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OuroborosChoked

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AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835310 said:
I'd be willing to bet the majority of people in here have never been in a "hostile situation" in the Middle East.

*waits for them to pretend as if it doesn't matter in the BIG picture*
McCain hasn't.
Obama hasn't.
Palin hasn't.
Biden hasn't.

And we all know about McCain's Baghdad market stroll... with armored escort and Apache helicopters overhead. Hell, that's how I go shopping all the time!

I won't support McCain because:
1. Palin is a scary, irresponsible choice which only reflects on McCain's lack of judgement. Is he really putting country first picking someone like Palin?
2. McCain's supporters are racists, bigots, and igorant fucks who continue to chant debunked "facts". All that shit like "Obama is only one letter away from Osama" and "Obama's a secret muslim". What the fuck is a "secret muslim" anyway? And what does that even matter? Muslim does not equal TERRORIST. A vote for McCain is a vote for these kinds of people having a voice in the highest office this country has.
3. McCain's campaign is a campaign based on fear. He wants us to be afraid. Afraid of "that guy". Afraid of foreignness. Afraid of change. Afraid of truth. He plays to peoples hatred and fears. I don't want that in a president.
4. The lies. McCain is beating the old Republican drum that DEMOCRATZ ALWAYZ RAZE TAXES!!. Under Obama's tax plan (yes, this has been explained over and over again), most Americans will SAVE MONEY. Under McCain's plan, the lower-income families will be even more heavily taxed than they are under Bush. Sorry, I can't afford to be taxed MORE, McCain.

That's just 4 reasons. For the sake of brevity, I'll stop here.
 

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McCain is too ugly to be president.
Also, I hear that he has dandruff.


In addition, his economic stratagies make no bloody sense to me; neither does Obama's, but at least he's trying.
 

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AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835383 said:
Once again:

The.economy.would.have.plummeted.if.we.would.have.never.gone.to.Iraq.anyway.
Sure, but it certainly didn't help our deficit.
 

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AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835367 said:
You know that publicity shot where Obama is playing basketball with the troops? He walked in there, didn't say a damn word to them, picked up the ball, shot it for his publicity stunt, then walked away without saying a fucking word to any of the troops he wished to command.

THIS is the man we wish to lead the armed forces of this country? Some blatant cocksucker who can't even shake a man's hand because he isn't "good enough" for him?
Would now be a bad time to mention that Palin, despite her claim, has never been to Iraq? She has looked over the border into Iraq, but that doesn't count for anything. And also, using quote marks around the words 'good enough' fails at making us think that Obama hates the troops but succeeds in makings us realise you are attempting to put words into his mouth.
 

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AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835367 said:
OuroborosChoked post=18.74460.835352 said:
AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835310 said:
I'd be willing to bet the majority of people in here have never been in a "hostile situation" in the Middle East.

*waits for them to pretend as if it doesn't matter in the BIG picture*
McCain hasn't.
Obama hasn't.
Palin hasn't.
Biden hasn't.

And we all know about McCain's Baghdad market stroll... with armored escort and Apache helicopters overhead. Hell, that's how I go shopping all the time!

I won't support McCain because:
1. Palin is a scary, irresponsible choice which only reflects on McCain's lack of judgement. Is he really putting country first picking someone like Palin?
2. McCain's supporters are racists, bigots, and igorant fucks who continue to chant debunked "facts". All that shit like "Obama is only one letter away from Osama" and "Obama's a secret muslim". What the fuck is a "secret muslim" anyway? And what does that even matter? Muslim does not equal TERRORIST. A vote for McCain is a vote for these kinds of people having a voice in the highest office this country has.
3. McCain's campaign is a campaign based on fear. He wants us to be afraid. Afraid of "that guy". Afraid of foreignness. Afraid of change. Afraid of truth. He plays to peoples hatred and fears. I don't want that in a president.
4. The lies. McCain is beating the old Republican drum that DEMOCRATZ ALWAYZ RAZE TAXES!!. Under Obama's tax plan (yes, this has been explained over and over again), most Americans will SAVE MONEY. Under McCain's plan, the lower-income families will be even more heavily taxed than they are under Bush. Sorry, I can't afford to be taxed MORE, McCain.

That's just 4 reasons. For the sake of brevity, I'll stop here.
You know that publicity shot where Obama is playing basketball with the troops? He walked in there, didn't say a damn word to them, picked up the ball, shot it for his publicity stunt, then walked away without saying a fucking word to any of the troops he wished to command.

THIS is the man we wish to lead the armed forces of this country? Some blatant cocksucker who can't even shake a man's hand because he isn't "good enough" for him?

There is no such thing as being under-priveleged. I went from a $500,000 household to living under $18,000...you earn what you get in life. Screw this country's cowardice and lack of will to come together.

Oh, and he can stop with his racist tirade that blacks have been under-priveleged and abused in this country...that shit is getting old real quick. He isn't even doing them any good, he's a mockery of a man raising above the odds...he contaminates their chances with further discrepancies and bullshit games.
What the hell are you ranting about? He didn't shake hands with people? So what? Did he actually say, "I'm not shaking your hand because I'm too good for you"? Then don't put words in his mouth. At least he hasn't voted in favor of Bush 95% of the time. I guess facts don't matter, though. Feelings do.

And who said anything about being under-privileged? I know I didn't. I was talking about lower income households and taxes. You're off your rocker, man.

Finally, back up your last statement or admit it was bullshit rhetoric. Personally, I haven't heard word one from Obama's own lips that "blacks are under-privileged"...

EDIT: I see you've deleted your response and replaced it with "I'm taking the high road". High road? You didn't actually say anything rational.
 

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AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835348 said:
TheKnifeJuggler post=18.74460.835335 said:
Lots and lots of post stuff.
Per the last block:

That is seeing everything from one side of the fence, and one side of the fence only.
The heck?

I do not see how that is on any side of a fence. I'll admit I am against McCain, but that does not mean I am Pro-Obama.
I made a statement pointing out the error in your logic, and the only way you seem to reply is by calling it one sided.
You're not defending your side, you're simply seeing what you want to see.
 

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AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835383 said:
Once again:

The.economy.would.have.plummeted.if.we.would.have.never.gone.to.Iraq.anyway.
If. We. Had. Focused. On. Our. Economy. Instead. Of. Wasting. Funding. On. A. War. It. Wouldn't. Have.
 

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AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835401 said:
High road.
As in, I can't defend my decision, so I'll pretend I don't care what anyone else says, but continually remind everyone that I'm taking the "high road" by not debating the issues?

Some high road.

Avoiding the subject you brought up because you can't answer simple questions is not the high road. It's cowadice.
 

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You know your campaign is in trouble when attack adverts actually seem like a good idea compared to your alternatives.
TheKnifeJuggler post=18.74460.835416 said:
AgentCLXXXIII post=18.74460.835383 said:
Once again:

The.economy.would.have.plummeted.if.we.would.have.never.gone.to.Iraq.anyway.
If. We. Had. Focused. On. Our. Economy. Instead. Of. Wasting. Funding. On. A. War. It. Wouldn't. Have.
I felt that you needed to be backed up with a source, so here you go. Here's the figures for how much the Iraq War has cost your economy.
http://zfacts.com/p/447.html
 

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TheKnifeJuggler post=18.74460.835425 said:
Johnn Johnston post=18.74460.835419 said:
You know your campaign is in trouble when attack adverts actually seem like a good idea compared to your alternatives.
Zing.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I'm here all week, tip the waitresses.
 

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King Hippo post=18.74460.835413 said:
We, the Obamalites, forecast a crushing victory, therefore we dont need to act like haters.

What happend hear is that Obama has a lead in MULTIPLE states, while mccain is high suport in some states.

The exact oposite of the bush vs algore fiasco from years ago.
But doesnt the entire outcome of the US election depend on the results from a very small number of states? (Like 5 or less)

Obama could stil easily lose this thing, I dont want him to but I can see it happening.

Your electoral college system really does suck ass
 

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2. McCain's supporters are racists, bigots, and igorant fucks who continue to chant debunked "facts". All that shit like "Obama is only one letter away from Osama" and "Obama's a secret muslim". What the fuck is a "secret muslim" anyway? And what does that even matter? Muslim does not equal TERRORIST. A vote for McCain is a vote for these kinds of people having a voice in the highest office this country has.
You really can't blame McCain for that. He'd get an endorsement from the KKK no matter what he supports.
 

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mike1921 post=18.74460.835440 said:
2. McCain's supporters are racists, bigots, and igorant fucks who continue to chant debunked "facts". All that shit like "Obama is only one letter away from Osama" and "Obama's a secret muslim". What the fuck is a "secret muslim" anyway? And what does that even matter? Muslim does not equal TERRORIST. A vote for McCain is a vote for these kinds of people having a voice in the highest office this country has.
You really can't blame McCain for that. He'd get an endorsement from the KKK no matter what he supports.
Ah, but you can blame him for using adverts and rhetoric in speeches which inspire such behaviour.
 

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mike1921 post=18.74460.835440 said:
2. McCain's supporters are racists, bigots, and igorant fucks who continue to chant debunked "facts". All that shit like "Obama is only one letter away from Osama" and "Obama's a secret muslim". What the fuck is a "secret muslim" anyway? And what does that even matter? Muslim does not equal TERRORIST. A vote for McCain is a vote for these kinds of people having a voice in the highest office this country has.
You really can't blame McCain for that. He'd get an endorsement from the KKK no matter what he supports.
Can't I?

You've seen the videos, yeah?

Now are you going to tell me every time someone shouts, "Kill him!" at one of his rallies, he can't say, "No. We're not going to talk like that. I'm not going to encourage that kind of thing. Please leave." Or SOMETHING along those lines. Something RESPONSIBLE. Something that follows the lines of "calls for assassination are not okay in presidential races".
 

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Im not really anti McCain, Im not even pro Obama.

Both choices are rather scary. Obama doestn have as much experience as I would like for our leader to have, and Im very concernd about how the silent masses of racist people will react if he becomes president. Face it thousand of people belive he's a terrorist and there for as soon as he reaches office they will no longer fallow the laws becuase they are the laws of an "enemy combatant". And he seems to be a bit to socail for my liking. Im all for universal health care (a perfect copy of the british NHS woudl make me perfectly giddy), but he still makes me uneasy.

While McCain would be a great choice to "lose" (I'm a moderate democrat) to. Hes a moderate republican, so his views are more realistic than the rest of his party. And socialy we would probely be much more stable, there wouldnt be such a terribel active regection (ok so a few hundred people may accues the goveremtn of tampering with the votes in order to keep a republican in office). How ever McCains age does leave some problems. He seems healthy enough right now but, but time has this habit of being a ***** and there is a very realistic possblity that McCain may die in office (should he win the election). So if McCain dies that would leave us with Palin *shudder*, and should she make it to office (I would like her to get shoot by Dick Cheny, this would atleast mean that bushes office did some thing good) I will proptly leave teh england and restart my life under the name Zeb Atlas.