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Starp

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Yeah, I see it's really for my own good, and I'm glad to have the backup, but it'd be nice if there was the same rule for women, so people like me couldn't whine about sexism in the workplace.

Dastardly said:
Just follow the rule. Fight it some other day.
Oh, I make no intention of fighting it, I value my job.
 

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Starp said:
Yeah, I see it's really for my own good, and I'm glad to have the backup, but it'd be nice if there was the same rule for women, so people like me couldn't whine about sexism in the workplace.

Dastardly said:
Just follow the rule. Fight it some other day.
Oh, I make no intention of fighting it, I value my job.
I think if they had the same rule in place, a woman could try to make the claim, "They don't think we are capable of ejecting men on our own because we're weak!"
 

hensethe1

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Starp said:
Aright, I work for a security company (not going to say which one, for fear of getting fired), and I was going over some rules when one struck a chord with me-

I have the power to eject people from the premise, as long as a colleague/superior agrees that they need ejecting. Now, I'm not allowed to eject someone under 16 years old unless they have an adult with them (fine), but, if that person is female, I need to be accompanied by a female colleague or I can't eject them.

Now why is this? Two females can eject a male, but two males can't eject a female? Maybe it's just my warped mind, but is it down to a risk of paedophilia? I appreciate the risk of sexual assault is greater with 2 men and a girl than it is for 2 women and a boy, but is it really so much so that it's necessary to have a woman present when removing a girl?

Or am I missing something?

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*EDIT* Fixed the subject. In hindsight, it was a bit much.
I know exactly what you mean

In the weekends I work as a bouncer in clubs and bars, and though its most often men I have to throw out, occasionally I have to escort out girls who have either fallen asleep or are simply too drunk, and I too often think about how I can escort them out correctly, and if there may be a consequence from me strafing a tit while doing my fucking job.
 

kurupt87

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It's more likely to protect the company from false charges, and litigation, from ejected women than to protect women from the employees.
 

Craorach

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Theoretically the rules should make no mention of gender. Equality is just that, treating everyone without consideration of their race, religion, age, gender, etc.

However. The sad reality is that this is to protect you from possibly life ending legal action.
 

Brutal Peanut

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I misread the title as, "Men injecting girls." Me: "Uh,...with what and why?" O_O;;

Though it's probably just to protect the company against false claims of sexism or abuse. Even if a woman or girl deserved being removed from the premises, they can easily say it was because of their gender and not how they were acting. The presence of another female who is on your side and able to provide an unbiased and truthful view of anything that happened is protecting men from petty accusations from some women who continuously want to play the victim. It's sad to say, but some women can quickly turn a simple escort out of a building into a near rape and molestation case.

It seems to be an unfair life-altering situation for men who are just trying to do their job.
 

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Craorach said:
However. The sad reality is that this is to protect you from possibly life ending legal action.
It's not about protecting him at all. It's all about the company protecting itself. Just because it protects you as a side effect, doesn't mean it's for your at all.
 

spartan231490

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It's both sexist and not. Fist, of course it's sexist. but on the other hand, it doesn't really make your job any harder, and it reduces the risk that kids will get hurt. They might also be considering the risk of a big guy physically throwing some girl out the door, or some girl making a scene because she doesn't believe your a security guy and you're just trying to get her outside. It's justified, because the fact is that men and women are different. Always have been, always will be. These differences need to be understood, and accounted for, not ignored.
 

Artina89

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I am going to go along with what a lot of other people have been saying, which is, think it is more likely to be there to cover you legally. It's just so that a girl can't cry "wolf" and accuse someone of making advances and/or assaulting her.
 

Gigano

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It's a sensible company policy reflecting a paranoid society increasingly throwing suspicion on men for being men.
 

Enkidu88

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samwd1 said:
what I wanna understand is how the hell do you eject them and from wherre?

do you fire them out of a cannon or something
This. Also, when you say "Security Company" are we talking Mall cops, the guys that ride around in little faux-police cars, or full on mercenary?

On topic, given how much anyone given any type of power becomes a complete asshole, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to put restrictions on what you can do with girls. It is sexist, but then we don't live in a perfect world, and let's face it, most women won't know the martial arts or have a gun handy if the two rent-a-cops decide they want abuse their power.
 

FamoFunk

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I agree with most of the others; it's to keep the company legally safe.
Some dumb Girl would scream harrasment which will involve job losses and money losses for the company.

I think it's so backwards, but what can you do, eh?
 

bitCrusher

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I don't understand, shouldn't the companies perform background checks of their employees anyway? If someone were to take advantage of their position and sexually harass someone, the guy wouldn't have been hired in the first place.

I believe male teachers are looked into thoroughly before they are hired to teach in all-girls schools. Needless to say, male teachers are surrounded by girls and don't need to be accompanied by women to teach or reprimand female students.
 

Craorach

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vxicepickxv said:
It's not about protecting him at all. It's all about the company protecting itself. Just because it protects you as a side effect, doesn't mean it's for your at all.
It protects him which protects them which protects him which protects them which protects him which protects them which protects him which protects them which protects him which protects them...

I guess we could go around in circles like that all day...

Yes, the company's primary concern is probably to protect itself.. and the people who own/run it. Any company worth its salt also wants to protect its employees...
 

Cid Silverwing

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Mechanix said:
Society is under the belief that men will take every opportunity possible to rape women. It's a retarded logic, but that's just the way it is. Maybe in the future people will smarten up.
Humanity has the uncanny ability to advance technology while simultaneously losing more collective IQ every year.

Also it's a norm that men will abuse women. I don't see this clause as being perfectly reasonable, however.
 

kurupt87

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Cid SilverWing said:
Mechanix said:
Society is under the belief that men will take every opportunity possible to rape women. It's a retarded logic, but that's just the way it is. Maybe in the future people will smarten up.
Humanity has the uncanny ability to advance technology while simultaneously losing more collective IQ every year.

Also it's a norm that men will abuse women. I don't see this clause as being perfectly reasonable, however.
Seriously? It's a norm that men will abuse women.

If you think you'd be a rapist given the chance then fine but, don't taint the rest of us with your brush you sexist bigot.
 

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kurupt87 said:
Cid SilverWing said:
Mechanix said:
Society is under the belief that men will take every opportunity possible to rape women. It's a retarded logic, but that's just the way it is. Maybe in the future people will smarten up.
Humanity has the uncanny ability to advance technology while simultaneously losing more collective IQ every year.

Also it's a norm that men will abuse women. I don't see this clause as being perfectly reasonable, however.
Seriously? It's a norm that men will abuse women.

If you think you'd be a rapist given the chance then fine but, don't taint the rest of us with your brush you sexist bigot.
This, seriously.

If I were you, I'd take it up with the company. If they refused to change, I would leave. I don't associate myself with such discrimination (I had a teacher my senior year who would let the female students leave first every day, eventually I said "fuck it" and just started walking out when they did. Had he tried anything, you'd better believe I would have handed the school their asses.

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