am i one of the stupid onesEcksTeaSea said:So much stupidity coming from people about this.
A quote where Bioware says the story wont be incomplete has been posted in this thread. That is why I ignored you the last time you quoted me. Now I can link you to this thread, but I am certain you know how to find it by now.Zeel said:Where do they say this?Yopaz said:That is not what I have been saying. What I have been saying is that Bioware says that the important parts of the story containing him will be present, but you wont have him in your squad. Really, I wont bother to go on with this because I am repeating the same thing over and over here, but you don't seem to bother to read what I am saying.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:So, we ignore the leaks because Bioware swore he wouldnt be central to the story, honest. Sounds alright. Not like Bioware has been untruthful before, right?Yopaz said:OK, you're clearly not reading my post. I KNOW that the story has been leaked. I have never denied it. All I am saying is that Bioware claims that the important story element connected to the character are intact, but you wont have him in your squad or get the sidequests. Neither of your links prove that wrong. Someone played the beta, sure, but a beta is not the same as the finished game. You got nothing that states the story will be incomplete so you are not being reasonable. It doesn't get any more simple than that.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:You do know that the game was leaked in an xbox live screw up and since then the game has been playable, with a few subtitles and facial textures missing, right?Yopaz said:You base that statement on nothing but some leaked story that no-one can say will be in both version of the game or not since so far no-one has played it.
Because thats what happened, and a bunch of people have played it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114063-Xbox-Live-Beta-Testers-Get-Accidental-Peek-at-Mass-Effect-3
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114242-Mass-Effect-3-Story-Leaked-BioWare-Accepting-Feedback
I'd quit but video games are one of the only things keeping me saneruthaford_jive said:I swear... this industry is getting worse and worse. I wouldn't be surprised if I just quit games all together in the next few years.
how much do you know and how much of it is really fact all we have right now is what bioware told us and some leaked script that may not be the whole thing anywayZeel said:That's a different claim than "Prothean character included, playability not".Yopaz said:A quote where Bioware says the story wont be incomplete has been posted in this thread. That is why I ignored you the last time you quoted me. Now I can link you to this thread, but I am certain you know how to find it by now.Zeel said:Where do they say this?Yopaz said:That is not what I have been saying. What I have been saying is that Bioware says that the important parts of the story containing him will be present, but you wont have him in your squad. Really, I wont bother to go on with this because I am repeating the same thing over and over here, but you don't seem to bother to read what I am saying.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:So, we ignore the leaks because Bioware swore he wouldnt be central to the story, honest. Sounds alright. Not like Bioware has been untruthful before, right?Yopaz said:OK, you're clearly not reading my post. I KNOW that the story has been leaked. I have never denied it. All I am saying is that Bioware claims that the important story element connected to the character are intact, but you wont have him in your squad or get the sidequests. Neither of your links prove that wrong. Someone played the beta, sure, but a beta is not the same as the finished game. You got nothing that states the story will be incomplete so you are not being reasonable. It doesn't get any more simple than that.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:You do know that the game was leaked in an xbox live screw up and since then the game has been playable, with a few subtitles and facial textures missing, right?Yopaz said:You base that statement on nothing but some leaked story that no-one can say will be in both version of the game or not since so far no-one has played it.
Because thats what happened, and a bunch of people have played it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114063-Xbox-Live-Beta-Testers-Get-Accidental-Peek-at-Mass-Effect-3
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114242-Mass-Effect-3-Story-Leaked-BioWare-Accepting-Feedback
I want something a little more tangible than some tosser going off about how complete the game is. You are claiming the only difference of the DLC is the playability. Is there confirmation of that? For as much as know, the prothean was hacked out only for your blessed DLC.
There was a quote from Bioware and that is far more tangible than your statement based on nothing? Based on brief knowledge about the final game? Based on leaked information? I don't want to go on discussing this because at least I am willing to admit that I don't have the facts here. You don't have them either, but I don't think you will ever admit it. Bioware claims that the story is complete. I claim nothing. I know nothing. You know nothing. Thus the most tangible source is Bioware and we'll have to wait to find out of it's true or not.Zeel said:That's a different claim than "Prothean character included, playability not".Yopaz said:A quote where Bioware says the story wont be incomplete has been posted in this thread. That is why I ignored you the last time you quoted me. Now I can link you to this thread, but I am certain you know how to find it by now.Zeel said:Where do they say this?Yopaz said:That is not what I have been saying. What I have been saying is that Bioware says that the important parts of the story containing him will be present, but you wont have him in your squad. Really, I wont bother to go on with this because I am repeating the same thing over and over here, but you don't seem to bother to read what I am saying.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:So, we ignore the leaks because Bioware swore he wouldnt be central to the story, honest. Sounds alright. Not like Bioware has been untruthful before, right?Yopaz said:OK, you're clearly not reading my post. I KNOW that the story has been leaked. I have never denied it. All I am saying is that Bioware claims that the important story element connected to the character are intact, but you wont have him in your squad or get the sidequests. Neither of your links prove that wrong. Someone played the beta, sure, but a beta is not the same as the finished game. You got nothing that states the story will be incomplete so you are not being reasonable. It doesn't get any more simple than that.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:You do know that the game was leaked in an xbox live screw up and since then the game has been playable, with a few subtitles and facial textures missing, right?Yopaz said:You base that statement on nothing but some leaked story that no-one can say will be in both version of the game or not since so far no-one has played it.
Because thats what happened, and a bunch of people have played it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114063-Xbox-Live-Beta-Testers-Get-Accidental-Peek-at-Mass-Effect-3
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114242-Mass-Effect-3-Story-Leaked-BioWare-Accepting-Feedback
I want something a little more tangible than some tosser going off about how complete the game is. You are claiming the only difference of the DLC is the playability. Is there confirmation of that? For as much as know, the prothean was hacked out only for your blessed DLC.
Can I be honest with you and tell you that your freshly-registered account and single post reeks of poor shilling?lord Claincy Ffnord said:I can perfectly understand the feelings of everyone who is very angry about this, my first reaction was anger. But then I stopped and thought about it for a bit and there is a really important point that people seem to be forgetting. Unless I'm completely mistaken it was stated early that the collectors edition would contain an additional squadmate and a mission for them. Bioware has simply made it in the form of free DLC for those who bought the collector's edition and as a bonus made it available for the rest of us right off the bat. The other important point that has been mentioned before is that it was made during gold time, so it wasnt cutting into development time at all and couldn't be released as part of the full game anyway. SO if some of you would rather they had included it as part of the full game and had to wait another month for the game to come out. Personally I am perfectly happy to pay for the DLC. The main reason behind all of the anger against it is simply the stigma against day 1 DLC along with the importance of protheans to the ME universe.
If Bioware's word is suspect because they are a company out to make money YOUR word is EQUALLY as a suspect because your a random person on the internet trying to start hate against Bioware.Zeel said:A company only goal is to profit: their word is HIGHLY suspect, and all the evidence only supports this.
You have seen footage, you may even have played the demo. You know nothing of what we are talking about here. You don't know what parts of the story they will chop off, or if they will give us a complete story. It is quite possible they are lying when they say we will get the full story, read my post where I said that I know nothing if this is true or not. Also note my wording. I am not saying that we will get the full game. I am saying Bioware claims. I use the word claim because I can't prove we actually get it. Can you prove that Bioware is lying? Do you know more than the developers of the game? All I am saying is that we should complain if they actually chop out important story, but as of today we can't say for sure. I also repeat that if they do cut away story then they deserve the hate they are getting.Zeel said:Oh send that ship down another river.Yopaz said:There was a quote from Bioware and that is far more tangible than your statement based on nothing? Based on brief knowledge about the final game? Based on leaked information? I don't want to go on discussing this because at least I am willing to admit that I don't have the facts here. You don't have them either, but I don't think you will ever admit it. Bioware claims that the story is complete. I claim nothing. I know nothing. You know nothing. Thus the most tangible source is Bioware and we'll have to wait to find out of it's true or not.Zeel said:That's a different claim than "Prothean character included, playability not".Yopaz said:A quote where Bioware says the story wont be incomplete has been posted in this thread. That is why I ignored you the last time you quoted me. Now I can link you to this thread, but I am certain you know how to find it by now.Zeel said:Where do they say this?Yopaz said:That is not what I have been saying. What I have been saying is that Bioware says that the important parts of the story containing him will be present, but you wont have him in your squad. Really, I wont bother to go on with this because I am repeating the same thing over and over here, but you don't seem to bother to read what I am saying.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:So, we ignore the leaks because Bioware swore he wouldnt be central to the story, honest. Sounds alright. Not like Bioware has been untruthful before, right?Yopaz said:OK, you're clearly not reading my post. I KNOW that the story has been leaked. I have never denied it. All I am saying is that Bioware claims that the important story element connected to the character are intact, but you wont have him in your squad or get the sidequests. Neither of your links prove that wrong. Someone played the beta, sure, but a beta is not the same as the finished game. You got nothing that states the story will be incomplete so you are not being reasonable. It doesn't get any more simple than that.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:You do know that the game was leaked in an xbox live screw up and since then the game has been playable, with a few subtitles and facial textures missing, right?Yopaz said:You base that statement on nothing but some leaked story that no-one can say will be in both version of the game or not since so far no-one has played it.
Because thats what happened, and a bunch of people have played it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114063-Xbox-Live-Beta-Testers-Get-Accidental-Peek-at-Mass-Effect-3
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114242-Mass-Effect-3-Story-Leaked-BioWare-Accepting-Feedback
I want something a little more tangible than some tosser going off about how complete the game is. You are claiming the only difference of the DLC is the playability. Is there confirmation of that? For as much as know, the prothean was hacked out only for your blessed DLC.
I know "nothing". So all that footage, and information about the game is just total utter nonsense then, right? I mean the EA game trend of hacking off games for dlc's means nothing right? You are delusional. How much information do I have to see before it's "okay" to make a conclusion? Cause I'm seeing quite alot of it and its bad.
Bioware also claiming shit but then it turning out to be an utter lie means nothing right? I mean theres a first time for everythign, right,? right!?@? NO!
A company only goal is to profit: their word is HIGHLY suspect, and all the evidence only supports this.
The difference is Batman is a integral part of a batman movie, the Prothean being a squadmate in Mass Effect 3 is not.Mr.Squishy said:Okay, so this is the new thing to do then? Right. I'll make the next Batman movie (Move over, Mr. Nolan, I can take it from here). That'll be the price of a regular movie ticket. But see, while I don't want to detract from the core experience, I will be charging an extra 20 bucks for all the scenes with Batman in them. Sounds lovely, doesn't it?