Mass Effect 3: Retake This

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noobartist1 said:
Teresa Lass said:
Bigeyez said:
Teresa Lass said:
trollpwner said:
Teresa Lass said:
Sigh
Let me put it in other words: when your laughed at is difficult to laugh at the joke.
Yeah, but the joke in this is squarely aimed at the people who deliberately stir up trouble to gain money... I'm not sure what it means if you consider yourself to be the 'victim' of the joke.
Well its aimed for moking the retake movement, in one way or another. So i guess as part of the movement i cant laugh at the joke.
While i dont consider myself victimized, in all and all its just a couple of ppl making a joke of already old news.

Again tho, cant laugh.
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So you didn't get it at all then. They AREN'T making fun of the retake movement in this comic.

Okkkkk
before we continue this, click on the comic page --previous-- and read it.
Still thinking they are not making fun of the movement?
That older strip: yes, it is making fun of the movement.

This current strip? No. Not even close. It maybe using the "current affairs" of ME3, but it is not even close to making fun of the movement.


For a comic strip which has so many sudden topic-switching single-use-strips and very, very few arcs (Steam, the accident, etc), you sure like to connect them all together.
...
Or are you still believing that every single Critical Miss we've read so far is about crumpets? You know, since the first one mentioned crumpets...
LOL
So you think the part where they despise the ReTake movement (i read the reviews on the previous one) simply vanishes in the current one?
Yes i know the joke is about antagonizing people in order to get views and money, more so the ReTake movement from where it can get money to make for example t-shirts. A mokery of the people who takes advantage of the rage of others.

It still calls the supporters crybabies, one way or another, yes?
 

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When the Prisoner ended on television, people were pissed off too, even going as far as harassing Patrick McGoohan on the streets.

Today the final episode of the Prisoner is considered one of the greatest gaianax endings of all time.

Morale of this tale: Grow the fuck up.
I liked the ending of ME3, but I understand not everybody was happy with it. That is ok, it is good to have an opinion of your own.
But it is true that people overreacted, with all the actions and "demanding" an apology... Did you not enjoy all those hours playing mass effect games? Is the ending really that bad to taint the memory of those hours?
Affcorse not.
People who dislike the ending = normal.
People who whine and ***** about it = self-entitled little bitches.
 

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People really need to remember that they get to see someone's artistic vision, not control it. Yes it sucks that the ending was not what we wanted but that doesn't mean you get to throw a tantrum and demand they redo it to your liking.

For a parallel, I'm reading 'A Song of Ice and Fire' right now and I'm at the bit where

Robb dies.

I don't like it but i'm not going to email the author and demand he rewrites the entire thing just so i can have it my way.

Yes you can complain and say that you had hoped that it was better than it was, that's a reasonable thing to do. But to demand they change their work, something they thought was good, just to please you is really, really, really childish.
 

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Teresa Lass said:
LOL
So you think the part where they despise the ReTake movement (i read the reviews on the previous one) simply vanishes in the current one?
Yes i know the joke is about antagonizing people in order to get views and money, more so the ReTake movement from where it can get money to make for example t-shirts. A mokery of the people who takes advantage of the rage of others.

It still calls the supporters crybabies, one way or another, yes?
The point, which you keep missing, is that "EVIL BOSS" is PURPOSELY calling you CRYBABIES. ON PURPOSE. And in order to GET YOU ANGRY. So they can SELL MORE, based on your SWEET SWEET TEARS.

Thus: me laughing at you (and others in the comments section) for missing the entire point simply because you're too angry to process the actual message even when your intellectual side is trying to get past all the ARGGGGGG!!!! and RAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEE!!! to tell you that you're kinda missing the point...

Cry more, guys. Cry more. Someone's getting a lot of traffic, and perhaps selling merchandise, but definitely making money, all because you're too angry to process this sad fact...

Which is, incidentally, the entire point of this comic.

tldr: You rage, they $$. Yet you can't help but rage. Thus me = LoL at comments, even more than the actual strip.

Grey Carter said:
Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke.
Erm... ... ... right.
*slinks away*

(Note: Was never part of the movement. I think the endings sux, but is not one who would want to force-change it.

But you gotta admit, that other ME3 movement strip? Its kinda like a sledgehammer. Just like quite a lot of your other strips. You can't really deny you went hard on those guys, can you? Just like the people you're parodying this very strip?

... And to be honest? That's the way I like it. Keep the sledgehammer coming, on things I like and things I hate. I can't promise you I'll like all your output, especially if it hits too close to home, but I'm still a fan.)
 

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noobartist1 said:
The point, which you keep missing, is that "EVIL BOSS" is PURPOSELY calling you CRYBABIES. ON PURPOSE. And in order to GET YOU ANGRY. So they can SELL MORE, based on your SWEET SWEET TEARS.

Thus: me laughing at you (and others in the comments section) for missing the entire point simply because you're too angry to process the actual message even when your intellectual side is trying to get past all the ARGGGGGG!!!! and RAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEE!!! to tell you that you're kinda missing the point...

Cry more, guys. Cry more. Someone's getting a lot of traffic, and perhaps selling merchandise, but definitely making money, all because you're too angry to process this sad fact...

Which is, incidentally, the entire point of this comic.

tldr: You rage, they $$. Yet you can't help but rage. Thus me = LoL at comments, even more than the actual strip.

Grey Carter said:
Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke.
Erm... ... ... right.
*slinks away*

(Note: Was never part of the movement. I think the endings sux, but is not one who would want to force-change it.

But you gotta admit, that other ME3 movement strip? Its kinda like a sledgehammer. Just like quite a lot of your other strips. You can't really deny you went hard on those guys, can you? Just like the people you're parodying this very strip?

... And to be honest? That's the way I like it. Keep the sledgehammer coming, on things I like and things I hate. I can't promise you I'll like all your output, especially if it hits too close to home, but I'm still a fan.)

ahh???
***Stares***

***Shrugs***

***Smiles***

:D


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PS: I dont get in what side you are, i see you both bashing me and the strip itself, then grey says exactly what i was saying...ummm.
 

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Why the fuck are people taking this strip seriously? They're obviously poking fun at the whole situation, not just the fans' supposed "entitlement".
I don't think the comic authors even know what their point was.
 

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Grey Carter said:
noobartist1 said:
Its a double whammy actually, now that I think about it:

a) It generates traffic for the Escapist primarily by hooking onto the trolling that has been going on with ME3, the retake movement, etc. What's not to love about yet another online gaming site calling all of us ME3 playing folk entitled babies???

b) At the same time, it lampoons everything about point (a) and everybody involved in "gaming journalism", showing us how low some editors can go just for traffic-generating content... including this very site.

Including this very comic strip, just one issue earlier.

* am chucking more now thanks to fridge-logic, and is applauding Grey Carter for a job well done *
Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke.
"Make fun of everything and everyone but me and the things I like."
 

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I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
 

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Teresa Lass said:
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PS: I dont get in what side you are, i see you both bashing me and the strip itself, then grey says exactly what i was saying...ummm.
Note that you're talking about the ME3 movement being bashed by THIS comic (and not the Critical Miss before this one), in the last few of your posts. You see nothing but "bashing ME3 movement", even if you do/do not see the underlying joke.

I am pointing out that you can't exactly see past "ME3 movement bashing" in my post.

Case in point: The authors could have put in fan whining about Dragon-Age map-repeat, Final Fantasy "railroad maps", Duke Nukem, North Korea Missile Launch, etc... as the main topic of this strip, and it would still be able to hold itself, simply because the topic/message is NOT "ME3 movement bashing".

Uszi said:
I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
Welcome to Critical Miss. You might want to re-read the first few strips, almost everybody in the last panel, the bear included, are introduced in the first ten or so strips...
 

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noobartist1 said:
Uszi said:
I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
Welcome to Critical Miss. You might want to re-read the first few strips, almost everybody in the last panel, the bear included, are introduced in the first ten or so strips...
Heh, rather than wasting my time I guess I'll accept that it doesn't make any sense, if you only consider the context given within the strip itself.
 

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Uszi said:
noobartist1 said:
Uszi said:
I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
Welcome to Critical Miss. You might want to re-read the first few strips, almost everybody in the last panel, the bear included, are introduced in the first ten or so strips...
Heh, rather than wasting my time I guess I'll accept that it doesn't make any sense, if you only consider the context given within the strip itself.
Yes because they should reintroduce every character every single time they appear in a strip, just to appease the lazy and memory impaired.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
Yes because they should reintroduce every character every single time they appear in a strip, just to appease the lazy and memory impaired.
Heh, if it doesn't make any sense without that context? Maybe.

Though I would agree that people who are both lazy and memory impaired aren't a key demographic of anything really. They'd forget as soon as you explained it!

I happen to be in neither demographic. As a new reader, I have no knowledge of characters introduced in the first ten strips, but haven't been in the strips for weeks, so I can't be memory impaired.

As someone who didn't find this particular strip particularly illuminating or enlightening since it lacked important context, I'm hardly lazy for not seeing a reason to devote more time to it!
 

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noobartist1 said:
Note that you're talking about the ME3 movement being bashed by THIS comic (and not the Critical Miss before this one), in the last few of your posts. You see nothing but "bashing ME3 movement", even if you do/do not see the underlying joke.

I am pointing out that you can't exactly see past "ME3 movement bashing" in my post.

Case in point: The authors could have put in fan whining about Dragon-Age map-repeat, Final Fantasy "railroad maps", Duke Nukem, North Korea Missile Launch, etc... as the main topic of this strip, and it would still be able to hold itself, simply because the topic/message is NOT "ME3 movement bashing".
Quoting grey "Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke."
Im pretty sure that was about this strip.

Sorry i do understand the joke, but even if it wasnt about ME3 movement i find it humorless, more like trolling either for the complexsity it takes to get the joke, because you have to read it 2 or 3 times to get what they mean, because it wasnt very well done artistically speaking, or because the theme to exploit was the ReTake Movement itself. (Or maybe because im not a native english speaker and im unable to relate to that humor)

Anyway it would be great if you can tell me what are you sideing for, just for the record.(and because we have been discussing this for several days lol)
I what i could understand in your statements is that you didnt liked the ending, your are tired of the theme of using the mainstream of the ReTake movement or that it was just att seeking. But you disagree with the movement itself and you do think we are going too far.

Did i got it right?
 

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SO MUCH ANGER IN THIS THREAD, I SENSE THE DARK SIDE INSIDE YOU.

Embrace it.

On topic however I actually agree with this comic. I LOVED THE ENDING, and apparently anyone I tell that too responds with "YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND YOUR OPINION IS WRONG"

/facepalm

I'm just sick of listening to people cry about it, I have N7 hat and EVERYONE IRL asks me if I liked the ending. I swear in the last week I've gone to 3 parties. 17 people (yes I counted) in the last week have asked me if I liked the ending, and half of them went on a rant about how the ending is turrible.

ITS SPREADING TO IRL GUYS, THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT! ABANDON SHIP!
 

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Teresa Lass said:
noobartist1 said:
Note that you're talking about the ME3 movement being bashed by THIS comic (and not the Critical Miss before this one), in the last few of your posts. You see nothing but "bashing ME3 movement", even if you do/do not see the underlying joke.

I am pointing out that you can't exactly see past "ME3 movement bashing" in my post.

Case in point: The authors could have put in fan whining about Dragon-Age map-repeat, Final Fantasy "railroad maps", Duke Nukem, North Korea Missile Launch, etc... as the main topic of this strip, and it would still be able to hold itself, simply because the topic/message is NOT "ME3 movement bashing".
Quoting grey "Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke."
Im pretty sure that was about this strip.

Sorry i do understand the joke, but even if it wasnt about ME3 movement i find it humorless, more like trolling either for the complexsity it takes to get the joke, because you have to read it 2 or 3 times to get what they mean, because it wasnt very well done artistically speaking, or because the theme to exploit was the ReTake Movement itself. (Or maybe because im not a native english speaker and im unable to relate to that humor)

Anyway it would be great if you can tell me what are you sideing for, just for the record.(and because we have been discussing this for several days lol)
I what i could understand in your statements is that you didnt liked the ending, your are tired of the theme of using the mainstream of the ReTake movement or that it was just att seeking. But you disagree with the movement itself and you do think we are going too far.

Did i got it right?
Since you asked so nicely:
a) That comment you quoted, that was the author himself mentioning the PREVIOUS comic, not this one. The one with the blowjob. And his response was in note of my description of that other ME3 movement strip as "low".

If you didn't spot my response to that comment you quoted, I basically said "Yes it is low. Yes i LOVED it. Keep it coming."

b) I LIKED this comic (although I like the rage in the comments even more).

c) I did not say I dislike the ME3 movement. I just said I am not part of it. Yes I hate the ME3 endings, but I don't see the point of joining said movement, or why there is a need to have that movement in the first place. And I perfectly GOT this comic, and it is quite chuckle-worthy simply because (different from your understanding of my comments) I can see the comic stabbing at the industry's practice of riding the hate wave.

d)
...because you have to read it 2 or 3 times to get what they mean...(Or maybe because im not a native english speaker and im unable to relate to that humor)
This. I think this more than anything.

On a similar note: don't read British jokes. They depend on the same level of "thinking to get the joke" that'll fly over your head...
 

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As of this point, I'm pretty much done with the issue altogether, but I would still buy one of those Tshirts. I can think of so many uses for it.


Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go hide from the internet for a while until this finishes blowing over. Apparently it's not done yet.