Maybe I am a prude...or maybe I'm going up or maybe I'm right

[Treaos Serrare]

yes you are a prude, i see real life women dressed like this all the time here in the south, to say nothing of the fact that if harley were to be wearing her BTA outfit people would be bashing that too. also this chick be 20 kinds of crazy, as in love wit ha dude that 1000 times crazier who(in certai ncomic continuities) is a lecherous pervert so it goes beyond no imaginary line for harley to dress this way, its not far from what she wore in Arkham Asylum in fact

 

[Daddy Go Bot]

Aside from being plain silly, it can also be quite immersion breaking to me.

 

[DanDeFool]

As long as it makes sense for the character, example is a majority of Marvel girls sometimes, I'm okay with it.

I think the Marvel girls have a different problem. Particularly in X-Men, most of the women ARE fully clothed. It's just that they're wearing skin-tight bodysuits and every single one of them has enormous jugs.

Seriously, are there any comic book chicks that don't have big tits?

OT: Personally, I don't really go for the whole 'chainmail bikini' thing either, unless the material in question is intended to be pornographic (in the latter case, you can go nuts for all I care).

Personally, I tend to find under-sexualization more appealing than over-sexualization most of the time. Girls in white t-shirts and baggy cargo pants, or traditional style dresses with long skirts, that sort of thing.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Our ideas on modesty and body-image are pretty unhealthy and actually pretty silly.

There's strength in being practically nude and not caring.

There's a rather distinct difference between being practically nude for, well, practical reasons, and being clothed in high heels, a thong, and a corset that's kept together with wistful thinking. Just imagine trying to do anything physical except pole dancing in outfits like that.

Personally I have lost hope a long time ago that designers would some time look up the implication of the word "suggestive". Especially the part where it says that coming on too strong reduces the effect.

Frankly if you want plausibility, comics and cartoons are not for you. In truth, I do believe that having things left to your imagination is often sexier, just as the scariest movie-monster is the one you don't see. But I've shared those sentiments with others and had them stare blankly at me, subjectivity...deal with it.

Nudity is no kind of immoral, is all I really want to say.

 

[TheEverix]

I think it has to be within context. For example, DoA Beach Volleyball would have been rather strange if played by women in heavy armour. Likewise, I just don't understand why anybody, man or woman, would embark on an quest to save the world wearing anything other than practical armour for their given role. No role (other than distraction) calls for butt-string and nipple tassels.

I actually think that a full armour suit can be more attractive anyway...as well as providing a layer between you and bullets.

For example:

I'll take this

Spoiler: Armour

over this

Spoiler: Not Armour

any day. But maybe that's just me...

 

[Mallefunction]

I agree. I mean, it's one thing to be sexy....it's another thing to literally leave NOTHING to the imagination. Harley was sexy in her original outfit from The Animated Series...but they've turned her into such a sex symbol that I almost can't stand her anymore.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

While I admit that it's something of a too-common issue, I do NOT have any problems with looking at it.
Unless it's in an aesthetic that doesn't work. Like in Fallout 3, all those mods adding the scantily dressed anime girls NO. THIS IS FALLOUT. FUCK OFF BACK TO NARUTO.

 

[Kraj]

Nearly naked lades have always sold to hot blooded young men. It's 'human nature' as they say. You sir may be the rare exception to the rule..and for that Bravo!

Personally I'd like to see a few more scantly clad men...just to make things even. >_>

for you:

OT: I dont really have much of an opinion on it all.


yes, sometimes wearing a micro bikini into battle is a bad idea.


yes, having tons of armor is a bad idea sometimes.


As long as it makes sense for the character, example is a majority of Marvel girls sometimes, I'm okay with it.

LOL how vintage of you! Thank you. *giggle*

I do agree with that point as well. However I do find that perhaps...just perhaps...bobbies have reached a saturation point? Can you straight guys answer that for me, I don't mean it in a mean way really, is there a boobie saturation point? A point where it just becomes 'meh'. I'm genuinely curious.

Actually Harley looks more clothed than most.

as a straight guy, I think that there really is a saturation point.

I mean, yea, when we are younger we drool and fantasize about boobs, but as we get older something changes.

it could be us just getting burned out, being around girls so much, or we move on. It could be different for other guys though, so dont quote me on that.

yet it could just be broken down into what we find to be attractive to us, some guys like big or small boobs, other guys like big butts, some like them small, some like them taller.



Then again, there are some of us that see a size Triple G and think "oh god..... it is going to eat me! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!"

Hmm. I tend to think over the years my... taste? has become more defined, I've discovered exactly what I like and don't need to experiment as often. So what's attractive and what I'm attracted to have split more and more.
Well shaped perky boobs are never unwelcome though.

 

[2xDouble]

Really. And I though you didn't like The Jimquisition [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/3150-Solving-the-Sexism-Situation].

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Our ideas on modesty and body-image are pretty unhealthy and actually pretty silly.

There's strength in being practically nude and not caring.

I don't think that's the point though. Hell, if you're comfortable enough with yourself to walk around in nothing but socks, good for you, but are you doing it to look like a whore, or are you doing it because you feel comfortable in yourself and like nakedness.

It never bothers me in games, but if I meet a person dressing like that, I get a bad idea about the person.

But that's just cultural baggage you're carrying around, and only relevent to our inherited Catholic ideas about shame and modesty.

In other cultures women are topless everyday and nobody accuses them of being a "whore", the men are far less obsessed with breasts as a result too. This strikes me as being superior to our unhealthy and judgemental bullshit. I know people who think breastfeeding publicly is uncouth too...ridiculous.

That is ridiculous. A natural human function shouldn't be seen as wrong, especially one as tender as breastfeed. Obviously, I don't condone crapping in public but...

Hey, if everyone walked around naked, I'd be down with that. I'd love for a society to work like that, but it doesn't, unfortunately. I think it's still good to have a bit of class though, I've seen plenty of people who looked really sexy in business attire, and it wasn't the slutty kind either, she's a really sweet girl who was just dressed extraordinarily well. My problem is with people trying to sell themselves on an entirely sexual basis, rather than on personal merits too, but hey, that's just me.

Is that kind of nonsense not only made possible by our silly ideas about modesty? I'm willing to bet that if I had grown up constantly seeing boobs, I wouldn't be so interested in them and they'd have no power over me.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

Our ideas on modesty and body-image are pretty unhealthy and actually pretty silly.

There's strength in being practically nude and not caring.

I don't think that's the point though. Hell, if you're comfortable enough with yourself to walk around in nothing but socks, good for you, but are you doing it to look like a whore, or are you doing it because you feel comfortable in yourself and like nakedness.

It never bothers me in games, but if I meet a person dressing like that, I get a bad idea about the person.

But that's just cultural baggage you're carrying around, and only relevent to our inherited Catholic ideas about shame and modesty.

In other cultures women are topless everyday and nobody accuses them of being a "whore", the men are far less obsessed with breasts as a result too. This strikes me as being superior to our unhealthy and judgemental bullshit. I know people who think breastfeeding publicly is uncouth too...ridiculous.

That is ridiculous. A natural human function shouldn't be seen as wrong, especially one as tender as breastfeed. Obviously, I don't condone crapping in public but...

Hey, if everyone walked around naked, I'd be down with that. I'd love for a society to work like that, but it doesn't, unfortunately. I think it's still good to have a bit of class though, I've seen plenty of people who looked really sexy in business attire, and it wasn't the slutty kind either, she's a really sweet girl who was just dressed extraordinarily well. My problem is with people trying to sell themselves on an entirely sexual basis, rather than on personal merits too, but hey, that's just me.

Is that kind of nonsense not only made possible by our silly ideas about modesty? I'm willing to bet that if I had grown up constantly seeing boobs, I wouldn't be so interested in them and they'd have no power over me.

To a certain degree, yes, but as our instincts dictate, tits = awesome. At some point in our lives we'd be swayed by the magical jiggling and shape. It's the way we're wired. Even if we all walked around naked, people would find ways to flaunt their sexuality. I dread to think of how women would do it if they were naked in the first place though...

*shudders*

 

[William MacKay]

everyone is naked under their clothes. remember that.

 

[Daddy Go Bot]

everyone is naked under their clothes. remember that.

You sicken me.

 

[funguy2121]

But sometimes when I see scantily clad ladies especially in video games or comic or whatever, I just can't help think "Someone needs to tell that hussy to put on some clothes." Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the female form and think there are classy and hot ways to show it off but then there are just trashy ways. Here is an example (and just one example, there are plenty of others too but I don't want to find them right now)

For crapsake Harley, I'll give you $50 so you can go to Old Navy and buy shirt and pants.

She's not bad. She's just drawn that way.

...was I ninja'd?

This post created exactly because it was so bad.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Yea, you're a prude.

Comics/films/games are meant for our enjoyment. And everyone enjoys skimpy clothing.

No on ever complains when dudes are walking around with no tops on or whatever. Sex only becomes an issue when women are involved.

And skimpy female clothing is designed pretty much solely for male enjoyment. Also, there may be some exceptions, but in general shirtless men appeal to women less than shirtless women appeal to men. Although, honestly, scantily clad women in fiction started to get annoying to me once I finished puberty.

You know how the "romance" in Twilight comes off as exclusively being designed for a female audience? Most women I've discussed this subject with feel a similar way about half-naked female characters.

 

[conflictofinterests]

I understand where you're coming from. Even buck naked can seem less "slutty" than some of the outfits female videogame characters wear (but point that out to SOME people...). It's all about the aesthetic of the scene. When someone has clothes on that you consider regular, they are much more "regular" in your eyes. When someone has no clothes on, they look like a naked person, and depending on how much you get out of naked people, this could be pretty arousing or aesthetically pleasing (or really disgusting depending on the person viewing and the person being viewed).

When a woman is scantily clad, the one thing that is meant to communicate, and it communicates this very well I might add, is that this person is a sexual being. They are probably sexually predatory, and if not are quite sexually vulnerable. Any other qualities that character may or may not have are suddenly secondary to the presence of inadequate clothing.

Nakedness can be artistic, or at the very least neutral. I have yet to see artistic or neutral use of inadequate clothing.

 

[Raizekage]

Personally I think the less clothes the better. That's just me though.

 

[conflictofinterests]

SNIP
To a certain degree, yes, but as our instincts dictate, tits = awesome. At some point in our lives we'd be swayed by the magical jiggling and shape. It's the way we're wired. Even if we all walked around naked, people would find ways to flaunt their sexuality.
SNIP

Aesthetic value of a woman's breasts is a primarily cultural thing, I would think, as there are cultures in which women can go around without coverings for them without the need to worry about the predilections of their male peers. In any case, it's not of overwhelming difficulty to disguise the fact that one can't help being aroused by something. You tend not to know your date is a foot fetishist until he/she tells you or begins moaning as they give you a foot massage.