Mass Effect 3: The Process

[Burst6]

Yah the ending was pretty shit. But here something that will at least make it interesting if true. http://social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1

Basically it states that the entire part with the citadel was an indoctrination test set by the reapers in Sheppard's death coma, its an interesting read the theirs allot of evidence to support it.

Still pisses me off though cause that means it's incomplete and they will charge us for the ending. Not cool man, not cool.

Wow.. that actually makes sense.

It explains why the generic pistol never ran out of ammo and didn't need to reload.
It explains how, when you get to the illusive man, the wards still have the lights of cars moving in them.


You better make the DLC free bioware...

 

[NoaNeumann]

I'm just going to leave this changing the ending petition here....
http://www.change.org/petitions/bioware-corp-we-want-a-dlc-that-changes-the-last-minutes-of-the-game?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=share_with_facebook_friends

 

[Beesejar]

I think the final stage is Vengence

 

[Tomo Stryker]

Ya, the disappointment is already gone, it was replaced by denial and rage. Now I'm just depressed because all my trust and previous faith in Bioware is completely gone, in one not so subtle stroke.

Great job Bioware, you now have one less buyer in your next game. Cheers!

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

I find the attempts to justify the endings extremely pathetic. Look, if 95 (honestly it's probably more) percent of people didn't like your ending, and almost all of those people went through the the other games and this one so they obviously like this sort of thing, YOU'VE MADE A COLOSSAL FUCK UP.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Huh, it's like Dragon Age 2 all over again. Well, for me. That's more or less what I did.

Its worse than DA2. Atleast DA2 game some information on what happened afterwards.

ME3 has single line "Shepard is legend". Yeah. Ok.

OT: Me, I am steady on the acceptance by now. And by that I mean I dont care if world ends in 2012. In fact I'm kinda hoping it does.

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

Spoiler: Shepard and his friends...

are a story told by a grandfather to a child.

Really.

Not making this up, that's the ending of Mass Effect.

...Wait, you're kidding.

No, you must be fucking joking.

Yeah, that's it. It's a joke...Right?

........Right?

Oh god please tell me you're joking.

...You're not joking are you.

That's actually the ending.

That's actually the ending to fucking mass effect. That's actually the ending to my favourite rpg series of all time.

...Yup, I'm gonna go kill myself now. See ya.

No, wait I gotta survive high school. I know a nuclear plant pretty close to here. I'm gonna see if I can make a nuclear bomb TO KILL EVERYONE WHO DID THIS.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Huh, it's like Dragon Age 2 all over again. Well, for me. That's more or less what I did.

Its worse than DA2. Atleast DA2 game some information on what happened afterwards.

ME3 has single line "Shepard is legend". Yeah. Ok.

OT: Me, I am steady on the acceptance by now. And by that I mean I dont care if world ends in 2012. In fact I'm kinda hoping it does.

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

Spoiler: Shepard and his friends...

are a story told by a grandfather to a child.

Really.

Not making this up, that's the ending of Mass Effect.

Yep.

Spoiler

That includes detailed descriptions of the sex.

That is just horribly disturbing.

Oh god I don't think I can do the romance scenes anymore.

Well..They somehow managed to ruin the entire series. I'm gonna see what I can do about that nuclear bomb plan

 

[Danpascooch]

Huh, it's like Dragon Age 2 all over again. Well, for me. That's more or less what I did.

Its worse than DA2. Atleast DA2 game some information on what happened afterwards.

ME3 has single line "Shepard is legend". Yeah. Ok.

OT: Me, I am steady on the acceptance by now. And by that I mean I dont care if world ends in 2012. In fact I'm kinda hoping it does.

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

Spoiler: Shepard and his friends...

are a story told by a grandfather to a child.

Really.

Not making this up, that's the ending of Mass Effect.

The moment I saw that, I couldn't help imagining

Spoiler

The guy turning to the kid and saying "Hey kid, did I ever tell you about the time the Shepard TOTALLY had sex with a Quarian?"

That ending was disturbing for multiple reasons.

 

[Goremocker]

Probably won't buy the game... too poor. played the first and second though. Liked em. So I looked up the endings to 3. Eh... Don't see the big issue. The community seems a tad too crazy over it. Why does every ending need to be the happy ending like,"and then Garrus and Shep got married and lived happily ever after". I like that ending, but it's nothing special.

 

[Steampunk Viking]

I can see where everyone is coming from but, honestly? I was expecting worse from the comments.

I think, if taken as "that literally happened", then it's okay, if taken metaphorically and interwoven with existing philosophy, it's a thought provoking end. However, I personally favour the indoctrination theory as it makes much more sense.

Or, something I prefer even more to either of these ideas, Drew Karpyshyn's original ending:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/39736/revealed-the-mass-effect-3-ending-bioware-canned-before-release/

 

[disgruntledgamer]

Bioware is dead to me.

 

[Mr Companion]

This is why I stopped playing at 1...Yeah. I saw it coming.

Quicker than me, I saw it coming after 2. I decided this story could never be un-stupided or fixed after the reapers were building terminator out of human smoothie by teaming up with incredibly stupid aliens who think an ambush means letting your enemies into the center of your base and giving them all your sensitive information, then building a pathway out for them and only sending five guys at a time to stop them. No longer an RPG, but another cover based shooter with a bit more plot. I knew then the third game would be just as it is. All this news about controversy and bad endings comes as no surprise whatsoever.

 

[The Ubermensch]

Thats not what happened, i remember the ending, and that i though "Well, maybe i didn't have enough EMS" and then i remember getting angry after i looked at the next ending, and then i started bargaining on the BWS forum for the ending DLC and then i cried my self to sleep. I woke up and it was all a dream

I never finished ME3

IT WAS ALL A DREAM!!!

 

[knight4light]

i wouldnt go that far. Yeah the ending could have been better. but people are getting mad about the choices?... me 2 ended almost the same way... destroy or hand over base remember. paragon or renegade. yeah they had a bit where they had to run back to the normandy but still. almost the exact same. This time yes they have 2 choices... 3 if you meet certain requirements (middle unlocked at 2600 war assets i believe) but the effectiveness of the two choices vary. if you have over 4-5k assets its pretty much the "best" version of the two choices. if you start having less and less asset points. the impact of the choices are weakened. i believe if its like less than 2k assets or something you down right fail and your ending fails and earth is destroyed and all sorts of stuff. people say the ending comes down to choices. just remember. it takes all your decisions before then to build up the fleet. to bring in allies. to get you to the 5k mark. at least then the renegades have a chance of shep not well you know. the creators said this would be the final chapter of comander sheperd. So the endings were fine to me. What they could do is have a cutscene maybe at the memorial to her/him. with a giant statue in the armor (to save them having to render the actual physical face/hair/etc) and everyone gives their final respects. i personally think the middle path was best.

oh and is it wierd that i think i drempt about the ending choices scene...like.. 3 years ago. seriously.. i saw that and was like.. "woah.. dejavu.. i've seen this before"

 

[Zen Toombs]

Not....quite my reaction......

I will say that I recently realized that the ending is mostly in line with the endings of the other games. We just accepted them and thought they were cool because we thought each game was leading to an epic conclusion in the third installment.

And we were wrong.

.. .. Yes they were. So.. so very dead wrong. *cries on your shoulder*

<spoiler=The Ending of ME3>

I just beat Mass Effect 3, and.. I am seriously lost for words. I beat Mass Effect 1 and 2 just so I could finish the series and, I.. I-I get the ending.. where Shepard takes full control of the reapers by holding onto the zapping electronic rods off some machine. Beforehand, Shepard.. he loses Garrus and Tali. Garrus was my best friend, and Tali was my favorite character in the game.

In fact I romanced Tali in ME2 and ME3.. just so I could lose her within a second..

They died.. they died while running to the Citedal beam. Lying there, and .. what the crap afterwards with talking to the Illusive Man plus the child- gosh darn it. NOOOOOOOOO this was just an amazing experience as I played through the series and I end up with this weird crap. All my efforts of being as good as possible feel wasted, seriously.. I-I need some sleep. I'm really seeing the reason why so many are upset at Bioware now. They killed off Tali, and I had no control over her fate thus I lost Shepard. What the crap... this comic expresses my reaction perfectly.

Actually, neither Tali nor Garrus died. None of your squadmates do. It's kindof weird, but and one of the plot holes. For some reason they are on the Normandy, don't ask why.

EDIT: On another note, we're friends on Xbox live right? We should play multiplayer sometime. It's a lot of fun.

 

[Falsename]

And For This Exact Reason I'm DRINKING TILL I FALL OFF OF THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH!

Drinking Game: Every time you feel sad/disappointed by the result. You take a drink!

 

[mdqp]

This is why I stopped playing at 1...Yeah. I saw it coming.

Quicker than me, I saw it coming after 2. I decided this story could never be un-stupided or fixed after the reapers were building terminator out of human smoothie by teaming up with incredibly stupid aliens who think an ambush means letting your enemies into the center of your base and giving them all your sensitive information, then building a pathway out for them and only sending five guys at a time to stop them. No longer an RPG, but another cover based shooter with a bit more plot. I knew then the third game would be just as it is. All this news about controversy and bad endings comes as no surprise whatsoever.

This. I will add that (despite its many flaws in the combat mechanics) I liked only ME1. I didn't like the changes in the combat (even if it flowed better, admittedly) from the ME1 to ME2, but what really was ridiculous is the you die and then resurrect within the first 5 minutes of the story, which was a poorly thought plot device to cut the ties with the ending of the ME1 and force you into an unlikely alliance with Cerberus, out of gratitude. This is really stupid because the illusive man is an extremely pragmatic man. He would never waste tons of money on the unlikely project of resurrecting someone, hoping this person would help him in his efforts better than a whole army, and this without even considering that this person might refuse him because he doesn't agree with his ideas, he doesn't like his methods, and frankly, because he is annoying. The illusive man never had any qualms in using humans as expendables, yet he doesn't place any system to control Shepard in his brain... Why? You hear that crap about "Shepard must be exactly how he was before" but that doesn't mean that you can't place a failsafe in case he refuses you... And this without putting out the fact that you can't reconstruct the brain once it loses its microstructure, unless you have a copy of how it was before (this accepting the fact that you CAN reconstruct it at all). ME2 was a detour on the main story, and it was only a good character development that saved it from being a complete wreck. The same can't be said about the ME3, unfortunately, which IS a complete wreck, for me. I know that many won't share my pessimistic view on the whole game, but I find that the story is simply bad, with the whole "we don't believe you Shepard" played out again until it's impossible to deny the truth, the choices from the previous games that turn out to be cosmetic several times, the after-attack attempts at dealing with the Reapers (that should be impossible to stop), etc.

Regarding the ending

Spoiler

It's stupid, because they say to you that they are saving the organics, but: If that's saving the organics, than it's the same as saying "we put this one cell of a human being in the freezer, and then we kill every other human, we saved them!". A human being isn't only its genetic informations, but the expression of said informations. Also, the Reapers are getting killed, because they wait until the organics can oppose them, for some reason. This means that the ancient races that were "saved" by them before, get killed, too, making their actions pointless. Also, you proved that the synthetic can live together with the organics. Furthermore, the idea of the synthetics inevitably trying to kill the organics every time is stupid, too, even without considering the Geth. The synthetics have different needs than organics, they can easily live without harming each other. It's stupid that such a (supposedly) advanced AI lets a single member of the species he has been harvesting for thousands of years decide what's best for everyone, because it has been doing that very same thing without ever going through the troubles of consulting them, and also because who got there wasn't really chosen for his merits. ANYONE could have reached that room, if for example, Shepard died before reaching it. Furthermore, 2 of the 3 possible solutions aren't solutions at all, and they shouldn't be there at all. Destroying the reapers and all the current syntethics doesn't make the creation of new syntethics impossible, which is bad, according to the AI, because it would bring the result it was trying to avoid. Controlling the reapers is bad, too, because the AI can't possibly know what you will do with them (you might even go crazy through the process). The only ending that slightly makes sense is the middle ground... Except that it doesn't make sense, too, because if such a thing was possible, the AI would have done that a long time ago, solving the problem forever (You can breed a living being for that purpose, if you can harvest countless civilizations). I could go on and on, but you get it.