Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut ~ It's Official :O

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Seanfall

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So from what I'm reading...we're getting a longer fuller piece of shit then what we had? Their not changing the ending to protect some false sense of 'artistic integrity' a phrase I'm so sick of hearing I actually feel ill evening thinking about someone bringing that up. But it's free, I hope, and if it's free I'll pick it up and see if it makes me want to slam my head into a wall any less.

But here's the thing, while some complaints were about the lack of closure most were with the ending entirely. From the point you get hit with the beam to the star/god/fuckall child to the ending cinematic's every thing stops making sense in any narrative context. If their keeping the ending then their not improving everything. And Frankly...I'm not sure how much I care anymore. I certainly have no respect left in me for a lot of journalists, game reviewers, and lost a lot more for Bioware in general. I never had any for EA (though the whole anti-gay people and EA's response to it actually gave me a little for them.)

It's just sad that such a lofty game series has such a crap crappity craptastic ending to it. I don't want an explanation for the god brat, I want the option to tell him to fuckoff, explain why he's wrong, disagree. Basically just fight back. But because they wanted an 'artistic ending' I don't get that. No one does, we get three nonsense endings that slap all the time, energy, and investment we've made into the series. And now this....Like I said I'm not gonna judge the new 'extended cut' until I see it. But if nothing changes yeah...this isn't going to stop the Retake Mass Effect movement. If anything it's going to galvanize them.
 

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Well, it's the "Extended Cut", meaning that they decided to stick with what they did so far. They are free to do that, of course, but they have permanently lost at least one customer. I was willing to give them an opportunity to admit failure and make changes, but they want to justify their actions. Well, I've justified no longer playing another game that they produce.
 

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I am not happy that they didn't give us more information about what extra scenes will resolve. I will probably be happy if Shepard and LI can live and be happy together, but that isn't what caused the uproar. The uproar was over the A, B, C endings, the plot holes, the effects your decisions made mattering, etc. I don't think Bioware has correctly responded to the major feedback, they are just calming down some people while avoiding answering for their claims. They said there would be consequences for the player's actions and some of your decisions do not effect the ending. I think the should be held to their promises, and I do not think they can do so without adding or changing endings. If they added a fourth ending, they could keep their promises while maintaining the other 3 ending's "artistic vision."

I'm sad by this because they can now say wait until summer when people ask if they are going to answer the questions. I hope that they elaborate more on what the endings will entail because letting people down again several months later is only going to cause more problems.
Maybe they will be more open at PAX because they still didn't address the issues that most people have.
 

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IamGamer41 said:
I recall seeing some vids on YouTube of deleted scenes the ME 3 ending where some of your squad gets killed by Harbinger during the run to the conduit.I remember thinking man that would of been awesome.I mean sad that your team died but hell this was the be all end all war.People should have died and not just the ones who joined you for 5 min on the Normandy(yeah I know you can get others killed or they kill themselves through choices)

If some of that is added back and the cut dialog it would be cool.Hell I still want to know where the boss fight with Harbinger was.I mean that thing talked shit to you the whole of the second game,why the hell couldn't I shut him up in the third.
actually them being killed is in the game if you have low EMS you see them bleeding in front of you after you get hit. Having High EMS shows random soldiers. Their still on the Normandy in the ending scene regardless.
 

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EA giving something out for free? And standing up for LGBT rights in the same day? Damn, maybe EA's turning around? Doubt it, but one can always hope.
 

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Yassen said:
Kudos to them for making it free, but it's still a shame how this basically means this is the ending we're getting no matter what. As in, they're not going to scrap the whole thing or go with the indoctrination theory like I hoped.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts. Although if they are just sticking in cut content, why not release it now? There's something fishy about a three-month-plus wait. Here's hoping something good gets pulled out of this.
 

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sabercrusader said:
EA giving something out for free? And standing up for LGBT rights in the same day? Damn, maybe EA's turning around? Doubt it, but one can always hope.
As long as EA doesn't become as bad as Activsion or Ubisoft ill be happy.
 

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Fappy said:
Check it out. [http://news.ea.com/portal/site/ea/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&ndmConfigId=1012492&newsId=20120405005304&newsLang=en]

REDWOOD CITY, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--BioWare, a Label of Electronic Arts Inc. announced Mass Effect? 3: Extended Cut, a downloadable content pack that will expand upon the events at the end of the critically acclaimed Action RPG. Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes. Coming this summer, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will be available for download on the Xbox 360® videogame and entertainment system, PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system and PC for no extra charge*.

?We are all incredibly proud of Mass Effect 3 and the work done by Casey Hudson and team,? said Dr. Ray Muzyka, Co-Founder of BioWare and General Manager of EA?s BioWare Label. ?Since launch, we have had time to listen to the feedback from our most passionate fans and we are responding. With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team?s artistic vision for the end of this story arc in the Mass Effect universe.?

Casey Hudson, Executive Producer of the Mass Effect series added, ?We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player.?
Well shit, what do you guys think?

In case you don't follow the link it explicitly states it will be free. EA giving out something for free... today's one of those rare sorts I presume.
I think this should have been announced the first week, not a full month after calling us entitled whiny vocal fanboi minority.

Bioware can go fuck itself and disappear for all I care now.
So they make one mistake (the ending) and then FIX that mistake (at least partially) for NO COST TO YOU (and lots of work for animators and writers ect) and they can go fuck themselves. Wow...ok sorry, what was it you were saying about 'entitled whiny vocal fanboi minority'?
Are you so dense and stupid that you miss the point entirely?

Im not mad about the ending , Im mad because the fuckers keep calling anyone that didnt like the ending 'entitled whiny vocal fanboi minority', do you understand now?

EDIT: Also please add Homophobe to the remark as well, because If I didnt like the ending and voted for them as the worst company, then I am obviously a homophobe.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.363306-Everyone-that-Voted-EA-as-the-Worst-Company-is-a-Homophobe
 

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viranimus said:
Yes, its official, the precedent has been set and the ending will now be ruined.

Congratulations, The game, the players, the company, consumers are now worse off for this.

Other thought:
With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team's artistic vision
This for all the people who said that changing the ending would not be compromising artistic vision. This is straight from the horses mouth, they had to sacrifice their vision, in order to appease so many irrational people, If they had to strike a balance, they had to compromise the vision to make a balance for the players.

But if nothing else, this is a good thing. The damage is now done, and at least this beast can be put to rest and people can shut the hell up about it. Im glad its over, even thought its the worst possible outcome. Oh well.
How the fuck is the ending ruined if they arent changing ANYTHING?

How the fuck is the ending ruined if its just adding an Epilogue to it?
 

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I still can't help but wonder how many Bioware writers have dreams of crucifying Casey Hudson. I wonder how they'll explain their way out of this mess. Indoctrination theory, I'll bet.

Also, it's free? Why is Zeel banned? We could have a mass gloating!
 

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boag said:
EDIT: Also please add Homophobe to the remark as well, because If I didnt like the ending and voted for them as the worst company, then I am obviously a homophobe.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.363306-Everyone-that-Voted-EA-as-the-Worst-Company-is-a-Homophobe
Wat

Are you... feeling feverish?
 

SajuukKhar

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lacktheknack said:
I still can't help but wonder how many Bioware writers have dreams of crucifying Casey Hudson.
Probably a lot
lacktheknack said:
Why is Zeel banned?
Is that a trick question?
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I wonder how they'll explain their way out of this mess. Indoctrination theory, I'll bet.
They aren't explaining themselves out of anything.

Its probably just a DAO style epilouge that says stuff like

"And the Korgans cured of the genophage under the ideals set forth by wrex because peaceful and the Quarrians on the homeworld with their geth allies were able to rebuilt etc. etc."
 

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SajuukKhar said:
lacktheknack said:
I still can't help but wonder how many Bioware writers have dreams of crucifying Casey Hudson.
Probably a lot
lacktheknack said:
Why is Zeel banned?
Is that a trick question?
lacktheknack said:
I wonder how they'll explain their way out of this mess. Indoctrination theory, I'll bet.
They aren't explaining themselves out of anything.

Its probably just a DAO style epilouge that says stuff like

"And the Korgans cured of the genophage under the ideals set forth by wrex because peaceful and the Quarrians on the homeworld with their geth allies were able to rebuilt etc. etc."
How do they get back to those places with the Mass Relays gone? Even if they didn't blow up like in arrival their still non functioning.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Why is Zeel banned? We could have a mass gloating!
No idea. I can't find the post that finally pushed it over the edge.

Although I guess it could have hypothetically been just about any of them.
 

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Seanfall said:
How do they get back to those places with the Mass Relays gone? Even if they didn't blow up like in arrival their still non functioning.
Uhh it isn't like a majority of the populace of those civilizations were at Earth.

Also I said "set forth" by wrex, I.e. all the ideals he did in the near 3 years from Me1 till Me3.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
lacktheknack said:
Why is Zeel banned? We could have a mass gloating!
No idea. I can't find the post that finally pushed it over the edge.

Although I guess it could have hypothetically been just about any of them.
I think he got confronted by the mods after it was all said and done and admitted to trolling. That's what I heard anyway.
 

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Fappy said:
I think he got confronted by the mods after it was all said and done and admitted to trolling. That's what I heard anyway.
Zeel admitted to trolling on one of the first days he was here. I always figured they let him hang around because he drove up page views, or something.
 
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boag said:
viranimus said:
Yes, its official, the precedent has been set and the ending will now be ruined.

Congratulations, The game, the players, the company, consumers are now worse off for this.

Other thought:
With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team's artistic vision
This for all the people who said that changing the ending would not be compromising artistic vision. This is straight from the horses mouth, they had to sacrifice their vision, in order to appease so many irrational people, If they had to strike a balance, they had to compromise the vision to make a balance for the players.

But if nothing else, this is a good thing. The damage is now done, and at least this beast can be put to rest and people can shut the hell up about it. Im glad its over, even thought its the worst possible outcome. Oh well.
How the fuck is the ending ruined if they arent changing ANYTHING?

How the fuck is the ending ruined if its just adding an Epilogue to it?


i...my head hurts reading the person you just quoted.

i do not understand, in the slightest, how stupidly short sighted a person can be. if anything they are adding on a 4 minute slideshow they made on power point saying "such and such did X! then they were Y!", if it's anything more than that, i'll actually be slightly impressed considering it's free.

regardless, EAware is doing this to try and brush this under the rug, not because they care nor do they want to admit how bad of a fuck up it was. they can kiss my ass if they think i'm falling for this horse shit, this will be the first time that i will actually "vote with my wallet". Unless the extended cut somehow is the most amazing turn around explanation that I have ever seen, then they've lost one high paying customer over the years.