Mass Effect Could Get New Multiplayer Mode

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JaymesFogarty said:
God, NO!! First Dead Space, Assassin'S Creed, Uncharted, and now Mass Effect as well? When will developers learn that sometimes, the single player experience should remain a single-player experience. All the money and time they pour into that mode could have been put into making the actual game better instead! I've no problem with multiplayer game, just games with multiplayer that definitely do not need it.
I liked Uncharted's multiplayer. It was quick and fun. A good addition to a fantastic game.

And all of you people are small minded. There are two things we know: Bioware wants some form of multiplayer component for something set in the Mass Effect universe. Big deal. Get over yourselves, everyone claims they want innovation, well here it is and it is already getting shot down when no one knows anything about it.
 

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JaymesFogarty said:
God, NO!! First Dead Space, Assassin'S Creed, Uncharted, and now Mass Effect as well? When will developers learn that sometimes, the single player experience should remain a single-player experience. All the money and time they pour into that mode could have been put into making the actual game better instead! I've no problem with multiplayer game, just games with multiplayer that definitely do not need it.
I liked Uncharted's multiplayer. It was quick and fun. A good addition to a fantastic game.

And all of you people are small minded. There are two things we know: Bioware wants some form of multiplayer component for something set in the Mass Effect universe. Big deal. Get over yourselves, everyone claims they want innovation, well here it is and it is already getting shot down when no one knows anything about it.
First of all, nice avatar. Now, the big thing you have to understand is that you rushed rather bluntly into my post. Did you read all of it? Go on, read it now.
Okay, now that you didn't listen to me at all! read it, do you see where I'm coming from? You said you liked Uncharted 2's multiplayer? I'm not arguing with that; I liked it as well. I have nothing at all against multiplayer. The issue I have with multiplayer, is that it gets crammed in far too many games, that are good enough to not need to rely on it. I never once played Bioshock and thought, "this game could really use multiplayer." However, there it was a year later in the sequel. I've played that, and I remain steadfast; multiplayer was a friendly-gestured addition to a game that it didn't suit. It felt stapled on; and the resources could have instead been used in improving the main game. Dead Space. One of the most original games I've played in a while, (well, since Bioshock, and Portal.) Again, I never wished I could hack-and-slash with ten other people in an arena. I never wanted multiplayer. Guess why? Because it doesn't belong there. Dead Space, Metal Gear Solid, and the like, are games that focus on character development, are character-driven plot, and above all a deep and satisfying single player experience. They are games made for single player. Yet all have succumbed to have multiplayer sluggishly tagged on, (and believe me, Bioshock 2 and MGS4's gameplay really did NOT suit online play.) The money put into making the online play could have been used to instead enhance the game, as people I know do not need it, nor want it. If you like your games fast-paced and online, get TF2, or MW2. If you like an interesting story, with three dimensional characters, go for MGS, or Assassin's Creed 2. Just remember that no one is saying that multiplayer is a bad thing. What gamers, (in the majority mind you) are saying, is that if they are playing a game clearly designed for a campaign only, keep it that way. If you've got any money left over developers, put it into polishing the game instead. Make what you have even better.
You've got a TF2 avatar, so I'll assume that you play it. Imagine that Valve made it as it is now, but added a campaign that cost them $1,000,000 to make. It's short, it's not that satisfying, and it feels tacked on and boring. Wouldn't you feel that instead of making a campaign in a game that wasn't designed for it, they should have invested the money instead into improving the great online play? That's the situation I'm typing about.
 

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Mass Effect + Multiplayer = Bad IF Singleplayer is neglected at all as a result.
If the singleplayer part is still as epic, awesome and brilliant as the first two games have been, immersing us in the sci-fi world and giving tense brilliant moments of our story playing out, then I've no objection to some multiplayer.
I don't have to play it. I don't have to like it. If it works, hooray for Bioware. If not, well, so long as SP is 100% what it should be, I couldn't really care less, since I won't feel cheated of money. Hey, I pre-ordered the first two when they came for PC. They had no multiplayer. Should it make a big difference? Not really.

Besides. Its Bioware.
BIOWARE.
Have faith.

...As a edited note, a MMORPG based in the ME world would be geek-gasmic. If done right.
 

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I'm going to play Mass Effect 2's multiplayer twice as much as I played Metroid Prime 2's multiplayer.
Zero multiplied by two is still zero.

Seriously, I've played through that game 3 or 4 times, and I completely forgot that it had multiplayer until you mentioned it.

I hope to God this isn't for ME3 and is instead for a spin-off series. That makes a pretty huge difference.
 

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I'll just live in hope this is going to be some AC: Brotherhood type sitution, not main franchise but close enough to still be good.
 

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So long as the singleplayer doesn't suffer too much from part of the budget being directed at this, I don't care.
 

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JaymesFogarty said:
Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
God, NO!! First Dead Space, Assassin'S Creed, Uncharted, and now Mass Effect as well? When will developers learn that sometimes, the single player experience should remain a single-player experience. All the money and time they pour into that mode could have been put into making the actual game better instead! I've no problem with multiplayer game, just games with multiplayer that definitely do not need it.
I liked Uncharted's multiplayer. It was quick and fun. A good addition to a fantastic game.

And all of you people are small minded. There are two things we know: Bioware wants some form of multiplayer component for something set in the Mass Effect universe. Big deal. Get over yourselves, everyone claims they want innovation, well here it is and it is already getting shot down when no one knows anything about it.
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First off, thank you for the kind words.

Second, you make some damn good points, but in my defense, literally only the first three sentences of my previous post were directed at you. The rest was a lazy, general statement that I disagreed with the pessimistic mood on this thread.

I do agree that multiplayer, when tacked on to a splendid single player experience not suited towards it, is a bad idea. I agree with your examples for the most part, but I would say that for all of them, multiplayer COULD theoretically work, it just remains unfulfilled. Dead Space's campaign is ill suited towards multiplayer, yes, but is Dead Space's universe ill suited towards it? Could there be a way to integrate multiplayer functionality into some new take on the Dead Space formula? Probably. Off the top of my head, while still maintaining the sense of isolation and fear, there could be a Demon's Souls type deal, where you get glimpses of ghosts of other players doing battle, or see warnings of enemies ahead, and so on.

My original point, and my point now, is that multiplayer could be literally anything involving more than one player. I'm not so quick to judge Bioware because they want to try something new. They seem to know what they are doing.

And I kinda like what they are doing with AC: Brotherhood, because it sounds like good assassin-y fun, but we won't know if it's any good until launch.

And if you are suggesting Valve would just whip out a campaign with minimal funding and development, than you don't really...what's that you say? They made a sequel to L4D ALREADY?

......I want my Episode 3......sniff
 

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Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
God, NO!! First Dead Space, Assassin'S Creed, Uncharted, and now Mass Effect as well? When will developers learn that sometimes, the single player experience should remain a single-player experience. All the money and time they pour into that mode could have been put into making the actual game better instead! I've no problem with multiplayer game, just games with multiplayer that definitely do not need it.
I liked Uncharted's multiplayer. It was quick and fun. A good addition to a fantastic game.

And all of you people are small minded. There are two things we know: Bioware wants some form of multiplayer component for something set in the Mass Effect universe. Big deal. Get over yourselves, everyone claims they want innovation, well here it is and it is already getting shot down when no one knows anything about it.
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I understand what you mean, and I think we are both typing the same thing. Multiplayer is perfectly acceptable when in a game that can support it. IF the universe the game is built around, (as you mentioned Dead Space) could theoretically have a multiplayer, than there is no problem. It's just that in games that it definitely doesn't suit, it can be frustrating.
Note: I think they pushed Portal 2 back so Valve could release it with with Half Life 2: Episode 3, and Left 4 Dead 3. The Black Box; wouldn't that just be great? And before you ask, no. I'm not high.
 

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JaymesFogarty said:
Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
God, NO!! First Dead Space, Assassin'S Creed, Uncharted, and now Mass Effect as well? When will developers learn that sometimes, the single player experience should remain a single-player experience. All the money and time they pour into that mode could have been put into making the actual game better instead! I've no problem with multiplayer game, just games with multiplayer that definitely do not need it.
I liked Uncharted's multiplayer. It was quick and fun. A good addition to a fantastic game.

And all of you people are small minded. There are two things we know: Bioware wants some form of multiplayer component for something set in the Mass Effect universe. Big deal. Get over yourselves, everyone claims they want innovation, well here it is and it is already getting shot down when no one knows anything about it.
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Note: I think they pushed Portal 2 back so Valve could release it with with Half Life 2: Episode 3, and Left 4 Dead 3. The Black Box; wouldn't that just be great? And before you ask, no. I'm not high.
Not high, just optimistic. If such a box set were to be released, Valve would have to price it at something like $100 to cover it all...Episode 3's development alone has taken years, and mixing in a full sized Portal and L4D3 (what would the boxart look like on Left 4 Dead 4???) seems like they are giving the games away...I dunno...I guess there is always a chance...maybe TF3...ah, who am I kidding, TF2 is basically TF3 with all that new content...I'm still typing? Why am I still typing? The thought of a Black Box makes me delirious...I'm gonna stop now, before the conjecture kills me...
 

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Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
Corkydog said:
JaymesFogarty said:
God, NO!! First Dead Space, Assassin'S Creed, Uncharted, and now Mass Effect as well? When will developers learn that sometimes, the single player experience should remain a single-player experience. All the money and time they pour into that mode could have been put into making the actual game better instead! I've no problem with multiplayer game, just games with multiplayer that definitely do not need it.
I liked Uncharted's multiplayer. It was quick and fun. A good addition to a fantastic game.

And all of you people are small minded. There are two things we know: Bioware wants some form of multiplayer component for something set in the Mass Effect universe. Big deal. Get over yourselves, everyone claims they want innovation, well here it is and it is already getting shot down when no one knows anything about it.
snip
Snippedy Snip.
Snap
Note: I think they pushed Portal 2 back so Valve could release it with with Half Life 2: Episode 3, and Left 4 Dead 3. The Black Box; wouldn't that just be great? And before you ask, no. I'm not high.
Not high, just optimistic. If such a box set were to be released, Valve would have to price it at something like $100 to cover it all...Episode 3's development alone has taken years, and mixing in a full sized Portal and L4D3 (what would the boxart look like on Left 4 Dead 4???) seems like they are giving the games away...I dunno...I guess there is always a chance...maybe TF3...ah, who am I kidding, TF2 is basically TF3 with all that new content...I'm still typing? Why am I still typing? The thought of a Black Box makes me delirious...I'm gonna stop now, before the conjecture kills me...
I'd pay $100 for that. And I'd imagine that for LFD4, they would simply move the 4 from the original title. Going from Left 4 Dead, to Left Dead 4. Say it out loud; the second one still sounds like it has a four, because of the residual sounds from the f. And I'm rambling; the thought of such a box set of games has me hungry for some Portal.
 

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What if they do a top-down multiplayer reinvent of the ME universe, like Tomb Raider and the Guardian of Light? I'd love to mow down a legion of husks while I stand back-to-back with Grunt.
 

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A cooperative mode might be ok. But a tacked-on multiplayer mode would just be wasted money in my eyes.
Money that could be spent improving the actual game.
 

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Keava said:
Im not sure should i cry or cheer. On one hand i like ME for what it is, a single player quality game without the bother of pointless multiplayer addition that only brings out the worst in people. On the other hand, i enjoy playing with friends and surely a multiplayer ME universe could be interesting depending on the type of game. There is also the fat that TOR dialog system is tailored for multiplayer expierience so maybe a co-op is possible in ME3 or further games set in the universe.
That's part of what has me interested in it. I kind of suspect ME3 itself will continue to work like the first two and be purely single-player to wrap up the trilogy, but there's plenty of stuff they could do in a game set in the same universe with multi-player co-op stuff. Like you said, they've already got the multi-player dialog system, and they've made multi-player co-op RPG stuff that works before like NWN. As a separate game in the ME world, I think that could be pretty interesting, and they can probably pull it off, and if it's on a smaller scale and not an MMO with a subscription fee, I might even end up playing it.