I disagree, while at this point I dont think it spells doom I think this is a trend that should fuck right off.....as in "stop getting your filthy multiplayer in my single player!"weker said:It would have been foolish not to, its the last in the series and people what to keep the experience going. I wish all trilogies worked this way.
Single player for the first two and the third leaving with multiplayer.
I'm not really a fan of the series, I didn't even play the second one, since it was too much of a generic cover-based shooter, and I still think it is a bad idea to dilute the series even more.Mustang678 said:I'm surprised this move is generating so much hate, but Bioware does have the most bratty fanbase in the world after all
ME is an exception because you can take different routes over again, that in its own is a way to add life span to the game. Moral choices don't sit far at all from multiplayer.Vault101 said:it doesnt do anything for the games in question other than give parts of them a lifespan and take away what could go to single player (or to put it another way, sew an extra arm onto a healthy person, except that arm is eventually going to lose circulation and die, becoming a dead rotting fleshy mess)
and as Jim said, are we so friggen ADD that we cant enjoy a good experience more than once? I've replayed the ME series many times, if its good enough then thats replay value in itself,
plus if you were playing a multiplayer mode that wasnt co-op your not actually enjoying the BEST parts of what ME has to offer, also even CO-OP takes your attention away from..well you know the imersion and story
I imagine thats why in Portal 2 singe player and co-op were seperate modes
I don't see how having a multiplayer function makes it any more diluted from the fact that is "too much of a generic cover-based shooter," if only it would reinforce what you've already stated it is.Piflik said:I'm not really a fan of the series, I didn't even play the second one, since it was too much of a generic cover-based shooter, and I still think it is a bad idea to dilute the series even more.Mustang678 said:I'm surprised this move is generating so much hate, but Bioware does have the most bratty fanbase in the world after all
But what can I expect from people who want to make the last part of a series the 'best entry point' to said series...
hmmm while oyu make a good piont I WILL say that the replayability of games is rather subjective, even ones where you can make a choice, I dont enjoy being evil....Ive actually plaed ME pretty much the same each timeweker said:ME is an exception because you can take different routes over again, that in its own is a way to add life span to the game. Moral choices don't sit far at all from multiplayer.Vault101 said:it doesnt do anything for the games in question other than give parts of them a lifespan and take away what could go to single player (or to put it another way, sew an extra arm onto a healthy person, except that arm is eventually going to lose circulation and die, becoming a dead rotting fleshy mess)
and as Jim said, are we so friggen ADD that we cant enjoy a good experience more than once? I've replayed the ME series many times, if its good enough then thats replay value in itself,
plus if you were playing a multiplayer mode that wasnt co-op your not actually enjoying the BEST parts of what ME has to offer, also even CO-OP takes your attention away from..well you know the imersion and story
I imagine thats why in Portal 2 singe player and co-op were seperate modes
Also this is a large company they wouldn't take away work force from the main campaign. Multiplayer in a well polished and created game (not a cash in) would have a separate group working on it.
Also Jim assumes it's the core gamers that are causing dev to make shitty single players with a multiplayer focus, but ofc its the normal average joe, who gets home plays a game for a couple of hours and gets tired with the game after a short while.
These average joes wont be replaying a game.
On top of that the few games that are worth replaying tend to be the ones documented as best ever like silent hill 2 or OoT.
"plus if you were playing a multiplayer mode that wasnt co-op your not actually enjoying the BEST parts of what ME"
I agree by multiplayer I hope it is still kept separate or is competitive.
The main reason i suggest this trilogies should end with multiplayer is that way no multiplayer for the first 2 meaning a more refined single player experience, and the end you will go QQ I don't want it to end sob. I know I would reach a point in ME3 where I have played it 4 times and go I have seen this scenery so many time and its gotten tiresome but with multiplayer it would keep me enjoying this rich gameplay and world.
"you make a good piont" thank youVault101 said:hmmm while oyu make a good piont I WILL say that the replayability of games is rather subjective, even ones where you can make a choice, I dont enjoy being evil....Ive actually plaed ME pretty much the same each time
I also intend on replaying Batman AA
That's exactly what I mean. It is going to be even more of an generic cover-based shooter, instead of the epic, story driven RPG that the series was initially envisioned to be. The story in the second part was crap and I don't expect the third part to deliver even that...Mustang678 said:I don't see how having a multiplayer function makes it any more diluted from the fact that is "too much of a generic cover-based shooter," if only it would reinforce what you've already stated it is.I'm not looking for the "best entry point" I'm just excited to be able to play with my friends.Piflik said:I'm not really a fan of the series, I didn't even play the second one, since it was too much of a generic cover-based shooter, and I still think it is a bad idea to dilute the series even more.Mustang678 said:I'm surprised this move is generating so much hate, but Bioware does have the most bratty fanbase in the world after all
But what can I expect from people who want to make the last part of a series the 'best entry point' to said series...