Mass Effect 3 "Change The Ending" Petition (almost certainly spoilers)

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MiloP

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So, apparently, there is a lot of pushing on the Bioware forums to change the ending of Mass Effect 3.

http://www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-fans-petition-bioware-to-change-the-ending-223615.phtml#ext

I'll start by saying that I haven't played ME3 yet, but half-know about the ending choices. It didn't really spoil me, I kinda predicted that there would be a bit of a downer ending, so it was unsurprising. But apparently people were so shocked by this that they want BioWare to change the ending, or give another choice.

Personally, this is probably the most mind-numbingly stupid thing I've ever seen on the internet ever.

Guess what: BioWare have the right to do ANY ending they want. If they thought that a downer ending was the best way to end the series, then that's what they thought, and NO-ONE ELSE has ANY RIGHT to tell them to change it. No-one. Anywhere. Ever.

It's fine if you don't like the ending. That's cool. Lots of games have bad endings. Lots of trilogies have bad endings. What you are SUPPOSED to do as a mentally well-adjusted adult is get past it, and get on with your damn lives. Seriously.

People petitioning for an extra ending or a different one is just a silly as me saying "Oh hey BioWare I saw this great X-Men/Sonic/Mass Effect crossover fic and it's way better than your story you should change it". Except there'd never be a petition for that, because that's stupid, just like this is.

Beautifully, people were joking about a "new ending as DLC" rip-off and this pressuring of BioWare MIGHT make that happen. And then you'd just complain about it afterwards.

Seriously. Play your games. If you like them, great. If you don't like them, oh well, get on with your life. If you were to try and force every developer to change a game you didn't like, you'll have a lot of letters to write.
 

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To be fair to most people, I don't think they're angry with the ending being a downer, I think they're angry with the endings available essentially boiling down to "push a button to choose your ending", which means that hardly any of the important actions from the prior two games have an effect.

For example: Rewriting or not rewriting the Geth in ME2 becomes irrelevant because with one button push all synthetic life is destroyed.

There's nothing wrong with a downer ending, or multiple downer endings. The series HAD to end like that. They just could have been implemented better.
 

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Haven't played it yet, so obviously haven't experienced what the ending actually feels like, but they've been building up to this moment for three goddamn games. I'm perfectly fine with the choices available, I don't want a happily ever after option, because characters are defined by their difficult and/or bad decisions, and what gets more difficult than this?

Also, playing the last two Mass Effects doesn't make me a Bioware fan does it? I'd be ashamed to call myself one the way the internet has been behaving for the past month...give them a damn break.
 

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Agreed completely. The whole "Galactic Readiness" thing was fucking idiotic. I understand the difficulty in hashing out a truly personal game experience for a player considering the hundreds of thousands of actions you can take in an RPG, but I felt really cheated. All my previous actions that I put so much weight on were reduced to numbers that didn't end up doing shit anyway.

But on the other hand, some might say it's the journey more than it is the destination. And oh my holy god was that journey incredible. Although I'm pissed about the ending, I I'd be lying if I said that playing through those 3 games, perfecting my saves, seeing old allies and new enemies show up, and watching old decisions alter how my experience went wasn't the most goddamn fun I've ever had with video games.
 

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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
erttheking said:
I do, I guess that makes me a retarted fuckwit for thinking that Bioware seriously dropped the ball.
Did you join a petition for them to change the ending?
I never said people who disliked the ending were fuckwits, I said people demanding the ending be changed are. So, you tell me; are you?
Yes, yes I did. Got a problem with that? If so, get over it.
 

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Your choic
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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
[A lot of games do that, in fact, no matter what I did in Mass Effect 2, I didn't seem to have any control over who lived and who died. In fact, I also spent the entirety of Final Fantasy VIII being the biggest dick I could possibly be, didn't change the ending at all.
Isn't it nice that the entirety of the game is null and void just because the ending didn't meet your expectations?
What... YES Your choices changed who lived and who died. If you got to know your squad mates, choose who did what they lived or died. YOUR CHOICE MATTERED. Hell then the fact that you can keep the Collector Ship or not.

Also in most games YOU DON'T HAVE CHOICE. If this was a game with no choices, fine then the ending is more understandable... BUT the game is all about choice, thus choice which has effected ME1/2 endings should effect how ME3 ended.
your choices do matter it is your choices that affects if Earth is devastated or if shepard lives
 

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MiloP said:
Guess what: BioWare have the right to do ANY ending they want. If they thought that a downer ending was the best way to end the series, then that's what they thought, and NO-ONE ELSE has ANY RIGHT to tell them to change it. No-one. Anywhere. Ever.
You're right that Bioware has the right to do any ending they want. However, players ABSOLUTELY have the right to ask for a better ending than the one that was given, even if Bioware chooses not to do so. I know you haven't beaten the game so I won't spoil it for you, but the ending to Mass Effect 3 is genuinely one of the worst endings I've seen for any work of fiction...ever. It invalidates everything you've done and goes against everything Shepard's character stands for. And to top it off, it provides no closure to the universe and characters that you've spent hundreds of hours growing to love. They screwed up, badly, and people are well within their rights to complain.

99.5% of Mass Effect 3 is phenomenally good. Unfortunately, the remaining 0.5% is so bizzare, disappointing and shocking that it not only drags the game down, but it takes the entire series with it.
 

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Knight Templar said:
The endings were rather bad.
Kill all synthetic life? Why does it have to kill the Geth and EDI?
Destroy all the relays? Without them there cannot be large-scale civilizations, this really should only be a condition if you were not prepared enough, the crucible gets damaged and thus overloads the relays. But to outright destroy them no matter what is insane.

That said, if I want the ending to be different I can just pretend they are. I don't need Bioware to validate my preference like this. I would like not to have a shitty ending, but I will not stamp my feet and demand they do it again. I wouldn't say no if new endings were offered.
I do want to know exactly what happened and what they were thinking.
You are aware one of the biggest themes of the series was how the Mass Relays/citadel network were tools used by the reapers to control technological and societal evolution down a path they chose?

Not destroying the relays makes no sense given the themes of the game, and would mean that the current races, and any future races, would still be stuck down the reapers dead end cosen path for the galaxy.

BUT what makes it EVEN WORSE is that now the galaxy has become willing slaves to a slave master that is dead.

Also there is NOTHING that prevent the races from rebuilding and making thier own Mass relays and thus allowing for a game set like 1,000 years later.
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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
7 Mass Effect 3 topics on the first page. For the benefit of the doubt, 1 is a double post.

People want Bioware to change the ending? What kind of retarded fuckwits would want that? It's not like Watchmen wherein liberties were taken, it's something they wrote.

Seriously, some people.
I do, I guess that makes me a retarted fuckwit for thinking that Bioware seriously dropped the ball.
 

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The fact of the matter is that if you didn't see Shepard's fate of going all Neo on everyone and commiting the ultimate sacrifice then you're blind.

That said, though, I do agree that it was rather lame to see the end of the series get decided by the End-o-Matic system of letting you pick which one you got, but then again ME 2 essentially ended the same way (no matter if you're paragon or renegade, you're given the choice of blowing up the Collector base or keeping it).

I think all the endings were acceptable seeing as how I pretty much knew that Shepard wasn't coming back alive. I believe the core of everyone's problem with the endings, though, isn't what happened to Shepard or the relays, I think it's the lack of closure with everything else. This game is about maintaining hope for the future...just what IS that future? Could civilization, though brutalized and scattered, rebuild? Did the races of the galaxy ever recreate the mass relays? I think people would have had a much larger appreciation for the various endings if we got something...even if it was like the ending to Dragon Age where you get to read about how all your choices ended up playing out...what happens to the dwarves, the elves, the mages, etc. If there was something like that for the ME 3 endings, I'd imagine more people would be satisfied.

As for my final word on the ending, like I said: they were all acceptable endings to the series, they just left people wanting more. People want to know what the hell happened after Shepard made the sarifice.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Knight Templar said:
The endings were rather bad.
Kill all synthetic life? Why does it have to kill the Geth and EDI?
Destroy all the relays? Without them there cannot be large-scale civilizations, this really should only be a condition if you were not prepared enough, the crucible gets damaged and thus overloads the relays. But to outright destroy them no matter what is insane.

That said, if I want the ending to be different I can just pretend they are. I don't need Bioware to validate my preference like this. I would like not to have a shitty ending, but I will not stamp my feet and demand they do it again. I wouldn't say no if new endings were offered.
I do want to know exactly what happened and what they were thinking.
You are aware one of the biggest themes of the series was how the Mass Relays/citadel network were tools used by the reapers to control technological and societal evolution down a path they chose?

Not destroying the relays makes no sense given the themes of the game, and would mean that the current races, and any future races, would still be stuck down the reapers dead end cosen path for the galaxy.

BUT what makes it EVEN WORSE is that now the galaxy has become willing slaves to a slave master that is dead.

Also there is NOTHING that prevent the races from rebuilding and making thier own Mass relays and thus allowing for a game set like 1,000 years later.
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How would it be different if the races built mass relays on their own?

Not to mention the fact that they're already going down that path since they still have mass effect field technology, which was developed because of tech left behind by the Reapers. The only difference is that instead of starting over with the pinnacle of Reaper technology, they're starting over with more primitive Reaper tech.
 

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In my opinion, an epilogue would improve the ending.... immensely. It would give us closure.
 

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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
erttheking said:
I do, I guess that makes me a retarted fuckwit for thinking that Bioware seriously dropped the ball.
Did you join a petition for them to change the ending?
I never said people who disliked the ending were fuckwits, I said people demanding the ending be changed are. So, you tell me; are you?
Dude... THE ENDINGS WERE HORRIBLE. Like they were written by a five year old. So people wanting to change the ending is completely understandable. Hell, the endings void out all choices in the game. You don't even get to see how your choices effect the universe, text or any other way. It's just THAT bad.

MiloP said:
Personally, this is probably the most mind-numbingly stupid thing I've ever seen on the internet ever.

Guess what: BioWare have the right to do ANY ending they want. If they thought that a downer ending was the best way to end the series, then that's what they thought, and NO-ONE ELSE has ANY RIGHT to tell them to change it. No-one. Anywhere. Ever.

It's fine if you don't like the ending. That's cool. Lots of games have bad endings. Lots of trilogies have bad endings. What you are SUPPOSED to do as a mentally well-adjusted adult is get past it, and get on with your damn lives. Seriously.
Beat the game and then come back. Once you realize that all your choices from ME1-3 have no effect on the conclusion. You will be pissed.

Let me ask you, why would a series that is so based on choice. Have all of your choices form the last three games HAVE NO FUCKING EFFECT on the ending? All your choices change anything. The endings are static, not effected by any previous choices and are all basically the same thing but different color.

Seriously. Play your games. If you like them, great. If you don't like them, oh well, get on with your life. If you were to try and force every developer to change a game you didn't like, you'll have a lot of letters to write.
Fallout 3's ending got changed because of how shitty it was. So point refuted.
 

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other then being implemented better i have no problem with the endings. what do you guys want sappy new age fairy tale ending.
 

Knight Templar

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The endings were rather bad.
Kill all synthetic life? Why does it have to kill the Geth and EDI?
Destroy all the relays? Without them there cannot be large-scale civilizations, this really should only be a condition if you were not prepared enough, the crucible gets damaged and thus overloads the relays. But to outright destroy them no matter what is insane.

That said, if I want the ending to be different I can just pretend they are. I don't need Bioware to validate my preference like this. I would like not to have a shitty ending, but I will not stamp my feet and demand they do it again. I wouldn't say no if new endings were offered.
I do want to know exactly what happened and what they were thinking.