoiler: Samara mission summary

MISSION SUMMARY: Shepard and party search the asari monastery for the two Ardat-Yakshi being used to create the Banshee Reaper enemies. He finds they are Samara's daughters, and if she is alive, she is resolved to get them out of here. This place shows the horrors of Reaper occupation -- they have turned the daughters into biotic murder machines and stitched together asari into monsters. Shepard gets the youngest daughter out but her elder sister sacrifices herself to stop the hordes of Banshees from claiming any more victims. Once the team has time to breathe, Shepard and Samara realize that even the youngest daughter is a threat -- though noble, she is still addicted to the power rush of Ardat-Yakshi feeding, and she can't live here in isolation any more. Shepard must decide -- can she be trusted to be let loose on the galaxy, or will Samara kill her last surviving daughter as her Code demands?

And the endings, well a bare base look at the endings, basically the final 6 ways the end of game plays out. and yes, I did not make a mistake there are 6 ways, though granted it's really 2 ways with a variation on each

Spoiler: THE GAMES ENDINGS, THERE ARE 6, DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU SERIOUSLY WANT TO KNOW HOW IT ENDS

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard places his hands into the control mechanism and gains control over the Reapers. Earth is destroyed, and the Reapers leave.

CUTSCENE:


The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is also Destroyed.


CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard places his hands into the control mechanism and gains control over the Reapers. Earth is okay, and the Reapers leave.

CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is devastated.

CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is okay.

CUTSCENE:

The DEVICE docks with the Citadel, Shepard destroys the tubes resulting in the Reapers being destroyed. Earth is okay. Shepard survives.

I just read through that.

Bioware cant right a good story to save their lives can they ?

What heppend to "no deus ex machina"... Its illogical and stupid, so many poblems. I saw lotsof people hoping ME3 would live up to expectations. But christ I dont think they will like it at all, even if they werent hyped. I... I cant get over how fucking stupid that was...

Will stop you here, assemble giant super weapon to defeat reapers is not a Deus Ex Machina, by definition Deus Ex Machina is reserved for 'and then god pulled this out of his ass' for example "Hey Shepard here's a super weapon to destroy the reapers" is a Deus Ex Machina while "Shepard, we have the plans for a super weapon, spend the game assembling it" is not. It's still shit mind you, but it's not strictly Deus Ex Machina.

 

[Ghengis John]

I'm actually very disappointed to see no mass effect 2 characters in the squad. (Except for, in some respect, Garrus?) It reeks of corner cutting. "Yeah so we made a game where anyone can die and now we can't be bothered to let you have them on the team."

Of the six announced squadmates 1 to 3 are dead.

Spoiler

Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus and Tali can die. James, Liara and the Virmire survivor are always alive.

Kudos, I asked for mass effect 2 characters and you gave me some mass effect 1 characters. Well you sure showed me. That said I don't think Tali's been confirmed for the squad just yet.

 

[Sjakie]

So much for this game...

wait a load of ****, bioware was loosing my respect in the last year after DA2, now it just plummeted faster then the stockmarket crash.

 

[deathbydeath]

hmm, clearly i need to replay the game, but screw that, i've got better shit to play!
all in all, you do make quite a few valid points (more than me, actually), but i still can't shake the feeling that the writers are going to try to squeeze the lazarus project back into the third installment, and you can't disprove that. have a nice day.

Ahhh, he can't disprove a vague feeling that you have based on nothing more than gut feeling with little to no evidence. Riiiight.

yep, thank's for agreeing with me. and i also have evidence that proves the writers at Bioware like contrivances. it's called mass effect 2.

if you don't expect them to pull the same shit again when the idiotic conforming bastard child of ea raping bioware made more money than the brilliant, innovative, and slightly unrefined product of an asexual and pure studio of genuises, then get your ass over here to the cynical corner.

 

[deathbydeath]

this looks the same as me2. which means it'll be shit.

on another note: combat mode, story mode, and rpg mode? seriously bioware? what about people who want more than one dumbed-down mode? is that too smart for you?

EDIT:

oh my fucking god, project lazarus is back.

seriously bioware, did you watch ANY of smudboy's videos?
or hire any good writers?

What was wrong with the Lazarus project, at least in and of itself? After a while it seemed more like a gimmicky marketing thing where they got to exclaim, "Shepard DIES!"... which was a load, but whatever.

A. it had the potential to be great character and plot development, not just for shepard but for the people around him/her, but that was squandered painfully
B. there was no bloody explanation for it. At the very least they could've said that they recovered shepard's memories and personality and put him into a cyborg body, but they didn't even fucking try.

 

[Fredvdp]

I'm actually very disappointed to see no mass effect 2 characters in the squad. (Except for, in some respect, Garrus?) It reeks of corner cutting. "Yeah so we made a game where anyone can die and now we can't be bothered to let you have them on the team."

Of the six announced squadmates 1 to 3 are dead.

Spoiler

Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus and Tali can die. James, Liara and the Virmire survivor are always alive.

Kudos, I asked for mass effect 2 characters and you gave me some mass effect 1 characters. Well you sure showed me. That said I don't think Tali's been confirmed for the squad just yet.

She was. Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/13/t...admate-in-mass-effect-3-wrex-probably-doesnt/

 

[Erttheking]

You people do realize that ME3 isn't going to come out for another half a year right? We have no idea what the final result is going to be, you do know that right? Also If Bioware puts in one or two new options it isn't going to make the rest of the game magically fall apart, you do know that right? And RPG mode will most likely be the good old ME experience so if you want to play the normal ME way you can just pick that and get the wonderful blend of combat and story that we've come to love, you do know that right? If you think that the game is going to be bad simply because of these options, simply because that you CAN do these things and you don't HAVE to...then that's kinda sad. I won't be using these options but...I really don't see the big freaking deal

 

[Ghengis John]

I'm actually very disappointed to see no mass effect 2 characters in the squad. (Except for, in some respect, Garrus?) It reeks of corner cutting. "Yeah so we made a game where anyone can die and now we can't be bothered to let you have them on the team."

Of the six announced squadmates 1 to 3 are dead.

Spoiler

Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus and Tali can die. James, Liara and the Virmire survivor are always alive.

Kudos, I asked for mass effect 2 characters and you gave me some mass effect 1 characters. Well you sure showed me. That said I don't think Tali's been confirmed for the squad just yet.

She was. Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/13/t...admate-in-mass-effect-3-wrex-probably-doesnt/

Well that's fascinating. Thanks for that. Hope they have plans for some more squad mates though. Maybe my ship will start to look crowded but other's might look quite lonely indeed.

 

[ThriKreen]

edit: Examples of choices meaning nothing

You do realize that they have to account for whatever happened in ME2, so there's a set of default choices which get overridden if you imported your save game.

Kinda like, you know, the way ME2 had a set of defaults if you started a new game instead of importing your ME1 save (Who survives Virmire, Wrex lives or dies).