Mass Effect 3's ending wasn't that bad...

[LordofPurple]

I haven't checked but I have no doubt that this forum has a lot of Mass Effect 3 ending topics.

(POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD, OBVIOUSLY)



I'd just like to say that I really didn't think the ending was that bad. In fact, I loved it and wouldn't change a thing about it.
Yeah, it pulled a deus ex machina out of its ass but... I'm just okay with that, I guess. It wasn't that bad and I thought fit into the story of a science fantasy game fairly well. Cop-out? Maybe. But it resolved it well enough. Yeah there are "what-ifs", but I like when there's little things you can fill in with your imagination. Look at the movie Inception: that ending had an EXTREME "fill-in-the-gap-yourself" ending but everyone loved that movie.
As for all the choices you made prior not directly affecting the outcome... when have they ever? In Mass Effect 1 you had the choice to save or lose the council. In Mass Effect 2 you could keep or destroy the geth base (and yeah your team mates could die, but that didn't affect the ending of the game itself unless they were ALL killed).
I also felt that each choice was a self-contained story. (MORE POSSIBLE SPOILERS) In mine I cured the Krogan of the genophage so I know they managed to reproduce and thrive; Earth was saved from destruction; the Quarians have back their home planet and live peacefully with the geth. These things didn't directly affect the ending, but I still know they happened, and I feel happier for it. I'm personally fine with this.
The fact that Earth is now stuck with entire fleets surrounding it afterward is, to me, another really exciting thing to think about. Maybe they all die. Maybe all end up finding a way to survive. Again, like Inception's ending, it was left up to us to decide and I enjoy that.
PLEASE don't flame me, I'm only stating my opinion and I would genuinely (not being condescending, I promise!) like to hear yours, because I myself really don't understand all the absolute hate. I was happy and comfortable with the ending I chose.

Although maybe I just handled it better because everyone set me up for it to be MUCH worse than it was.

 

[Juan Regular]

Man, you have no idea how much I wish I could look at it like this.

 

[LordofPurple]

MAN I'M REALLY STIRRIN' UP THE CONTROVERSY NOW AREN'T I?

 

[LordofPurple]

Again, everyone had me prepped for it to be literally the worst ending ever but, even from the standpoint of how it's technically flawed...it's just "not-that-great" at worst. Once again, IMO.

 

[tippy2k2]

I 100% agree and from all the bitching I saw in this forum, I expected Shepard to wake up after being in a coma for years because he touched the beacon thingy in Mass Effect 1.

I loved the ending...there, I said it...I.fucking.loved.the.ending.

A big point of the series has been destiny and fulfilling ones destiny. All of my actions were a journey to get up to that destiny. But the point of a destiny is that no matter how you get there, the end is going to be the same.

Now granted, each "ending" may have been different. I chose the merger ending, which is exactly what I think my Shepard would have done. Maybe the other two are giant turd sandwiches but the ending I saw was great.

EDIT: I literally just finished it seconds ago. Maybe if I think about these "plot holes" that people keep rallying on about will do something but I doubt it. The "race above the reapers" has always been hinted at during the game, I didn't think it came out of nowhere at all.

 

[Juan Regular]

Maybe the other two are giant turd sandwiches but the ending I saw was great.

The other endings are just blue and red versions of the one you´ve seen.

 

[LordofPurple]

I 100% agree and from all the bitching I saw in this forum, I expected Shepard to wake up after being in a coma for years because he touched the trigger thingy in Mass Effect 1.

I loved the ending...there, I said it...I.fucking.loved.the.ending.

A big point of the series has been destiny and fulfilling ones destiny. All of my actions were a journey to get up to that destiny. But the point of a destiny is that no matter how you get there, the end is going to be the same.

Now granted, each "ending" may have been different. I chose the merger ending, which is exactly what I think my Shepard would have done. Maybe the other two are giant turd sandwiches but the ending I saw was great.

Ditto. I can definitely see why people would get mad because it was a total cop-out, but it's a cop-out that made me feel sentimental and all those good "omg my favorite series ever is over" feelings.

 

[Vanitas likes Bubbles]

They were....... okay... but that doesnt mean there acceptalbe.

Pretty sure zeel will be on this soon and ripping you to shreds for having an opinion that's not his.

 

[Lithan]

Look at the movie Inception: that ending had an EXTREME "fill-in-the-gap-yourself" ending but everyone loved that movie.

Lul wat? I don't know anyone with an IQ above that of a potato that loved that movie. When South park rips on something for being stupid, it's pretty freaking stupid.

Brings up a point I'm curious about. Is it really just a gullibility factor? Are the people who like the ending the people who would buy the Brooklyn bridge? When it comes right down to it, are these the same people who think that the Twilight series is dramatic and well written, or people who read Harry Potter devotedly even though they were in their thirties? Are we looking at people, one group who expected The Usual Suspects, the other who expected Evangelion?

 

[LordofPurple]

Look at the movie Inception: that ending had an EXTREME "fill-in-the-gap-yourself" ending but everyone loved that movie.

Lul wat? I don't know anyone with an IQ above that of a potato that loved that movie. When South park rips on something for being stupid, it's pretty freaking stupid.

...A LOT of people liked that movie. Loved it.

 

[tippy2k2]

They were....... okay... but that doesnt mean there acceptalbe.

Pretty sure zeel will be on this soon and ripping you to shreds for having an opinion that's not his.

I've been avoiding ME3 threads like the plague for the last two weeks and I'm aware of who Zeel is.

Is he going to be like the ME3 ending; everyone trashes it but in reality it's really not that bad?

...A LOT of people liked that movie. Loved it.

And I highly enjoyed "Inception"

 

[Lithan]

"And I highly enjoyed "Inception""

And you liked the ending of ME3.

Both are ridiculous, poorly written, and examples of abstract for the sake of abstract, and taken to a degree where they must become their own justification for they crumble under any real scrutiny. I'd liken it to the people who bought those paintings by that gorilla that they taught to hold a brush and convinced themselves that it had artistic merit.

 

[Lucem712]

It's all opinion based. Sure, you loved it, lotta people hated it. Even if Bioware does something about it, doesn't have to change your experience.

It's kind of sad, all things considered. Bioware once considered this beacon of hope (writing wise) in the Industry and they pull a lazy ending (Even the people that liked the ending can admit it was a bit lazy) ...I think it'd been different if it was someone else. Regardless of this outcome, I think Bioware had been tarnished. It's unfortunate.

 

[LordofPurple]

It's all opinion based. Sure, you loved it, lotta people hated it. Even if Bioware does something about it, doesn't have to change your experience.

It's kind of sad, all things considered. Bioware once considered this beacon of hope (writing wise) in the Industry and they pull a lazy ending (Even the people that liked the ending can admit it was a bit lazy) ...I think it'd been different if it was someone else. Regardless of this outcome, I think Bioware had been tarnished. It's unfortunate.

Oh I won't deny at all it was a lazy ending. I was just okay with it.
But I agree. Karpshyn's absence really screwed everyone over. I think even prior to the ending, Mass Effect 3 was still the weakest of the series.

 

[Lucem712]

It's all opinion based. Sure, you loved it, lotta people hated it. Even if Bioware does something about it, doesn't have to change your experience.

It's kind of sad, all things considered. Bioware once considered this beacon of hope (writing wise) in the Industry and they pull a lazy ending (Even the people that liked the ending can admit it was a bit lazy) ...I think it'd been different if it was someone else. Regardless of this outcome, I think Bioware had been tarnished. It's unfortunate.

Oh I won't deny at all it was a lazy ending. I was just okay with it.
But I agree. Karpshyn's absence really screwed everyone over. I think even prior to the ending, Mass Effect 3 was still the weakest of the series.

Even though I really loved ME2 (Since I'm a PS user, my first ME); maybe Bioware did make a big mistake going more for 'shooter with RPG elements' I know they were doing it to streamline and attract more players. But, maybe if they had kept it tight and more niche, instead of a blockbuster type, things would have been different.

 

[LordofPurple]

It's all opinion based. Sure, you loved it, lotta people hated it. Even if Bioware does something about it, doesn't have to change your experience.

It's kind of sad, all things considered. Bioware once considered this beacon of hope (writing wise) in the Industry and they pull a lazy ending (Even the people that liked the ending can admit it was a bit lazy) ...I think it'd been different if it was someone else. Regardless of this outcome, I think Bioware had been tarnished. It's unfortunate.

Oh I won't deny at all it was a lazy ending. I was just okay with it.
But I agree. Karpshyn's absence really screwed everyone over. I think even prior to the ending, Mass Effect 3 was still the weakest of the series.

Even though I really loved ME2 (Since I'm a PS user, my first ME); maybe Bioware did make a big mistake going more for 'shooter with RPG elements' I know they were doing it to streamline and attract more players. But, maybe if they had kept it tight and more niche, instead of a blockbuster type, things would have been different.

It's funny, but I also liked Mass Effect 2 better.
Probably destroys my credibility here, but I'm not saying I even liked it for the character leveling or the combat, but I felt the choices were harder/more powerful and the characters were a lot more likeable. I also loved the idea of the suicide mission and being able to lose your teammates.

 

[LordofPurple]

I haven't checked but I have no doubt that this forum has a lot of Mass Effect 3 ending topics.

(POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD, OBVIOUSLY)



I'd just like to say that I really didn't think the ending was that bad. In fact, I loved it and wouldn't change a thing about it.
Yeah, it pulled a deus ex machina out of its ass but... I'm just okay with that, I guess. It wasn't that bad and I thought fit into the story of a science fantasy game fairly well. Cop-out? Maybe. But it resolved it well enough. Yeah there are "what-ifs", but I like when there's little things you can fill in with your imagination. Look at the movie Inception: that ending had an EXTREME "fill-in-the-gap-yourself" ending but everyone loved that movie.
As for all the choices you made prior not directly affecting the outcome... when have they ever? In Mass Effect 1 you had the choice to save or lose the council. In Mass Effect 2 you could keep or destroy the geth base (and yeah your team mates could die, but that didn't affect the ending of the game itself unless they were ALL killed).
I also felt that each choice was a self-contained story. (MORE POSSIBLE SPOILERS) In mine I cured the Krogan of the genophage so I know they managed to reproduce and thrive; Earth was saved from destruction; the Quarians have back their home planet and live peacefully with the geth. These things didn't directly affect the ending, but I still know they happened, and I feel happier for it. I'm personally fine with this.
The fact that Earth is now stuck with entire fleets surrounding it afterward is, to me, another really exciting thing to think about. Maybe they all die. Maybe all end up finding a way to survive. Again, like Inception's ending, it was left up to us to decide and I enjoy that.
PLEASE don't flame me, I'm only stating my opinion and I would genuinely (not being condescending, I promise!) like to hear yours, because I myself really don't understand all the absolute hate. I was happy and comfortable with the ending I chose.

Although maybe I just handled it better because everyone set me up for it to be MUCH worse than it was.

Well here is my opinion.
You would've been happy with the ending regardless of how trashy it was. I just read your post hoping for a good argument. and. SURPRISE SURPRISE! there was none. All the faults of the ending you just shrug off.

If the problems of the ending don't bother you, that's fine. if you want to have a discussion on this. I need some actual points.

"meh whatever" is not a point.


Either way I stopped reading when you cited Inception as an example. Serious? ITS A MOVIE. NOT A GAME THAT SPANS HALF A DECADE.

Wow, way to not be un-condescending and mature. God forbid I don't share your opinion.

Though I am on an internet forum, aren't I?

EDIT:
Also, whether or not it's a game or a movie, STORIES are still comparable, and that's what's being compared and it had the same effect. There's no reason they can't be compared. People compare films and books all the time, so why can't it be applicable here?

 

[LordofPurple]

Did thou havest an argument? oh-migty-lord-of-neigh-arguments?

I wasn't trying to argue anything. I was stating an opinion and invited others to do the same.