Mass Effect 3 has day zero DLC (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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CityofTreez

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Steampunk Viking said:
Eh, I don't see why people are complaining about this "Day Zero DLC". It's free with the Collector's Edition and it's not as if other companies haven't done this as well, yet no-one bats an eyelid towards them.
Why are people complaining about this? Because it should be in the game! It's extremely valuable DLC toward the story and franchise that was made before the game comes out and instead of putting it in so everyone can use, they charge for it.

How can you NOT have a problem with this?
 

Clonekiller

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Akio91 said:
You get a Prothean squad mate.

http://kotaku.com/5887092/mass-effect-3-dlc-pops-up-early-on-xbox-marketplace-spoils-plot-point


I was never hyped about this game in the first place, and this just digs Biowares hole even deeper. Especially since the DLC was released BEFORE THE GAME!!

What do you guys think?
To me, this kind of day one DLC practice is nothing short of exploitative and is thus ban worthy. I personally will still be buying the confounded game, since my desire to play the game outweighs my outrage. However, I know I will not be conducting any more business with BioWare unless they change this. The fact that the party member's a Prothean is only the last straw. The fact is, this DLC was in development right alongside the game, and was probably originally intended to be part of the full version. As a result, offering it as a $10 DLC unless the customer forked over an additional $20 for the CE is nothing short of despicable. I absolutely love BioWare, and I deeply enjoy their content, but as a responsible consumer, I cannot continue to support this nonsense. Otherwise the BioWare games will end up with the same crap that plagues the FPS market, and I will not support that level of shameless exploitation.
 

Jadak

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Not bothered at all. Getting the game regardless, don't want the DLC? Don't buy it.

And to add to that, even if I cared about the usual complaints about content being made before release that "should have been in the game to begin with". It's worth noting that this addon is free with the Collectors edition and extra content for the extra price is hardly anything special.
 

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AC10 said:
boag said:
AC10 said:
Bigeyez said:
Uh did everyone already forget about Zaeed DLC? It's a CE character that peoples with a regular version or used copies will need to buy. If you don't like it don't buy it. Enough said.
But Zaeed was just some dude. No one cared about him.

This is a Prothean, the most mythical race in history. The plot has been central to the protheans for two games now. As such people are assuming the Prothean will be central to the plot, and you have to pay for that.
The keyword here is "Assume" /turian finger quotes.

A lot of people "assume" a lot of thing, for example it was widely "assumed" that the multiplayer was going to ruin Mass Effect 3 forever, and surprise surprise its been the most popular part of the demo.
I agree; I was stating the situation factually. People assume the Prothean will be an important character. I'm not saying he will be.

It's also worth nothing Zaeed was free for everyone who bought the game new; not just CE editions.
I concur, people are jumping the gun without any solid evidence for one point or the other.

The sensible thing here is to wait and see, or run the risk.

If you are paying 80 bucks for a game from a company that you have misgivings about, then yhe risk falls to you.

I cant wait to see how many threads are going to appear after launch with people BAWWWING about how they got ripped off by EA, when all the warning flags have been raised.

I for one am Purchasing the CE, I know the risk I am taking, but I enjoyed the multiplayer enough to ofset any other choice, to me the risk of the game not full filling my enjoyment is low.

I wonder if I should make a poll about this?
 

Loethlin

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Guys... You assume a lot.
Important to the story, wah wah wah. You don't know that. Definitely is important to lore of Mass Effect. But the guy is so out of the loop, he probably won't have a lot to say to contribute the the story of the game itself. So chill.
Also, others here raised a valid point. It's a Collector's edition content. I don't see a reason it shouldn't be available to people who didn't get CE, but certainly not for free. It's business, nothing more.
 

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Akio91 said:
My thoughts on this:

Why release Day 0 DLC instead of putting it on the disc to begin with?
Two words.

Electronic

Arts

If ever you see an EA published game that wants you to pay for seemingly ridiculous things, the answer is right there on the box. EA made it and people are stupid enough to pay for it.
 

Bigeyez

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AC10 said:
Bigeyez said:
Uh did everyone already forget about Zaeed DLC? It's a CE character that peoples with a regular version or used copies will need to buy. If you don't like it don't buy it. Enough said.
But Zaeed was just some dude. No one cared about him.

This is a Prothean, the most mythical race in history. The plot has been central to the protheans for two games now. As such people are assuming the Prothean will be central to the plot, and you have to pay for that. As far as I know, your Prothean companion is the last one alive in the whole universe.
I doubt he will be any more central to the plot then Zaeed and Kasumi were. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I just don't believe he will be more important then a couple of cool mission regarding him and some dialog on the ship.
 

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Oh how I wish the OP had used an actual SPOILER TAG(HINT HINT!!!) rather than just blurting out his spoiler at the start of his post....

Oh well....I've brought this on myself

http://www.craigboyce.com/w/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Homer_Simpson_Facepalm1.jpg
 
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Do you know why EA does this?

Because it fucking works, that's why. People buy it.

Stop giving them money for it, and they'll stop doing it.
 

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Loethlin said:
Guys... You assume a lot.
Important to the story, wah wah wah. You don't know that. Definitely is important to lore of Mass Effect. But the guy is so out of the loop, he probably won't have a lot to say to contribute the the story of the game itself. So chill.
Also, others here raised a valid point. It's a Collector's edition content. I don't see a reason it shouldn't be available to people who didn't get CE, but certainly not for free. It's business, nothing more.
The fact that it's a Prothean is only the last straw. The fact is, this DLC was in development right alongside the full game, and was probably originally part of the main game story, much like the "Exiled Prince" DLC for Dragon Age 2. When it comes to RPGs, this is as bad as the stunt EA tried to pull with Battlefield 3, offering special guns for those who pre-ordered from specific stores. Thankfully the outcry over this crap caused EA to rescind it's Battlefield 3 policy, making those previously exclusive weapons available to all. In light of that, I am going to object over this, because I don't want BioWare to succumb to this kind of crappy model, especially when their previous model was working just fine. As a responsible consumer, I cannot and will not stand for this. As much as I love BioWare as a whole.
 

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Do you know what pisses me off the most?

its not EA its the tards that let them wipe it off on their chin and say thank you daddy then come here and ***** about it
Dont you see you loose your right to ***** when you chug down their milky goodness its your fault they do it!
if you installed origin your part of the problem
if you still buy EA games your part of the problem
if your still going to buy ME3 then plese stfu sit in the corner and wait till they next hand you the lube.
 

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Akio91 said:
You get a Prothean squad mate.

http://kotaku.com/5887092/mass-effect-3-dlc-pops-up-early-on-xbox-marketplace-spoils-plot-point

I was never hyped about this game in the first place, and this just digs Biowares hole even deeper. Especially since the DLC was released BEFORE THE GAME!
WOO HOO!! ^^

I was worried that the Prothean squad mate was going to be a Pre-order bonus. This is the only ME3 DLC I give any amount of craps about, and I can get it (while still preordering at a local mom-and-pops game store that has no special preorder deals)!

**does a happy dance**

^^ I can't wait until March. I am so looking forward to the full version of this game. Been grinding the multiplayer (which is kinda pointless since it all gets reset when the full version comes out, but it's sort of addictive).

Edit: Also, guys, two things.

1) If you didn't know about the Prothean squad member, then you've been attempting to stay non-spoiled, cause it was announced as DLC last year. Like... May last year.

2) The Prothean is not important to the plot. Basically, if you get the DLC, you find a Prothean in a suspended animation tube and the Prothean is like "sup" and joins your squad. He has a mission of his own, I believe, that you get with the DLC - basically, the Prothean is the Katsumi of ME3 - awesome, but not at all necessary.
 

Loethlin

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Clonekiller said:
The fact that it's a Prothean is only the last straw. The fact is, this DLC was in development right alongside the full game, and was probably originally part of the main game story, much like the "Exiled Prince" DLC for Dragon Age 2. When it comes to RPGs, this is as bad as the stunt EA tried to pull with Battlefield 3, offering special guns for those who pre-ordered from specific stores. Thankfully the outcry over this crap caused EA to rescind it's Battlefield 3 policy, making those previously exclusive weapons available to all. In light of that, I am going to object over this, because I don't want BioWare to succumb to this kind of crappy model, especially when their previous model was working just fine. As a responsible consumer, I cannot and will not stand for this.
I generally agree with you. BUT! I might not like what they're doing, but I do get it. Business. At the end of the day, it's a company, set on making money. I was fully expecting this, so I'm not surprised or outraged at all. And I really don;t see why anyone else should be. It's not like it didn't happen before, like with your example, the Prince for the shitty DA2.
 

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anthony87 said:
Oh how I wish the OP had used an actual SPOILER TAG(HINT HINT!!!) rather than just blurting out his spoiler at the start of his post....

Oh well....I've brought this on myself

http://www.craigboyce.com/w/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Homer_Simpson_Facepalm1.jpg
To be honest this headline will be everywhere by the days end. Anyone looking for a reason to get on EA, Bioware and Origin's case are pretty much going to go to town with this. People will undoubtedly be talking about this for years to come alongside SWTOR and DA2 as Bioware/EA failures so really it was altogether unavoidable.
 

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Sure glad I decided to splurge a bit and pre-order that collector's edition now :D

To be fair, they've been saying from the start that the collector's edition was going to give free access to extra DLC and a bonus character. This shouldn't be news. If it makes you feel any better, it's still cheaper to buy the standard game and the Prothean DLC than it is to get the collector's edition JUST to get that DLC free.

So long as it is good DLC, like Arrival or Lair of the Shadow Broker, I'm good. Bioware has had a pretty good track-record when it comes to putting out DLC for Mass Effect. All this day-1 DLC and simultaneous DLC and game developing is the new norm sadly. At this point, I just care that the content is good, especially if its a game I was planning to buy all the DLC for anyway, like I did with ME2.
 

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Steampunk Viking said:
it's not as if other companies haven't done this as well, yet no-one bats an eyelid towards them.
Dude, people complain about day one dlc all the time, regardless of company, don't try to paint EA/Bioware as unfair victims.

The rest of your post though, eh, fair enough. Though I find the excuse that they're a company trying to make money isn't all that valid. Yes, they are indeed just out to make money, but we shouldn't let them push it too far. Should we not complain about COD's £12 for five maps? Should we not complain about hollywood charging us an extra £3 to rent some plastic 3D glasses? Should we not complain about KFC's battery farmed chickens? These are all just companies trying to make extra money, and while we can't change it, we may as well let off some steam by complaining a bit on the internet.
 

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boag said:
A lot of people "assume" a lot of thing, for example it was widely "assumed" that the multiplayer was going to ruin Mass Effect 3 forever, and surprise surprise its been the most popular part of the demo.
While I've become massively addicted to the multiplayer, I think it's the most popular part of the demo because it's easier to get more playtime on it (there's only so many times you can play through the same levels in singleplayer. At absolute max, I would say 12 and that's pushing it a lot) as well as people who avoided the singleplayer to avoid spoilers.

Note: I'm one of those people, but I took a look at the art book leak because I thought
 

Loethlin

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Complain all you want, it won't change anything. It never does. Maybe it is a cynical view on the matter, but raging helplessly with froth at your mouth is just as helpful. Only less healthy on your nerves.