Mass effect gets hi-res tex- wait...zomg Tali's face!

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silasbufu said:
Man, this enormous amount of love for Tali just seems ridiculous to me.

Alas, each have their own tastes.
What's not to get about awkward nerds happening to love an awkward nerd? I thought it was pretty self-explanitory!
 

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xvbones said:
Also to hell with Miranda, if I have to listen to one more lecture about how she's awesome and perfect and wonderful and it's so hard to be so awesome and perfect and wonderful I am firing her out of a fucking airlock.
+2 Renegade points.

Zachary Amaranth approves.

That would be an awesome game option. Spacing the characters who annoy you.
 

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15-20 minutes of loading times? Sweet Baby Jesus.
Also, I´m pretty sure my PC couldn`t even run Tetris with that mod-text-pack-thingy.
Or something like that.
Also, might as well throw in my opinion about Tali in the pot: I thought she was quite awesome and useful, both in ME1 and 2, she and and Wrex, or that other krogan, were with me, most of the time. And good times were had.
 

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ImmortalDrifter said:
silasbufu said:
Man, this enormous amount of love for Tali just seems ridiculous to me.

Alas, each have their own tastes.
What's not to get about awkward nerds happening to love an awkward nerd? I thought it was pretty self-explanitory!

I'm actually more confused by the enormous amount of people who are really attracted to her physically. I mean, her chicken legs frighten me.

Maybe I'm the only one

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(Note to self : You are never the only one!! (Forum posting rule #26).
 

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silasbufu said:
ImmortalDrifter said:
silasbufu said:
Man, this enormous amount of love for Tali just seems ridiculous to me.

Alas, each have their own tastes.
What's not to get about awkward nerds happening to love an awkward nerd? I thought it was pretty self-explanitory!

I'm actually more confused by the enormous amount of people who are really attracted to her physically. I mean, her chicken legs frighten me.

Maybe I'm the only one

..

(Note to self : You are never the only one!! (Forum posting rule #26).
Breasts that aren't huge sagging watermelons; arse that doesn't like it's melting away from the bone (Miranda, I'm looking at you - stop shoving it in my face, dear); dem hips.

 

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xvbones said:
Can I just say that I have never understood the massively overwhelming fanwank passionate love for Tali?

She is seriously just some girl with an accent whose face you never see. Is that it? Is it the mystery? Is it the knowledge that fucking her would kill her from all the various infections?

That she is so fragile she can die from breathing unfiltered air?

And don't give me 'yeah but she's also pretty tough', because no she isn't, she's a goddamned engineer, her skillset isn't even useful unless you're going against robots.

She should be kept on the ship where she's safe and not wading through lasers and bullets and thus making herself into a monumental liability what with her extraordinary fragility.

And while we're on it, why can't Femshep fuck Mordin Solus?

(because he's too fucking awesome, that's why)

/rant
Sorry but I like the geeky chicks that is what makes her sexy.
No different then dating a hacker chick with really bad asthma because after you do it you know she'll want to watch farscape with you
 

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How exactly did a thread like this go from the mod itself to a Tali discussion IN THE FIRST POST? The internet never ceases to surprise me.

Anyways, I'm the creator of the mod so if anyone has any questions, let me know!
 

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xvbones said:
Can I just say that I have never understood the massively overwhelming fanwank passionate love for Tali?

She is seriously just some girl with an accent whose face you never see. Is that it? Is it the mystery? Is it the knowledge that fucking her would kill her from all the various infections?

That she is so fragile she can die from breathing unfiltered air?

And don't give me 'yeah but she's also pretty tough', because no she isn't, she's a goddamned engineer, her skillset isn't even useful unless you're going against robots.

She should be kept on the ship where she's safe and not wading through lasers and bullets and thus making herself into a monumental liability what with her extraordinary fragility.

And while we're on it, why can't Femshep fuck Mordin Solus?

(because he's too fucking awesome, that's why)

/rant
I second this motion, I've never seen why people are so obsessed with Tali either. It's kinda like the obsession people have with Rei from Evangelion.....and her being chopped into bits and stuffed into suitcases. o.o

As for the second part of your statement, who cares! Mordin's not a lady's man, he's a man of science! And that's why he's much better suited at having "The Talk" with Fem-Shep when she gets all randy and goes on an alien-humping binge!

Think my favorite "talk" is when he's warning you about banging Garrus, saying that "Injesting Turian protein can have adverse effects on humans including x, y, z, and mild hallucinations." "Injesting"...that means no blowjobs for Garrus or else Fem-Shep will start trippin' out! :p
 

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xvbones said:
Can I just say that I have never understood the massively overwhelming fanwank passionate love for Tali?

She is seriously just some girl with an accent whose face you never see. Is that it? Is it the mystery? Is it the knowledge that fucking her would kill her from all the various infections?

That she is so fragile she can die from breathing unfiltered air?

And don't give me 'yeah but she's also pretty tough', because no she isn't, she's a goddamned engineer, her skillset isn't even useful unless you're going against robots.

She should be kept on the ship where she's safe and not wading through lasers and bullets and thus making herself into a monumental liability what with her extraordinary fragility.

And while we're on it, why can't Femshep fuck Mordin Solus?

(because he's too fucking awesome, that's why)

/rant
+1 Internets to you, sir or madam. I laughed.

I think the fragility bit is more of a plot/story device than a gameplay aspect, but I too rarely used Tali. But on the upside she's more likable than, say, Miranda...
 

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Loop Stricken said:
[Breasts that aren't huge sagging watermelons; arse that doesn't like it's melting away from the bone (Miranda, I'm looking at you - stop shoving it in my face, dear); dem hips.
Well speaking honestly Miranda can't be more than a c-cup. Her arse... I'll second that; but Tali's is more or less the same. I can remember positioning the camera at such an angle that I could gawk at it in the elevators of ME1. And her bum hasn't gotten any smaller in more recent media...
 

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I don't remember where I heard about it in ME2. I lost track.
The Tali pre-romance talk. That's the part where Tali tells Shep that he/she is the only person she'd consider doing that with.

Male Shep says "Woah, isn't that a sexual thing?" And romance can ensue.
Fem Shep says "I trust you too, Tali." And Tali awkwardly changes the subject, possibly because FemShep just missed the fact that Tali was making an awkward pass at her.
 

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ImmortalDrifter said:
Well speaking honestly Miranda can't be more than a c-cup. Her arse... I'll second that; but Tali's is more or less the same. I can remember positioning the camera at such an angle that I could gawk at it in the elevators of ME1. And her bum hasn't gotten any smaller in more recent media...
Aye, but it's ... tighter. More toned. Firm.

Also, good to know I wasn't the only one doing that camera thing.
 

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Tom Milner said:
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I never got how the Quarians ended up with no immune system in the first place...

I mean, okay sure, they live in suits, that would do it. But why do they live in suits? Because they have no immune systems... Because they live in ships? How the how does that work, how would the mass exodus of a population in overcrowded ships result in a sterile environment? If anything it should be the opposite...
*epic snippage*
a fine explanation, but many people (not me) are gonna pass it because of it's length.
Care to point out where there is a flaw in my argument which would give you grounds to dismiss it?
Cause you're either dismissing my post because its long, which is...well you're problem and if that is what you take away from it...uhh good for you?
Or you're saying that I'm wrong and because I wrote a lot people will believe me, and you don't like that.
 

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ImmortalDrifter said:
That's quite debatable condsidering that dolphins are acutally from the same planet, have the same evolutionary history, and the same reproductive traits. Say you were forced at gun point to either have sex with a dolphin or a komodo dragon. Dolphin, yes?
Again, you're missing my point. What I was saying was that if a Dolphin hit on you, the gender of the dolphin is less important than the fact that it is a Dolphin. Yes a Komodo dragon would be worse, but fine, if you like the Komodo dragon option - if a Male Komodo dragon hit on you, would you be more weirded out by the gay, or the lizard?

I actually went with Dolphin because, given a sufficiently complex translator, a Dolphin actually could hit on you. I'm not sure a Komodo dragon has the communication skills.


ImmortalDrifter said:
Don't take my argument as anti-gay sentiment; It's about character identity. If a character flips around and changes themselves with no context it angers me regardless of the aspect. If a character is originally against a war, and then suddenly enlists to fight in it for no other reason than to support it, it angers me just as much as matters of sexuality would.

Sexuality as we know it would very much still exist. If Christianity never existed I would start finding men attractive?
There's a better than 50% chance that the answer to that is yes. No way to tell for certain. However, if casual sex with men and reproductive sex with women was the norm for men, then even if you preferred women, you'd still probably find aspects of certain men attractive. Upbringing and societal pressures are powerful things. I'm not saying you're harboring any secrets or anything, I'm saying that if our culture wasn't so into gender roles, then your brain would be wired differently.

Besides, my point wasn't that ANY character would flip, but that they always were that way and Shep just never paid enough attention to notice. But back to that below.

ImmortalDrifter said:
This isn't a matter of culture either, it's the individual. Tali shot down femshep on the basis of gender, stating "if only you were a boy". Regardless of her culture's views she is heterosexual.
Clearly you haven't played ME2 in a while. Tali has no such line. Tali actually hits on FemShep with the exact same line of dialogue she hits on Male Shep with. The only difference is that FemShep doesn't have the option to comment on the implication, whereas Male Shep does. It is FemShep that isn't interested in Tali in ME2 - Tali is clearly interested in both Shepards.

ImmortalDrifter said:
Garrus is more of a grey area than most, but the fact that manshep couldn't hit on him means that Bioware never intended him to be homo/bisexual. As stated before, if manshep can romance him, fine. Just don't retcon the fuck out of him to make it work.
No, the fact that MaleShep can't romance Garrus shows that Bioware didn't intend for MaleShep to be gay/bisexual.

Besides, Bioware has stated that the only reason they didn't have the option for a bisexual Shep from the start (in ME1) is that the actor who modeled for Male Shep's default face didn't want to be associated with anything "gay".

JeanLuc761 said:
How exactly did a thread like this go from the mod itself to a Tali discussion IN THE FIRST POST? The internet never ceases to surprise me.

Anyways, I'm the creator of the mod so if anyone has any questions, let me know!
I... um... **looks around** Huh. We did get pretty side-tracked, huh?

Anyway, um... nice mod! If I played it on PC (I didn't) then I'd totally download it. Also, here's hoping that Bioware just uses her original face behind the plate instead of designing something new.
 

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Rednog said:
Tom Milner said:
Rednog said:
VladG said:
Rednog said:
VladG said:
Jadak said:
I never got how the Quarians ended up with no immune system in the first place...

I mean, okay sure, they live in suits, that would do it. But why do they live in suits? Because they have no immune systems... Because they live in ships? How the how does that work, how would the mass exodus of a population in overcrowded ships result in a sterile environment? If anything it should be the opposite...
*epic snippage*
a fine explanation, but many people (not me) are gonna pass it because of it's length.
Care to point out where there is a flaw in my argument which would give you grounds to dismiss it?
Cause you're either dismissing my post because its long, which is...well you're problem and if that is what you take away from it...uhh good for you?
Or you're saying that I'm wrong and because I wrote a lot people will believe me, and you don't like that.
you've misunderstood me. i'm just saying that not everyone is gonna read your post because of it's length, i'm not insulting you, i'm just pointing that out.
 

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JeanLuc761 said:
How exactly did a thread like this go from the mod itself to a Tali discussion IN THE FIRST POST? The internet never ceases to surprise me.

Anyways, I'm the creator of the mod so if anyone has any questions, let me know!
what do you think of tali
 

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Capt. Crankypants said:
Huh, I must be one of the few who, whilst travelling on a mission of critical importance to the survival of the galaxy, decided it would be best NOT to bone any of my crew members. I run a tight ship, and I do not want god-damn 'days of our lives' shit going on. Come on guys, really? You're so blue-balled that you can't keep it in your pants until AFTER the galaxy is safe? o_O

Anyway, I also got a little curious about what Quarians in general looked like under the blingy-suit, and as I was stomping around the battlefield on Tali's recruitment mission, I thought...

"LOOK! There's plenty of Quarians lying on the ground already fucking dead, can't I just pull one of their masks off and have a peek? I'm a bloody renegade anyway, might as well add a few points for not respecting the dead and sate my curiosity..."

Did no-one else think of this? Really? Bioware, you lose points for common-sense. I am disappoint.
Well, actually it's important to remember that everyone in Mass Effect knows what Quarians in general look like anyway. It's just the appearance of specific individuals that are unknown.

Why? Because they have internet (or rather extranet) connections. There's got to be thousands of pictures of Quarians out of their suits on there, not to mention plenty of biological diagrams. Hence why Commander Shepard is just like 'Fuck it, let's get that helmet off!' because he's got a pretty good idea what to expect anyway.

Anyway, that's what I've always thought, and no one in any of the games actually says they don't know what a Quarian looks like at all.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
Snip to end all snips!
Sorry but rearraging this clusterfuck would be waayyy to much work for my lazy ass. But I will do my best to keep everything tidy and in order.

In some ways your right, but I can't help but feel that the anthropomorphism displayed moots your argument. The aliens in ME may as well be humans in masks. Two eyes, a nose, teeth (one of biggest), two arms and legs (the biggest), and a horizontal mouth (another of the biggest). (with the exotic exceptions once again noted.) It's easy to use the status as "alien" as an end all argument, but they're so close I doubt it holds meaning. While the gender wouldn't matter much, it would still matter. One does not simply erase the other, they compound. I'm a heterosexual male as you've probably realized. The levels of awkward I would experience being hit on by a human male and a female dolphin would be about equal. A male dolphin would combine those, the fact that he is a dolphin doesn't eliminate the difference in sexuality. I can't use this as a valid point without noting that this obviously comes down to personal bias/perference. But an encounter with a dolphin of your perferred gender would be less awkward than one of the opposite, right?

No actually I wouldn't. (again personal bias) But I find anal sex extremly disgusting, your sticking your genitals in a person's anus... That's just... dear god I can't think of words to describe it... and this is regardless of gender. Any other sexual interaction with males aside from that would be contrived. I could just as easily do it myself or have a woman do it. (and a woman would probably have softer hands) but moving on.

Really? Holy crap, well then I must be going crazy. I cede that argument completely -bows-

That is the most debatable statement I've heard in a while. The only people who would ever know would be the writers. I base my argument largely on the fact that after Garrus gets his face blown off, he says "Well everyone was ignoring you and hitting on me" to manshep. While saying "some women find facial scars attractive" to femshep; (Vid upon request) which could be used as a point to say that both manshep and Garrus are heterosexual. Due to the lack of homosexual relations in ME1, and that being a reference to ME1, it would mean only females. Is that argument a bit shaky? Yea, I admit it. But it's at least slightly more valid than ones based completely on personal conjecture. Added to the fact that his femshep line could be easily interpreted as a pick-up/testing line; Leads me to believe he is heterosexual. With that being said I don't really mind the concept of manshep pursuing Garrus, it's more of my problem with Garrus coming on to manshep when he didn't previously. (see anders the base for my original argument)

And everything else aside I have to say I'm refreshed to have a debate on the internet that doesn't leading to banning or as Yahtzee put it "the verbal equivalent of happy slaps".
 

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Loop Stricken said:
Aye, but it's ... tighter. More toned. Firm.

Also, good to know I wasn't the only one doing that camera thing.
Indeed, but sometimes you want soft and... supple...

As am I.