Mass Effect 3: Retake Mass Effect Ending Child's Play Movement

[Zetsubou-Sama]

http://retakemasseffect.chipin.com/retake-mass-effect-childs-play


I think this is important enough to warrant it's own thread/a place to allow people that share the same thoughts as the creators of the movement.


No matter what your position on the endings might be, I think this a kind gesture from the ME community, and is nice to see so many people coming together and fight for what they belive in, while doing a good deed.

 

[csmark001]

Thanks for putting this up. We are rapidly closing in on the $5000 dollar mark and have done this in less than 20 hours!

 

[Kacper Czernik]

It's great idea! Good work guys!

 

[Nimcha]

This is pretty stupid. Using some kind of charity to get people interested in a misguided idea about the ending of a videogame.

Yeah, nice move.

 

[boag]

Thats more positive action than bitching around the internet, Love that people are doing this.

 

[synobal]

This is pretty stupid. Using some kind of charity to get people interested in a misguided idea about the ending of a videogame.

Yeah, nice move.

Pretty much this. I'm all for giving money to childsplay but this has to be the stupidest reason I've ever seen.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

This is pretty stupid. Using some kind of charity to get people interested in a misguided idea about the ending of a videogame.

Pretty much this. I'm all for giving money to childsplay but this has to be the stupidest reason I've ever seen.

I uh...what?

Since when do we grade the reasons why people are giving to charity? People give to charity all the time for no reason at all, or for tax purposes. Yet this is apparently the stupidest reason you've ever seen, because you felt like being hipsters on an internet forum.

Look, whether you like the ending or not, people being passionate about their hobby is not "stupid", it's nice. Being passionate about the things you love, getting attached to a fictional world that meant a lot to you...are we meant to discourage these things, then? Wag our fingers at them before we slip off to smoke some clove cigarettes and practice our sighs?

The likelihood of a petition actually accomplishing anything is low, but it's nice that people cared this much about the games, and it's nice that they've chosen to marry their enterprise to Child's Play so something good comes out of it regardless.

By all means though, carry on scoffing, you heroes.

 

[Nimcha]

This is pretty stupid. Using some kind of charity to get people interested in a misguided idea about the ending of a videogame.

Pretty much this. I'm all for giving money to childsplay but this has to be the stupidest reason I've ever seen.

I uh...what?

Since when do we grade the reasons why people are giving to charity? People give to charity all the time for no reason at all, or for tax purposes. Yet this is apparently the stupidest reason you've ever seen, because you felt like being hipsters on an internet forum.

Look, whether you like the ending or not, people being passionate about their hobby is not "stupid", it's nice. Being passionate about the things you love, getting attached to a fictional world that meant a lot to you...are we meant to discourage these things, then? Wag our fingers at them before we slip off to smoke some clove cigarettes and practice our sighs?

The likelihood of a petition actually accomplishing anything is low, but it's nice that people cared this much about the games, and it's nice that they've chosen to marry their enterprise to Child's Play so something good comes out of it regardless.

By all means though, carry on scoffing, you heroes.

Being passionate is fine. Petition all you want. But this is simply using the same kind of business strategy most people on this site frown upon.

The only reason this charity is dragged into this is because it improves the chances of it being noticed. And the worst thing is it stems from simple misunderstanding due to Bioware's overuse of subtlety.

 

[random281]

This is pretty stupid. Using some kind of charity to get people interested in a misguided idea about the ending of a videogame.

Yeah, nice move.

Child's Play is an existing Charity founded by the guys from Penny Arcade that donates toys and video games to hospitals to benefit sick kids.

childsplaycharity.org if you're interested in checking it out.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Being passionate is fine. Petition all you want. But this is simply using the same kind of business strategy most people on this site frown upon.

The only reason this charity is dragged into this is because it improves the chances of it being noticed. And the worst thing is it stems from simple misunderstanding due to Bioware's overuse of subtlety.

And? We're contending over how charities get their money now? Why is it alright and par for the course if I give money to a charity to save money on my taxes, but suddenly the stupidest idea in the world if I gave money to a charity because I was passionate about a game? Charity comes out ahead either way.

For the record, I have not given any money to a charity nor signed a petition regarding Mass Effect 3. But I think it's kind of cute and touching that people have. Storytelling through gaming is a unique medium, and a relatively new medium. Players felt they had a stake in the authorship of this story, and they're expressing that. Why on earth anyone would feel the need to sneer at it is beyond me.

 

[Nimcha]

Being passionate is fine. Petition all you want. But this is simply using the same kind of business strategy most people on this site frown upon.

The only reason this charity is dragged into this is because it improves the chances of it being noticed. And the worst thing is it stems from simple misunderstanding due to Bioware's overuse of subtlety.

And? We're contending over how charities get their money now? Why is it alright and par for the course if I give money to a charity to save money on my taxes, but suddenly the stupidest idea in the world if I gave money to a charity because I was passionate about a game? Charity comes out ahead either way.

For the record, I have not given any money to a charity nor signed a petition regarding Mass Effect 3. But I think it's kind of cute and touching that people have. Storytelling through gaming is a unique medium, and a relatively new medium. Players felt they had a stake in the authorship of this story, and they're expressing that. Why on earth anyone would feel the need to sneer at it is beyond me.

Look, I don't care for what reasons people give to charity. I'm just saying it's a really cheap move by the creators of this petition.

And I disagree with this simply because I do not agree with the reasons people think the ending is bad or awful. I find it sad to see so many people do, when it isn't needed.

 

[Kahunaburger]

@Nimcha: I've heard Bioware called many things, but "subtle" is a new one.

 

[random281]

Look, I don't care for what reasons people give to charity. I'm just saying it's a really cheap move by the creators of this petition.

And I disagree with this simply because I do not agree with the reasons people think the ending is bad or awful. I find it sad to see so many people do, when it isn't needed.

They're trying to channel the outrage of the fan community into something positive. It's a much better use of that energy then, for example, the fans creating petitions for the writers to be fired or commit ritual suicide.

Also, there's a group of Fan who hold Mass Effect Marathons who donate all the proceeds to Child's Play. Would you say that's a cheap move?

 

[Sp3ratus]

Look, I don't care for what reasons people give to charity. I'm just saying it's a really cheap move by the creators of this petition.

And I disagree with this simply because I do not agree with the reasons people think the ending is bad or awful. I find it sad to see so many people do, when it isn't needed.

They're trying to channel the outrage of the fan community into something positive. It's a much better use of that energy then, for example, the fans creating petitions for the writers to be fired or commit ritual suicide.

Also, there's a group of Fan who hold Mass Effect Marathons who donate all the proceeds to Child's Play. Would you say that's a cheap move?

Wow, you're not reading at all what she's writing, are you? ME Marathons are fine, because there are no ulterior motives. With this, however, there is one. The only reason something like this has been made, is to use a well known charity organization to get more attention, which I agree is a cheap move.

 

[boag]

Look, I don't care for what reasons people give to charity. I'm just saying it's a really cheap move by the creators of this petition.

And I disagree with this simply because I do not agree with the reasons people think the ending is bad or awful. I find it sad to see so many people do, when it isn't needed.

They're trying to channel the outrage of the fan community into something positive. It's a much better use of that energy then, for example, the fans creating petitions for the writers to be fired or commit ritual suicide.

Also, there's a group of Fan who hold Mass Effect Marathons who donate all the proceeds to Child's Play. Would you say that's a cheap move?

Wow, you're not reading at all what she's writing, are you? ME Marathons are fine, because there are no ulterior motives. With this, however, there is one. The only reason something like this has been made, is to use a well known charity organization to get more attention, which I agree is a cheap move.

Paragon Route: Give to Charity with no Ulterior Motives

Renegade Route: Give to Charity with Ulterior Motives


Paragade Route: Not giving a fuck what the motive is and giving to charity.

Renegon Route: Give to Charity because of the Ulterior motive.

 

[random281]

ME Marathons are fine, because there are no ulterior motives. With this, however, there is one.

Advertising for their review site wouldn't, by chance, count as an ulterior motive in this situation, would it?

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Wow, you're not reading at all what she's writing, are you? ME Marathons are fine, because there are no ulterior motives. With this, however, there is one. The only reason something like this has been made, is to use a well known charity organization to get more attention, which I agree is a cheap move.

I'm not really sure why having an ulterior motive makes it a cheap move. Again, when someone gives to charity for tax purposes, is it a cheap move?

Another question...if I pay a marketing firm to raise the profile of my business/site/movement, is that a cheap move? If not, why is giving the money to a FUCKING CHARITY instead "cheap"?

 

[Fappy]

I really don't see what this issue with this is. People are passionate about their hobby and looking for support. Might as well donate to charity while you're at it. It's better than harassing employees on their social media sites.

 

[Sp3ratus]

ME Marathons are fine, because there are no ulterior motives. With this, however, there is one.

Advertising for their review site wouldn't, by chance, count as an ulterior motive in this situation, would it?

Alright, I'll admit that that would be an ulterior motive. However, I have a hard time seeing how a site like this is benefitting from doing ME marathons. As far as I can tell, they're doing just that, playing ME for charity, nothing else. Other than that, to me it's different doing something primarily for charity(marathons) and doing something primarily to gain attention(this). Granted, I'll admit I can't prove that last one, but that's the way it looks to me.

Wow, you're not reading at all what she's writing, are you? ME Marathons are fine, because there are no ulterior motives. With this, however, there is one. The only reason something like this has been made, is to use a well known charity organization to get more attention, which I agree is a cheap move.

I'm not really sure why having an ulterior motive makes it a cheap move. Again, when someone gives to charity for tax purposes, is it a cheap move?

Another question...if I pay a marketing firm to raise the profile of my business/site/movement, is that a cheap move? If not, why is giving the money to a FUCKING CHARITY instead "cheap"?

Giving to charity, solely because of tax purposes seems a bit to me like trying to dodge your responsibilty to society. Taxes are there for a reason, to make society run.

I'm not sure what you mean by that last question. Hiring a marketing firm, IE paying for their work, where as giving to a charity is volunteraly giving your money for a good cause. I don't really see how the two are comparable. You disagree, I know, but as I've said, to me this just seems like a way of getting attention to your cause at the expense of the charity, rather than you truly genuinly wanting to donate to charity. I might be wrong, but to me, that doesn't seem likely. Not in this case, anyway.

In any case, you don't need my approval, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it. I just think it's cheap to use charity for something like this.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Giving to charity, solely because of tax purposes seems a bit to me like trying to dodge your responsibilty to society. Taxes are there for a reason, to make society run.

I'm not sure what you mean by that last question. Hiring a marketing firm, IE paying for their work, where as giving to a charity is volunteraly giving your money for a good cause. I don't really see how the two are comparable. You disagree, I know, but as I've said, to me this just seems like a way of getting attention to your cause at the expense of the charity, rather than you truly genuinly wanting to donate to charity. I might be wrong, but to me, that doesn't seem likely. Not in this case, anyway.

In any case, you don't need my approval, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it. I just think it's cheap to use charity for something like this.

I'm not doing it!

Please, please, please explain how giving money to a charity, for WHATEVER reason, is "at the expense of the charity"? Imagine you're a sick kid, and Child's Play is donating goods and services to you. Do you give a shit whether the people who donated the money for those did it on a whim, or to give their ME3 petition some profile?

I humbly submit that you do not.