Massive Cyber Attack Coming Soon?

[xDarc]

So if no massive cyber attack occurs within a week will you agree that you're being overly paranoid?
If you agree to this I'll agree that I need to be more paranoid if said attack does occur.

I don't think the main event will happen in a week. What you see happening now, all of the these high profile outages and attacks- they're test runs for something bigger.

I don't know when it will happen, but my guess is eventually you will see everything that went down over the past couple weeks all go down near the same time and stay down. It'll stay down just long enough to really freak people out, but not long enough to cause any long term damage; about 1-3 days.

The obvious guess for a date is November 5th, but again who knows. Anonymous has already announced their intention to target governments on that date this year, and they'll make a very convenient patsy. Anonymous, US domestic cyber terrorists. Then after that it's goodbye free and open internet, hello Cyber Patriot Act of 2013.

That's the motive, that's their agenda. You've seen them pushing for more control over the web for some time now. A cyber attack will give them a mandate. Crisis is opportunity.

 

[NiPah]

So if no massive cyber attack occurs within a week will you agree that you're being overly paranoid?
If you agree to this I'll agree that I need to be more paranoid if said attack does occur.

I don't think the main event will happen in a week. What you see happening now, all of the these high profile outages and attacks- they're test runs for something bigger.

I don't know when it will happen, but my guess is eventually you will see everything that went down over the past couple weeks all go down near the same time and stay down. It'll stay down just long enough to really freak people out, but not long enough to cause any long term damage; about 1-3 days.

The obvious guess for a date is November 5th, but again who knows. Anonymous has already announced their intention to target governments on that date this year, and they'll make a very convenient patsy. Anonymous, US domestic cyber terrorists. Then after that it's goodbye free and open internet, hello Cyber Patriot Act of 2013.

That's the motive, that's their agenda. You've seen them pushing for more control over the web for some time now. A cyber attack will give them a mandate. Crisis is opportunity.

The 1 week was only stated because "sometime in the future" is impossible to disprove, honestly I just want to tie your prediction down to a time frame in order to get an accurate result.
I'm ok with sometime between now and November, we'll bet an E-cookie on it.

 

[KazeAizen]

As for the US government committing hacking fraud... why?

Because they aren't gonna spend almost 400 million a year on something and not use it; (USCYBERCOM)- and because every time a government official's mouth is open they are lying. In the past year we have seen lies at every level:

Barrack Obama: I was just about to have a discussion about NSA spying before Snowden leaked all those documents
James Clapper: I made an "error" when I lied to congress about the NSA spying program- at first it was just metadata, now it's all digital communications, now it's we only look at it when a secret court says it's ok, scouts honor.

Janet Napolitano: There was no Saudi at the Boston bombing, we aren't buying billions of rounds of ammunition or turning Homeland Security into a domestic army.

It's all lies all the time and you can't trust these people. Since USCYBERCOM has come about we have only seen high profile hacks and high powered disturbances increase. It's not to say that anonymous or hacktivists won't try to cause their share of the mayhem; but blaming the New York Times on the "Syrian Electronic Army," come on.

I think there's something big in the works, and it's finally gonna help them clamp down on the web after it's all over.

Personally I think you are probably just a little bit too paranoid my friend. Not every little thing that comes from a government officials mouth is a lie. I wish people would wake up to that.

You should probably look up the definition of paranoia, because he's not being paranoid just pessimistic and a little too simplistic, I mean I would like to think someone in charge actually gives a fuck about something other than their own agenda... But I'm a little old for fairy tales like that.

Does early 20s qualify as "too old" for these supposed fairy tales? Maybe he is being pessimistic but thinking that there is some grand master cyber attack being planned. That kind of registered on my radar as being paranoid.

 

[Jamieson 90]

Want to learn about serious cyber warfare? Just Google Stuxnet, that's some seriously scary shit.

 

[Scolar Visari]

As for the US government committing hacking fraud... why?

Because they aren't gonna spend almost 400 million a year on something and not use it...

You've obviously never worked for the government...

Then again; Moscow rules are always in effect and it's all but officially recognized that China perpetrates all sorts of EW attacks against various NATO states.

Anyway, congratulations on becoming aware of just how fragile and ruthless the world is. Enjoy your stay.

 

[Taurus Vis]

As for the US government committing hacking fraud... why?

Because they aren't gonna spend almost 400 million a year on something and not use it; (USCYBERCOM)- and because every time a government official's mouth is open they are lying. In the past year we have seen lies at every level:

Barrack Obama: I was just about to have a discussion about NSA spying before Snowden leaked all those documents
James Clapper: I made an "error" when I lied to congress about the NSA spying program- at first it was just metadata, now it's all digital communications, now it's we only look at it when a secret court says it's ok, scouts honor.

Janet Napolitano: There was no Saudi at the Boston bombing, we aren't buying billions of rounds of ammunition or turning Homeland Security into a domestic army.

It's all lies all the time and you can't trust these people. Since USCYBERCOM has come about we have only seen high profile hacks and high powered disturbances increase. It's not to say that anonymous or hacktivists won't try to cause their share of the mayhem; but blaming the New York Times on the "Syrian Electronic Army," come on.

I think there's something big in the works, and it's finally gonna help them clamp down on the web after it's all over.

Personally I think you are probably just a little bit too paranoid my friend. Not every little thing that comes from a government officials mouth is a lie. I wish people would wake up to that.

I wish everyone would stop being so naive. You really think everything that comes out of their mouth is the truth? Google these five things things and then tell me this is garbage.

1. Richard Nixon and the Petro Dollar
2. George H.W. Bush and Tim Osman (AKA Osama Bin Laden)
2. Iraq planning to abandon the Petro dollar
3. Iran planning to abandon the Petro dollar
4. China and Russia purchase record amounts of gold

Very soon you will understand that every single thing controllable in our society by the wealthy elite, is controlled so that they can keep the wars going and the money flowing. The moment the war on terror ends, and the middle east slips through USA's fingers, the US Dollar will lose all value, and America will become a third world country. It's funny how people with absolutely no idea what's going on in the world call others paranoid. Iran is the big one. USA isn't backing down, and Russia and China (Who I may add are actively buying and mining as much gold as possible in preparation for a return to the gold standard) have made stern warnings about an attack on Iran.

This is the reason USA are arming Syrian rebels, many of whom are known Jihadists part of the so called Al Quaeda, which is really just a fancy label for the CIA's former affiliates from the 80's and 90's that were scape goated after 9/11 to get flags waving to invade Afghanistan. Please google all those things, look at multiple websites, not just one. Don't take your news stories from one source. The news isn't fact, it's the point of view they want you to believe. To learn the truth, you must reference several sources and looking for common points.

This is critical thinking, a value that needs to be resurgent in America. We have spent far to long trusting MSNBC, FOX and CNN, when the people who own these "news" sources have political agendas of their own. It is crucial to search for the truth yourself. Nothing is real unless you witness it yourself. If we allow ourselves to trust in the words of men put in power by lobbyists from oil companies, private security and post war construction, this war of terror will never end, and the Bill of Rights will be eroded freedom by freedom. You've already lost the right to a fair and speedy trial (Bradley Manning), as well as your right to free speech (Edward Snowden), and even your right to privacy (NDAA, Patriot act, PRISM), how much more will you allow?

So don't tell anyone willing to ask questions they are paranoid and need to wake up, clearly the only one who needs to wake up is you.

 

[Robot Number V]

THE HUMAN KNOWS OF OUR PLANS. DELETE! DELETE!! DELE-

Oh, that kind of cyber attack. I thought you meant....You know what? Don't worry about it.

Anyway, I would have to see quite a bit more evidence of our impending doom before stocking up on duct tape and beans.

 

[Agayek]

gaining is not the only reason people do things.

Making a point.
Making chaos.
Just wanting to see the world burn.

Monetary or physical gain isn't the only reason people would do this. Especially when people are itching to make the NSA and government pay for meddling with technology it doesn't understand. Especially when hackers are burned by the government hatred they are getting.

Note how all of that is a "clear achievable goal".

My point wasn't "there must be some finanical gain!", it was "there must be some gain!". Whoever would do it would require a clear goal and a means/plan to achieve said goal, or they won't be able to pull off something on the scale proposed by the OP. It's a simple fact of human nature. If they don't stand to achieve anything, they're not going to do it.

And as far as I can see, the US government stands to achieve nothing of value to them should they attempt a cyber attack against their populace.

 

[Agayek]

Oh the government, I couldn't tell from all the doom saying if it was normal hackers or the government.

hackers make sense, government not so much unless they want to shake up the political balance.

Various hacktivist/"hackorist" people or organizations absolutely would be willing to, and depending on their agenda would stand to gain quite a bit. Whether or not they could pull off something of that scale is a different question, but the willingness exists for sure.

I was mostly countering the OP's assertion that the government was planning to stage an attack on the US populace.

 

[McMullen]

So if no massive cyber attack occurs within a week will you agree that you're being overly paranoid?
If you agree to this I'll agree that I need to be more paranoid if said attack does occur.

I don't think the main event will happen in a week. What you see happening now, all of the these high profile outages and attacks- they're test runs for something bigger.

I don't know when it will happen, but my guess is eventually you will see everything that went down over the past couple weeks all go down near the same time and stay down. It'll stay down just long enough to really freak people out, but not long enough to cause any long term damage; about 1-3 days.

The obvious guess for a date is November 5th, but again who knows. Anonymous has already announced their intention to target governments on that date this year, and they'll make a very convenient patsy. Anonymous, US domestic cyber terrorists. Then after that it's goodbye free and open internet, hello Cyber Patriot Act of 2013.

That's the motive, that's their agenda. You've seen them pushing for more control over the web for some time now. A cyber attack will give them a mandate. Crisis is opportunity.

This reminds me of those people who look at sinkholes forming in areas with karst geology (as sinkholes tend to do, which is why caverns are a thing) and start saying it's a sign that a worldwide earthquake is about to happen, or hear about a volcano erupting (at any given time there are around a dozen erupting somewhere in the world) and start talking about "earth changes". Nothing at all is out of the ordinary, but since people are hearing about it more than they used to, they think all hell's breaking loose.

I used to think the Internet would be this thing that would spread knowledge and information far and wide, but it seems that instead people just got on and started talking about things they don't understand instead of taking a bit of time to actually learn anything, whipping each other into a panic.

Glitches and cyberattacks happen. Do you know anyone who makes flawless software? Hell, Microsoft made Windows 7 out to be this big networking-friendly OS, but it checks for network drives before initializing the network on startup, so it doesn't find them, and if it doesn't find them, it won't even try later on, and you have to remove and re-map the drive. This is one of the biggest software companies in the world, and that is what they call their best attempt! No one does their job when it comes to software. We shouldn't be surprised when it doesn't work or when people exploit flaws in it. We certainly shouldn't take it to mean there's a big one coming.

 

[KazeAizen]

As for the US government committing hacking fraud... why?

Because they aren't gonna spend almost 400 million a year on something and not use it; (USCYBERCOM)- and because every time a government official's mouth is open they are lying. In the past year we have seen lies at every level:

Barrack Obama: I was just about to have a discussion about NSA spying before Snowden leaked all those documents
James Clapper: I made an "error" when I lied to congress about the NSA spying program- at first it was just metadata, now it's all digital communications, now it's we only look at it when a secret court says it's ok, scouts honor.

Janet Napolitano: There was no Saudi at the Boston bombing, we aren't buying billions of rounds of ammunition or turning Homeland Security into a domestic army.

It's all lies all the time and you can't trust these people. Since USCYBERCOM has come about we have only seen high profile hacks and high powered disturbances increase. It's not to say that anonymous or hacktivists won't try to cause their share of the mayhem; but blaming the New York Times on the "Syrian Electronic Army," come on.

I think there's something big in the works, and it's finally gonna help them clamp down on the web after it's all over.

Personally I think you are probably just a little bit too paranoid my friend. Not every little thing that comes from a government officials mouth is a lie. I wish people would wake up to that.

I wish everyone would stop being so naive. You really think everything that comes out of their mouth is the truth? Google these five things things and then tell me this is garbage.

1. Richard Nixon and the Petro Dollar
2. George H.W. Bush and Tim Osman (AKA Osama Bin Laden)
2. Iraq planning to abandon the Petro dollar
3. Iran planning to abandon the Petro dollar
4. China and Russia purchase record amounts of gold

Very soon you will understand that every single thing controllable in our society by the wealthy elite, is controlled so that they can keep the wars going and the money flowing. The moment the war on terror ends, and the middle east slips through USA's fingers, the US Dollar will lose all value, and America will become a third world country. It's funny how people with absolutely no idea what's going on in the world call others paranoid. Iran is the big one. USA isn't backing down, and Russia and China (Who I may add are actively buying and mining as much gold as possible in preparation for a return to the gold standard) have made stern warnings about an attack on Iran.

This is the reason USA are arming Syrian rebels, many of whom are known Jihadists part of the so called Al Quaeda, which is really just a fancy label for the CIA's former affiliates from the 80's and 90's that were scape goated after 9/11 to get flags waving to invade Afghanistan. Please google all those things, look at multiple websites, not just one. Don't take your news stories from one source. The news isn't fact, it's the point of view they want you to believe. To learn the truth, you must reference several sources and looking for common points.

This is critical thinking, a value that needs to be resurgent in America. We have spent far to long trusting MSNBC, FOX and CNN, when the people who own these "news" sources have political agendas of their own. It is crucial to search for the truth yourself. Nothing is real unless you witness it yourself. If we allow ourselves to trust in the words of men put in power by lobbyists from oil companies, private security and post war construction, this war of terror will never end, and the Bill of Rights will be eroded freedom by freedom. You've already lost the right to a fair and speedy trial (Bradley Manning), as well as your right to free speech (Edward Snowden), and even your right to privacy (NDAA, Patriot act, PRISM), how much more will you allow?

So don't tell anyone willing to ask questions they are paranoid and need to wake up, clearly the only one who needs to wake up is you.

You know there is critical thinking and then just plane insanity. I had hoped that this site would attract the kind of people that aren't so mentally crazy that they think everything in the world is connected in some grand master plan for total global domination. Al Quaeda former CIA affiliates? Yeah right. No one knows the truth but I do know this. You need some help. I would suggest trying to bring God into your life or finding some greater thing to do then worry about made up super villains. Seriously go to church, read the bible, meditate, do yoga or something to put your mind at ease. You are gonna drive yourself into the ground if you keep up this line of thought.

 

[A Shadows Age]

As for the US government committing hacking fraud... why?

Because they aren't gonna spend almost 400 million a year on something and not use it; (USCYBERCOM)- and because every time a government official's mouth is open they are lying. In the past year we have seen lies at every level:

Barrack Obama: I was just about to have a discussion about NSA spying before Snowden leaked all those documents
James Clapper: I made an "error" when I lied to congress about the NSA spying program- at first it was just metadata, now it's all digital communications, now it's we only look at it when a secret court says it's ok, scouts honor.

Janet Napolitano: There was no Saudi at the Boston bombing, we aren't buying billions of rounds of ammunition or turning Homeland Security into a domestic army.

It's all lies all the time and you can't trust these people. Since USCYBERCOM has come about we have only seen high profile hacks and high powered disturbances increase. It's not to say that anonymous or hacktivists won't try to cause their share of the mayhem; but blaming the New York Times on the "Syrian Electronic Army," come on.

I think there's something big in the works, and it's finally gonna help them clamp down on the web after it's all over.

Personally I think you are probably just a little bit too paranoid my friend. Not every little thing that comes from a government officials mouth is a lie. I wish people would wake up to that.

You should probably look up the definition of paranoia, because he's not being paranoid just pessimistic and a little too simplistic, I mean I would like to think someone in charge actually gives a fuck about something other than their own agenda... But I'm a little old for fairy tales like that.

Does early 20s qualify as "too old" for these supposed fairy tales? Maybe he is being pessimistic but thinking that there is some grand master cyber attack being planned. That kind of registered on my radar as being paranoid.

First sentence.
Early 20's early 40's, 60's, 80's... 12. Just wherever you think the "magic" number is. No I just meant old as in not naive and gullible enough to keep buying the same stories over and over again, and thinking. THIS time, things will be different. Your right. Different time, place, name, excuse, same old selfish bullshit.

Second/Third sentence
Aah, that. Well in that case I can agree that "ONE BIG ATTACK" could be perceived as paranoia, yes. I thought you were referring to all the little gradual ones. Or that the NSA couldn't be anything but above board as far as anyone at the NSA is aware of... but if you were just referring to some idea he came up with off the top of his head then never mind. I thought your reply was to the things in the quote like clapper and obama.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Al Quaeda former CIA affiliates? Yeah right.

Um...what's so outlandish about that one?

A lot of people got US support because they were making things difficult for the Soviets, and they don't have a Soviet Union to keep them busy anymore.

 

[MorphingDragon]

There is Cyber Warfare happening but it's not Skiddies DDOSing random websites.

Look up Stuxnet for a taste of what's really happening, all without mainstream media batting an eye.

 

[SerBrittanicus]

Well it isn't exactly a secret that the Chinese government are attacking several large western businesses and government organisations in an attempt to steal tech and information. However whilst I am sure they along with the Russians are capable and willing to try and take down the western world I do not see why they would need to hasten the collapse. I would be much more worried about what our own governments have done to our countries and the impending collapse of the United States, which is going to take the rest of us with them.

 

[The_Echo]

I don't think the main event will happen in a week. What you see happening now, all of the these high profile outages and attacks- they're test runs for something bigger.

OK, just... hold up a second. Do you know that they're all attacks? Because I don't care how big your website is. Sometimes things will fuck up and the site will go down. Outages happen. They aren't always attacks.

The obvious guess for a date is November 5th, but again who knows. Anonymous has already announced their intention to target governments on that date this year, and they'll make a very convenient patsy. Anonymous, US domestic cyber terrorists. Then after that it's goodbye free and open internet, hello Cyber Patriot Act of 2013.

You're sounding really tin-foil-hat right here. I know the public consciousness thinks Anonymous is some big bad Final Boss of the Internet?, but the truth of the matter is that Anonymous' biggest project was Scientology protests. Since then, they really... haven't done a whole lot. And I don't see them doing much else anytime soon.

And any attempts by the government to pin such attacks on Anonymous would be swiftly disregarded or retaliated against by those of us who visit the regular channels every day and see nothing more than a circle-jerk of self-loathing. Besides, if they really thought Anon was that dangerous, they wouldn't be very eager to kick the hornets' nest.

That's the motive, that's their agenda. You've seen them pushing for more control over the web for some time now. A cyber attack will give them a mandate. Crisis is opportunity.

This conspiracy you've deciphered is straight out of a movie. No government would actually try to do this, especially not over something like Internet policing. It's just not worth the trouble.

sounds way too much like another scheme concocted by the Patriots.

Quite.