They already said that there would be an announcement in April, so we just have to wait until then.Tom Milner said:bioware can't do nothing forever, something's afoot. i don't know what, when or how. but all my friends agree, something is brewing deep in the bowels of bioware...
I heard a friend saying that the DLC is about rebuilding the relays and helping aria. Sounds really stupid.tendaji said:They already said that there would be an announcement in April, so we just have to wait until then.Tom Milner said:bioware can't do nothing forever, something's afoot. i don't know what, when or how. but all my friends agree, something is brewing deep in the bowels of bioware...
in the short term, its been a financial success, in the long term we have no clue.BloatedGuppy said:That would be an enormously stupid thing to do from a business perspective. Mass Effect is still a franchise. They expected to make more ME games, sell ME merchandise and DLC, maybe a MMO, etc, etc, etc.boag said:that would be the smart thing to do from a Business perspective.
If you accidentally poison your IP with a stupid creative decision, the smart money isn't in sitting on it and letting it die. It they think there's ANYTHING they can do to stem the tide of malcontent, they most certainly will. They just need to tread carefully in terms of HOW they do it.
You wanna put a link to that?Zetsubou-Sama said:Confirmed fake, it's a photoshop done in the Liara thread in the BSN character forums.
Nah...developers build and lose reputations on the strength of the games they deliver. Bioware became popular/beloved on the backs of classic franchises like Baldur's Gate and KOTOR, and the strength of the Dragon Age and Mass Effect IPs. They put out a bit of a stinker with DA2, and for the most part they got a mulligan. It's not something they can afford to keep doing. There is a limit to the patience of even the most ardent fans.boag said:you are putting all chips into having the faith that people will remember this whole shitstorm by the time Bioware pushes out another product.
I have my doubts that most people will remember or even give half a fuck about what happened regarding ME3.
I am surely going to make my best effort to remember myself and If I can remind others, hopefully I wont come off as raving madman as otherzzzz have been![]()
geh, well only time will tell how this all plays out.BloatedGuppy said:Nah...developers build and lose reputations on the strength of the games they deliver. Bioware became popular/beloved on the backs of classic franchises like Baldur's Gate and KOTOR, and the strength of the Dragon Age and Mass Effect IPs. They put out a bit of a stinker with DA2, and for the most part they got a mulligan. It's not something they can afford to keep doing. There is a limit to the patience of even the most ardent fans.boag said:you are putting all chips into having the faith that people will remember this whole shitstorm by the time Bioware pushes out another product.
I have my doubts that most people will remember or even give half a fuck about what happened regarding ME3.
I am surely going to make my best effort to remember myself and If I can remind others, hopefully I wont come off as raving madman as otherzzzz have been![]()
Well considering where the background of the post credits sequence came from, it could become real retroactively in that case!nikki191 said:fake..its on someones deviant art account. it would be nice if it was true though
Yeah but they had to know how pissed off the fans would be.Hammeroj said:That's another thing that's really easy to explain. It's basically a choice of, as you say, they went from 0 to 11 on the retard scale, or there was something motivating them to go this way.ChrisRedfield92 said:Now that I got over the general contempt for the ending I just find it hard to believe that Bioware went from 0 to 11 on the retard scale in just 5 minutes.Hammeroj said:Don't get your hopes up. There's a reason most people stay silent, and it's way simpler. They don't want to risk their jobs. It's pretty much the exact same thing in the movie industry - there are so few cases of people calling movies they've worked on crap (or otherwise tarnishing it or people related), that you could probably count the amount of them on your fingers.ChrisRedfield92 said:It is, but it's much harder for everyone in the team to not call them out on their bullshit before they go through beta testing and shipping.RJ 17 said:Well it's pretty easy to screw up the last 5 minutes of your game when your game's director decides to go on a cocaine-fueled bender and absolutely butcher the ending of the game by chopping out 80% of the pertinent information that your writers wanted to include all because a legless stripper refused to give him a lapdance because he wasn't wearing any pants at the time.ChrisRedfield92 said:mmm...
After replaying Mass Effect 3 the only thing I can think of is that the company and writers that made the rest of the game, and paid so much attention to detail, is at least smart enough not to make mistakes that big in the last 5 minutes.
Something just didn't feel right in the ending. My guess is that Bioware has something up their sleeves.
Fingers crossed.
The ending is too full of holes for nobody on Bioware to not say anything. Something's up, I can feel it.
Basically, if you talk shit about someone, they're not going to want to work with you. And along with the sad reality that this is the status quo in most development studios, you either stay shut, or greatly diminish your chances of having a successful career in gaming.
Edit: Oh, and that thing is so easy to fake that you might as well consider it that way on its face.
Now, the main motivator in this situation is budget. What Bioware did herewas wrap the trilogy up nice and tight in around 10 minutes with no relevant player input whatsoever and everything playing out the same. It's cheap. It's cheap to the point of being sleazy. But this isn't even the first time they've done this. They released an entire game this way last year.
Here are my two most likely possibilities. Either they tarried and tarried and procrastinated a-la Tali's face reveal only to slap some completely lazy-ass excuse for an ending right before they had to start printing discs, or this was a cold, calculated decision right from the get-go. Cinematics cost a hell of a lot, and if they were going to make the ending branch out a lot (or at least moderately), it would have cost them millions. And then with the convenient facts that none of the big game reviewers will ever actually engage in critique, that every gaming developer seems to have these corporate shills ready to defend them to the death on every forum, and the blanket statements like "This is art! How dare you!", or "Artistic integrity!!11", they have a reasonable expectation to get away with being this amazingly cheap.
.... I didn't hear that in the press release.RJ 17 said:Well it's pretty easy to screw up the last 5 minutes of your game when your game's director decides to go on a cocaine-fueled bender and absolutely butcher the ending of the game by chopping out 80% of the pertinent information that your writers wanted to include all because a legless stripper refused to give him a lapdance because he wasn't wearing any pants at the time.ChrisRedfield92 said:mmm...
After replaying Mass Effect 3 the only thing I can think of is that the company and writers that made the rest of the game, and paid so much attention to detail, is at least smart enough not to make mistakes that big in the last 5 minutes.
Something just didn't feel right in the ending. My guess is that Bioware has something up their sleeves.
Fingers crossed.
the thing is the only thing i hold against bioware is this last 5 minutes i (shield) like da2 and i havn't tried old republic so i still hold them as one of the best companiesRevelo said:Seconded. I'm waiting on baited breath and hoping Bioware show that EA haven't destroyed all goodness within them. That they have realized they screwed up when it mattered. A new ending DLC is the only thing I would buy from them now. Looking back at DA2, Old Republic and ME3, I wonder if EA will send them the way of companies like Westwood before long.Matt King said:if bioware uses those exact lines in the dlc, i will forgive everythingChromaticWolfen said:Liara: By the Goddess Shepard! Are you Alright?Rack said:Shepherd: I had a nightmare, it was incredibly unsatisfying, as though a hack writer abruptly wrote an end to my saga.
Shepard: What happened?
Tali: You where hit by Harbingers weapon. Keelah, your lucky to be alive.
Shepard: I had the strangest nightmare. Everyone was killed on the way to the beam, then a guy called Marauder Shields tried to kill me, then I met Anderson and TIM in the Citadel, then the crucible didn't work, then Casper the Friendly Ghost told me he built Reapers so that he could kill organics with synthetics before organics could build synthetics that would kill them, then the Relays and the Citadel blew up then I woke up here.
Tali: Shepard....None of that makes any sense.
Shepard: I know.
Sir, this is best guddamn webcomic that I've read in my guddamn life, thank you for sharing.BloatedGuppy said:Nonsense. We already have the story boards for the DLC, and that's not how it goes.
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That cat has to be the best gif I've ever seen on the interwebz, I very nearly ROFL'ed, well donexXxJessicaxXx said:lol drama Liara.
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I choose to believe this person. For no other reason than it sounds the most likely thing.
Zetsubou-Sama said:Confirmed fake, it's a photoshop done in the Liara thread in the BSN character forums.
Yeah, they left out a few of the "minor" details. They've already got enough egg on their face without coming out and admitting that Hudson is a cocaine addict with an amputee fetish.Zen Toombs said:.... I didn't hear that in the press release.RJ 17 said:Well it's pretty easy to screw up the last 5 minutes of your game when your game's director decides to go on a cocaine-fueled bender and absolutely butcher the ending of the game by chopping out 80% of the pertinent information that your writers wanted to include all because a legless stripper refused to give him a lapdance because he wasn't wearing any pants at the time.ChrisRedfield92 said:mmm...
After replaying Mass Effect 3 the only thing I can think of is that the company and writers that made the rest of the game, and paid so much attention to detail, is at least smart enough not to make mistakes that big in the last 5 minutes.
Something just didn't feel right in the ending. My guess is that Bioware has something up their sleeves.
Fingers crossed.
Never played DA2, I didn't like origins.Hammeroj said:I mentioned Dragon Age 2 for a reason. That game was so lazy on soooo many levels, and yet, for the most part, everybody kept licking BioWare's balls over it. Some even called it "the best RPG of the year" or "what every RPG should aspire to be". Yeah, I don't think them thinking they'd get away with this is any stretch at all.ChrisRedfield92 said:Yeah but they had to know how pissed off the fans would be.