Mass Effect 3 Speculation

[Omega V]

haold on whats all this about a crash with andromeda?? where did this come out of

The Andromeda Galaxy is accelerating towards our own due to gravitational attraction. The hole in the logic here is it will take millions of years for the collision to happen, and even when it does happen they will merge without a catastrophic explosion because the average density stars in a galaxy is so low.

5 million years to be exact. I don't think we can get a sustainable foothold in another galaxy that's not Andromeda, which is the closest one, within that time frame. We're talking about ridiculous distances that make 5 million years seem like a blink. Also, I know stars won't actually crash into each other, but the chaos from all those different gravitational fields will rip planets from orbits and slam others into stars. Once Mildromeda stabilizes, the new galaxy may well be habitable, but any existing advanced life will be gone. Even if Earth is only nudged a little closer or farther from the sun, we'd all die. To say nothing of whether or not the new orbit is stable.

the actule date of the milky way/Andromeda collision is 3-5 BILLION years from now, and the actual event will consist of the two galaxy's passing through one another, over a further billion or so years, with the individual stars passing each other by several light years. if more than a dozen star systems are directly effected, I will be surprised. Even in the most violent galactic mergers, the distances between the stars remain so great, that gravitational effects on a stars planets remain negligible. what will be affected are the great interstellar gas clouds, when two gas rich spirals collide, their gasses become violently disrupted and compressed, triggering an orgy of star birth. this rapidly consumes all the available gas in the newly formed elliptical galaxy, effectively ending its ability to ever form new star systems in the future. As the stars in Milkymedia run through their life cycles and die, the galaxy will become redder and dimer, as only the low mass stars are left alive. After about 30 billion years, with no new stars to replace them, only the feeble red dwarfs will still be burning.

So long story short, both galaxy's will remain perfectly habitable throughout the ordeal, its only billions of years after the fact that we really get screwed over.

 

[Mjolnir36]

I can't wait Until our our backs are against the wall and guess what...Rachni! They turn the tide of the battle and All of the species are super happy and we all smoke a big space doobie.

 

[Mjolnir36]

haold on whats all this about a crash with andromeda?? where did this come out of

The Andromeda Galaxy is accelerating towards our own due to gravitational attraction. The hole in the logic here is it will take millions of years for the collision to happen, and even when it does happen they will merge without a catastrophic explosion because the average density stars in a galaxy is so low.

5 million years to be exact. I don't think we can get a sustainable foothold in another galaxy that's not Andromeda, which is the closest one, within that time frame. We're talking about ridiculous distances that make 5 million years seem like a blink. Also, I know stars won't actually crash into each other, but the chaos from all those different gravitational fields will rip planets from orbits and slam others into stars. Once Mildromeda stabilizes, the new galaxy may well be habitable, but any existing advanced life will be gone. Even if Earth is only nudged a little closer or farther from the sun, we'd all die. To say nothing of whether or not the new orbit is stable.

the actule date of the milky way/Andromeda collision is 3-5 BILLION years from now, and the actual event will consist of the two galaxy's passing through one another, over a further billion or so years, with the individual stars passing each other by several light years. if more than a dozen star systems are directly effected, I will be surprised. Even in the most violent galactic mergers, the distances between the stars remain so great, that gravitational effects on a stars planets remain negligible. what will be affected are the great interstellar gas clouds, when two gas rich spirals collide, their gasses become violently disrupted and compressed, triggering an orgy of star birth. this rapidly consumes all the available gas in the newly formed elliptical galaxy, effectively ending its ability to ever form new star systems in the future. As the stars in Milkymedia run through their life cycles and die, the galaxy will become redder and dimer, as only the low mass stars are left alive. After about 30 billion years, with no new stars to replace them, only the feeble red dwarfs will still be burning.

So long story short, both galaxy's will remain perfectly habitable throughout the ordeal, its only billions of years after the fact that we really get screwed over.

Yay?

 

[mattttherman3]

I doubt much of what the OP said, frankly if all that happens, I'd actually be pissed off. I expect Mordin and Thane to be in the next game. Because Mordin will probably cure him. Mordin may also cure Joker and WILL cure the Genophage.

I also believe Tali will be in that admirals seat and it will be her vote that decides whether or not to go to war with the geth. Theres no Reaper on the Citadel, thats just a stupid notion, why the hell would ME1 have taken place if that were the case?

I expect Ashley/Kaiden and Liara will return to you, Samara will if your a paragon, not if your a Renegade, Jack, who knows or cares frankly. I don't know where Legion will be, I expect him there but I don't know in what fashion, most likely for the Geth vs. Quarians war.

There will probably be a mission to save miranda's sister, since cerberus is hiding them and she resigned when I blew up the base, the illusive man's way to get to me. Jacob, once again, who cares, but he'll probably stay with you.

Grunt will probably go to Tchuchunka to be with his clan, might join you if you ask him. As far as Zaeed and Kasumi, I really don't care at all, since they were DLC whatever part they have in ME3 won't be anything but a sidequest.

 

[Hiphophippo]

Jack, who knows or cares frankly.

This paragon Shepard right here cares. Jack is my lady friend.

Side note: I'm still crushed that legion died in my ME2 playthrough.

 

[mattttherman3]

Jack, who knows or cares frankly.

This paragon Shepard right here cares. Jack is my lady friend.

Side note: I'm still crushed that legion died in my ME2 playthrough.

Ah, well on my paragon playthrough, I didn't have a lady friend with my Shepard, ended up staring at a photo of Ashley before the final mission. As for your Legion dying, my fool proof plan: make sure before you go onto the derelect reaper, you have one active mission for helping a squadmate,ONLY ONE(as in you've done everyone elses), preferably tali, once you get legion, do tali's mission, make sure your real good paragon points here or do the renegade prompt action, anyway after that mission, do legions immediately. Then your crew gets captured, head straight to omega 4 relay(making sure your ship barriers, armor, and weapons are upgraded).

Pick Tali or Legion to go into the shaft, make Garrus or Miranda leader of second fire team

next area: send jacob back with the crew, take jack or samara as the biotic shield lady, make miranda or garrus the leader of the second team

final match: Here is where I believe either Garrus or Miranda has to be with the remainder of the people you leave behind, everytime i took them both with me someone died. and if you did all that and someone still died and you had their loyalty, restart the mission, and when you get to the final point, take the person that died last time with you to the final battle.

Wow that was a mouthful.

 

[VulakAerr]

The Dholen star will be important. Trust me. I don't know if it's the Geth working on that or what is happening, but anything to age a star so quickly has got to be important.

I think your overall chances in the finale will be helped or hindered by those you have left alive so far. Those who have put themselves at a disadvantage may have a tougher mission gameplay-wise or more story to play through:

Rachni (set free/extinct)
Krogan (are you friends with the Krogan leader... Wrex?)
Geth (numbers decided by destruction/infection of the heretics or total inaction)
Quarians (did you suggest they go to war or try for peace?)
Collector station (like it or not, destroying the base may be tactically unsound, whatever the moral implications)
Relationship between Aria and Patriach
Liara (did you help her? This may affect her loyalty/living status in ME3)
Scanning the keepers (with sufficient understanding, maybe a signal could be sent back? Did you scan them all?)
Zhu's Hope (continued support for this colony may give insight into resisting indoctrination)

That's just for starters.

I agree, we will most likely see more of the Citadel again in ME3 and hopefully Earth. I'd like to see the Grissom Academy too.

 

[imaloony]

- Bring Back Planet Exploration, but more dynamic and interactive than in Mass Effect 1.

- A Bigger team of Characters to bring along.

- Friendly AI that can tie its own shoes.

- Make the Citadel larger, more interactive, and more explorable. Like, larger than it was in Mass Effect 1.

- MORE WEAPONS AND MODS.

- Find a better way to distribute the resources to upgrade weapons.

- More Armor customization.

- Let us go to earth.

- More abilities and an expanded, more refined leveling system.

To me, it seems like Mass Effect 2 was trying to be as distant from Mass Effect 1 as possible. It tried to do everything new, which was great, but that also required dumbing everything down. Now that the new system is set in stone, they can work on expanding everything for the final, epic chapter.

 

[regallmighty]

Some really cool ideas, i hope it all works out

 

[WolfThomas]

No sure about small details, but Paragon Sheppard has a mighty army building up of Geth, Rachni and Krogans. I think that with the paragon ending a huge alliance unites and destroys the reapers at a great cost of life but survival of all species. Cerberus becomes a force for good and all races, maybe rolled into Spectre as a private army to support it's operatives.

A renegade ending, reapers are destroyed but basically every race other than humans has been practically eradicated. Human rule universe through Cerberus.

 

[DueAccident]

I think everyone who didn't die in the end of ME2 will die in the beginning of ME3, creating storylines for so many characters is a lot of work.

Bioware knows that if they do that, they will have legions of angry fanboys ( me included, don´t you dare touch my beloved Legion) storming their headquarters and demanding heads, so I highly doubt that.

I think the most logical way to go about this problem would be to just create a lot more new followers 3rd time around, say 10 more in addition to your ME2 crew. However, you'll only be able to choose 10 for your final squad. So if the entire squad died in ME2, then your new squad will be all new characters. If most of your squad survived, though, then you will have to pick and choose 10 for your final team from the pool. That's how I'd do it, anyways.

I love that idea, could be so great. Could lead to you making a poor decision, team selection wise, and coming up against a problem that you hadn't anticipated, leading to consequences. Would reward forward thinking and analysis of your squad; though hopefully not punishing past decisions *too* hard.

As long as you're going to be able to bone Chakwas ME3 will be great.

Oh god, that's terrible.

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I love this thread, so full of great speculation. The thing I am most interested to see is how the end situation is eventually resolved; how the fk are we going to beat *THAT* many reapers? I cant' see how we can technologically beat them, so the collector ship surely won't help that much? We are only really catching up to them, rather than beating them.
It'd be odd if they had included their one critical weakness within the ship somewhere.

I am not sure how uniting the galaxy would even help really. The Rachnii are surely pretty useless against the reapers? It also took the entire might of the armada at the Citadel to take out the first, single reaper, that allowed itself to be in a vulnerable position as a sacrifice to open the gate for the rest of the reapers. I have no idea how, even with every available ship on hand, we could hope to beat the sheer number of reapers, who wouldn't be putting them in vulnerable situations.

Will be interesting though, no doubt. I really hope, and have no reason to doubt Bioware wouldn't do this, that they don't start with the "we win" mentality and try to work towards it, but more actually let you have the option of DOOMING the galaxy, even, if you screw up too badly.

I also like the idea of the Mordin/Thane thing, if anyone can help Thane it's him surely. Equally interesting will be the Quarian/Geth situation.

One thing I think we ALL agree with is while I definitely want bioware to take their precious time on this to make it perfect, god damnit...I want it now..

 

[WINDOWCLEAN2]

As long as Garrus is still alive I shall be pleased, I love that scar-faced Turian I do.

 

[AMMO Kid]

I just hope that you can keep Garrus, Tali, Mordin, and Legion - that is all.

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Oh, and I hope they don't do a LOST ending - Great ending until the last 5 minutes and they pull a "We're all already dead anyway" ending...

 

[blindthrall]

I love this thread, so full of great speculation. The thing I am most interested to see is how the end situation is eventually resolved; how the fk are we going to beat *THAT* many reapers? I cant' see how we can technologically beat them, so the collector ship surely won't help that much? We are only really catching up to them, rather than beating them.
It'd be odd if they had included their one critical weakness within the ship somewhere.

I am not sure how uniting the galaxy would even help really. The Rachnii are surely pretty useless against the reapers? It also took the entire might of the armada at the Citadel to take out the first, single reaper, that allowed itself to be in a vulnerable position as a sacrifice to open the gate for the rest of the reapers. I have no idea how, even with every available ship on hand, we could hope to beat the sheer number of reapers, who wouldn't be putting them in vulnerable situations.

Will be interesting though, no doubt. I really hope, and have no reason to doubt Bioware wouldn't do this, that they don't start with the "we win" mentality and try to work towards it, but more actually let you have the option of DOOMING the galaxy, even, if you screw up too badly.

Jeff Goldblum will figure out a virus which makes them all explode, considerately moving away from populated planets when they do so.

Just kidding. Man that would suck. Then again...EDI does mention anti-Reaper algorithms. Maybe the key is to introduce variations in their runtimes, like the heretic geth, and hope those differences of opinions will have them fighting each other. They are independent, after all, hive minds (mind hives?) only within the same Reaper.

It took the combined might of Council space to kill ONE. Unless a superweapon is developed, like giving every cruiser a version of the Klendagon gun, I don't see how a military option is viable. The thing is that we really don't know the Reaper's motivations, other than a vague procreation process. Knowing how Mass Effect has gone so far, the only viable option might be to fight the Reapers into a compromise. If what they really want is all of humanity so they can build a new Reaper...I could see the rest of the galaxy offering up humanity as a sacrifice. It's the same problem Lovecraft had. When your villains are godlike, how do you create a believable happy ending? His solution was to never write happy endings.

That's another thing Mass Effect 3 needs: Reaper cults. Maybe that's why the Council keeps it from the public.