Matter /CAN/ be created!

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RJ 17

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Alright, many of you have probably seen this before, but for those of you who haven't: get ready for some mathematical magic as I show you an old trick I learned back in highschool to algerbraeicly (spelling) prove that 0.999repeating actually = 1 by itself.

Start with x = 0.999rep

x = 0.999rep

Multiply both sides of the equation by 10

10x = 9.999rep

Subtract x from both sides.

9x = 9 (10x - x = 9x, 9.999rep - x (which was originally stated as = 0.999rep) = 9)

Divide both sides by 9

x = 1

You can also do this with fractions and logic.

1/3 as a fraction is equal to 0.333rep

2/3 as a fraction is equal to 0.666rep

3/3 as a fraction SHOULD equal 0.999rep....but as a fraction, having three thirds of something means you've got the whole thing, which equates to 1.

:p

(on a side not...the Captcha required to post this contained the word "deleted" spelled backwards and upsidedown...what in god's name am I supposed to do there? (cycled through it) )
 

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Mortai Gravesend said:
That doesn't mean matter can be created though. It just means that .999 repeating is the same as 1.
No, .3333_ + .6666_ = 1.0. _ after decimal represents repeating.
 

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Mortai Gravesend said:
CulixCupric said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
That doesn't mean matter can be created though. It just means that .999 repeating is the same as 1.
No, .3333_ + .6666_ = 1.0. _ after decimal represents repeating.
.333_ + .666_ = .999_ And .999_ = 1

First part is obvious, second part proven in the first post.
but , .333_ + .666_ != .999_ because the repeating 3 and repeating 6 add together, as .666_ rounds to .6667 and .3333 + .6667 = 1.0

1/3 + 2/3 = 3/3 = 1/1 = 1
 

RJ 17

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Mortai Gravesend said:
That doesn't mean matter can be created though. It just means that .999 repeating is the same as 1.
But how can 0.999_ = 1 when 0.999_ is meant to represent a number infinitely close to 1 without actually being 1? Where does the extra 0.(insert infinite line of zeros)1 come from that bumps all the 9s ahead of it to 10s, thus making it 1?
 

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RJ 17 said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
That doesn't mean matter can be created though. It just means that .999 repeating is the same as 1.
But how can 0.999_ = 1 when 0.999_ is meant to represent a number infinitely close to 1 without actually being 1? Where does the extra 0.(insert infinite line of zeros)1 come from that bumps all the 9s ahead of it to 10s, thus making it 1?
right, .999_ != 1.0

but .333_ = 1/3 and .666_ = 2/3

1/3 + 2/3 = 3/3 = 1/1 = 1.0

also, a flaw in conceptual math does not prove that matter can be created.
 

RJ 17

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CulixCupric said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
CulixCupric said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
That doesn't mean matter can be created though. It just means that .999 repeating is the same as 1.
No, .3333_ + .6666_ = 1.0. _ after decimal represents repeating.
.333_ + .666_ = .999_ And .999_ = 1

First part is obvious, second part proven in the first post.
but , .333_ + .666_ != .999_ because the repeating 3 and repeating 6 add together, as .666_ rounds to .6667 and .3333 + .6667 = 1.0

1/3 + 2/3 = 3/3 = 1/1 = 1
But rounding isn't a naturally occuring function, it is something humans created to simplify numbers. 0.666_ is an infinite line of 6's until someone arbitrarily says "round one up to 7"
 

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RJ 17 said:
CulixCupric said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
CulixCupric said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
That doesn't mean matter can be created though. It just means that .999 repeating is the same as 1.
No, .3333_ + .6666_ = 1.0. _ after decimal represents repeating.
.333_ + .666_ = .999_ And .999_ = 1

First part is obvious, second part proven in the first post.
but , .333_ + .666_ != .999_ because the repeating 3 and repeating 6 add together, as .666_ rounds to .6667 and .3333 + .6667 = 1.0

1/3 + 2/3 = 3/3 = 1/1 = 1
But rounding isn't a naturally occuring function, it is something humans created to simplify numbers. 0.666_ is an infinite line of 6's until someone arbitrarily says "round one up to 7"
A flaw in the concept of adding infinite decimals math does not prove the ability to create matter.

also, use wiki a bit more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_decimal

this solves your problem right here.
 

SneeringCanuck

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I don't understand any of this math nonsense, but I know this theory is pure genius. When shall I begin the funding?
 

RJ 17

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SneeringCanuck said:
I don't understand any of this math nonsense, but I know this theory is pure genius. When shall I begin the funding?
Pay this window, if you please. Step 1: Blow their minds with math magic. Step 2:.............. Step 3: Profit.
 

SneeringCanuck

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I just threw forty-five dollars at my monitor and nothing is happening. Why has your math magic not started solving all my problems yet?
 

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If you thought that was cool, here's some Astrophysics 101.

There is a gravitational attration between EVERY object. The equation to calculate that attration is:

Fg=G((M1 * M2)/D^2)

Where
Fg= The force of gravity
G= Universal gravity constant (don't worry about it, it's a really small number)
M1 and M2= Mass of object 1 and 2
D= distance

Now that we have that established...
Black holes have such huge masses that not even light can escape it.
You're probably putting two and two together now...
If you look at the equation, for that statement to be true both objects must have a mass.
Light has mass.

EDIT:

Oh yeah, and according to wikianswer matter can be created when gamma rays collide, or something like that.
 

RJ 17

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Edit to delete repeticious sentence. :p
SneeringCanuck said:
I just threw forty-five dollars at my monitor and nothing is happening. Why has your math magic not started solving all my problems yet?
If you want all your problems to go away, you must first divide by 0.
 

RJ 17

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triggrhappy94 said:
If you thought that was cool, here's some Astrophysics 101.

There is a gravitational attration between EVERY object. The equation to calculate that attration is:

Fg=G((M1 * M2)/D^2)

Where
Fg= The force of gravity
G= Universal gravity constant (don't worry about it, it's a really small number)
M1 and M2= Mass of object 1 and 2
D= distance

Now that we have that established...
Black holes have such huge masses that not even light can escape it.
You're probably putting two and two together now...
If you look at the equation, for that statement to be true both objects must have a mass.
Light has mass.
According to a documentary on black holes that I watched, physicists hate'em because once you get to a certain point near the singularity, that (or some other physics gravity equation) comes out to a big-fat infinity sign staring up at you, suggesting that a singularity has infinite mass and infinite gravity.
 

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I'm pretty sure that rounding errors don't equal "creation of matter".

I mean, you could tell someone who's missing 4/10 toes that he's got all of them, if he rounds up.
 

Greni

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You, with your genius have just disproved a fundamental principle in modern physics... with rounding up numbers. Well done. [/sarcasm]

Go home people. Nothing to see here.