Do you know why your sister felt that way? Probably the same reason I felt the way I did about the ritalin. Because it goddamn works.The Virgo said:Your doctors don't get kick-backs from the drug companies for prescribing different drugs to patients? Wow, the British medical system is a lot different than ours!JoJoDeathunter said:Maybe you are, maybe you aren't, there's no way for me to be able to judge that. What I would recommend is trying to find a doctor who won't sell you any drugs, I don't take any drugs for either of mine, then again I do live in the UK so there's no incentive for medical professionals to sell drugs unless they really do benefit the patient as they don't see any profit from it. You'd be surprised at what can be achieved solely through behavioural changes and a bit of effort. If it really is as bad as you make out then you'll be glad of anything that can help.The Virgo said:I never said it wasn't bad enough that seeing a psychiatrist, but they are merely drug-pushers who get paid by drug companies to diagnose people with a problem that can ONLY be solved with ... DRUGS! It's called a kick-back.JoJoDeathunter said:I can't judge in your situation personally since I don't know you so this is only general stuff, but the whole point of a mental disorder is that it is "generally associated with subjective distress or disability that occurs in an individual, and which is not a part of normal development or culture". In other words, it must have a serious detrimental effect on the sufferer's life, so it strikes me how many people could remain undiagnosed for a disorder which supposedly has evidently negative effects of that person's life.The Virgo said:Just because someone thinks they have a disorder without a professional diagnosis doesn't mean they don't have that disorder. I think I'm schizotypal. Doesn't mean I DO have it, but it doesn't mean that DON'T have it either.JoJoDeathunter said:To be fair if I think if you had suffered and still suffer due to real mental disorders then you too would be annoyed by people claiming that little character traits make them Austisic or OCD or something. Still considering apparently mental illness affects 1/4 people some time in their life there's good reason to believe that most the users here are telling the truth, since far more regular people won't bother going on or posting on the thread only to say "nothing diagnosed".Alkaline said:About the only thing more trendy than people self-diagnosing is people going full white-knight mode and accusing people of self-diagnosing, regardless of whether or not that person's actually got the bloody documents to say so.
It's no surprise either, to see that many of the people doing this have "nothing wrong" with them.
Personally though I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome at the age of 9 or 10, it wasn't like it was a sudden shock or anything, even from the age of 1 or 2 my parents had realised there was something very different about me and it severely impacted my life. Now thankfully as I've grown older I've managed to overcome many of the difficulties associated with that disorder, though perhaps ironically it was just as I was overcoming that that my second more serious disorder manifested itself, which I don't want to go into details for privacy reasons but I can say it's not something minor like OCD or depression and there's no drugs or cure available. Fun. Anyway, my long and rambling point is that real mental disorders are usually very obvious in their sufferers and so I find it hard to believe that someone could really have a mental disorder if it's tolerable enough for them to never need to go to a doctor for it.
I don't enjoy feeling like the air around me is constricting when I'm around a crowd of people. I don't enjoy that I have to date Virgo women only because I feel that everybody under all the other signs is totally incapable of being faithful to their partners. I don't enjoy feeling like everybody is a government agent that's trying to do whatever they can to drive me to suicide or everybody is working for some corporation and are only trying to get close to me to steal my ideas. I don't enjoy feeling like God has people avoiding me because he's angry I discovered that the meaning of life is simply reproduction and that everything is pointless and no matter what anybody does it will eventually be forgotten by the ravage of time.
Besides, there's no cure for schizotypal personality disorder anyway. Not like some legalized-drug pusher trying to pay off his mortgage and student loan is gonna want me actually cured. All these people want is money, not your well-being! There's no money is healthy people ...
One of my older sisters had a concussion and was given some kind of drug to help her stay focused (I forget the name), and she was saying that if she knew that taking the drug would kill her in 24 hours and that, if she stopped, she would live 20 years, she would much rather live 24 hours than stop taking it. Jesus Christ! O_e
I never trust medical "professionals". The only different between them and some guy selling drugs on the street is that the doctor has an office and (hopefully) a diploma on the wall.
Up to you, I've had a lot of good help from medical professionals over the years, without resorting to drugs but hey it's your life. We're all a little crazy in our own way anyway ;-)The Virgo said:Your doctors don't get kick-backs from the drug companies for prescribing different drugs to patients? Wow, the British medical system is a lot different than ours!JoJoDeathunter said:Maybe you are, maybe you aren't, there's no way for me to be able to judge that. What I would recommend is trying to find a doctor who won't sell you any drugs, I don't take any drugs for either of mine, then again I do live in the UK so there's no incentive for medical professionals to sell drugs unless they really do benefit the patient as they don't see any profit from it. You'd be surprised at what can be achieved solely through behavioural changes and a bit of effort. If it really is as bad as you make out then you'll be glad of anything that can help.The Virgo said:I never said it wasn't bad enough that seeing a psychiatrist, but they are merely drug-pushers who get paid by drug companies to diagnose people with a problem that can ONLY be solved with ... DRUGS! It's called a kick-back.JoJoDeathunter said:I can't judge in your situation personally since I don't know you so this is only general stuff, but the whole point of a mental disorder is that it is "generally associated with subjective distress or disability that occurs in an individual, and which is not a part of normal development or culture". In other words, it must have a serious detrimental effect on the sufferer's life, so it strikes me how many people could remain undiagnosed for a disorder which supposedly has evidently negative effects of that person's life.The Virgo said:Just because someone thinks they have a disorder without a professional diagnosis doesn't mean they don't have that disorder. I think I'm schizotypal. Doesn't mean I DO have it, but it doesn't mean that DON'T have it either.JoJoDeathunter said:To be fair if I think if you had suffered and still suffer due to real mental disorders then you too would be annoyed by people claiming that little character traits make them Austisic or OCD or something. Still considering apparently mental illness affects 1/4 people some time in their life there's good reason to believe that most the users here are telling the truth, since far more regular people won't bother going on or posting on the thread only to say "nothing diagnosed".Alkaline said:About the only thing more trendy than people self-diagnosing is people going full white-knight mode and accusing people of self-diagnosing, regardless of whether or not that person's actually got the bloody documents to say so.
It's no surprise either, to see that many of the people doing this have "nothing wrong" with them.
Personally though I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome at the age of 9 or 10, it wasn't like it was a sudden shock or anything, even from the age of 1 or 2 my parents had realised there was something very different about me and it severely impacted my life. Now thankfully as I've grown older I've managed to overcome many of the difficulties associated with that disorder, though perhaps ironically it was just as I was overcoming that that my second more serious disorder manifested itself, which I don't want to go into details for privacy reasons but I can say it's not something minor like OCD or depression and there's no drugs or cure available. Fun. Anyway, my long and rambling point is that real mental disorders are usually very obvious in their sufferers and so I find it hard to believe that someone could really have a mental disorder if it's tolerable enough for them to never need to go to a doctor for it.
I don't enjoy feeling like the air around me is constricting when I'm around a crowd of people. I don't enjoy that I have to date Virgo women only because I feel that everybody under all the other signs is totally incapable of being faithful to their partners. I don't enjoy feeling like everybody is a government agent that's trying to do whatever they can to drive me to suicide or everybody is working for some corporation and are only trying to get close to me to steal my ideas. I don't enjoy feeling like God has people avoiding me because he's angry I discovered that the meaning of life is simply reproduction and that everything is pointless and no matter what anybody does it will eventually be forgotten by the ravage of time.
Besides, there's no cure for schizotypal personality disorder anyway. Not like some legalized-drug pusher trying to pay off his mortgage and student loan is gonna want me actually cured. All these people want is money, not your well-being! There's no money is healthy people ...
One of my older sisters had a concussion and was given some kind of drug to help her stay focused (I forget the name), and she was saying that if she knew that taking the drug would kill her in 24 hours and that, if she stopped, she would live 20 years, she would much rather live 24 hours than stop taking it. Jesus Christ! O_e
I never trust medical "professionals". The only different between them and some guy selling drugs on the street is that the doctor has an office and (hopefully) a diploma on the wall.
I can't agree more with this, a silly personality trait like "I feel shy meeting new people" or "I like to keep stuff on my desk in a particular order" isn't a disorder, it's a normal character trait which everyone has a few of and it demeans the struggles of people with actual disorders.buhee said:As with most disorders, it is only officailly considered a disorder if it impacts your daily life to the point that you feel the need to see a doctor about it (such as regularly being late to work or not leaving you house at all, to make sure that it's safe).
No, she doesn't need it. The only reason she thinks she does is because she's goddamn addicted to it, that's why! Her brain tells her that needs it, so she thinks she can't live or function without it.BlueMage said:Do you know why your sister felt that way? Probably the same reason I felt the way I did about the ritalin. Because it goddamn works.
I agree with this, too. I used to be shy (nothing wrong with that), but now I'm very distant and I would much rather bash my head against a wall repeatedly than go to a social gathering of any sort.JoJoDeathunter said:I can't agree more with this, a silly personality trait like "I feel shy meeting new people" or "I like to keep stuff on my desk in a particular order" isn't a disorder, it's a normal character trait which everyone has a few of and it demeans the struggles of people with actual disorders.
While I'm obviously not qualified to comment on your condition, I'm going to anyway.Julianking93 said:Depressive bipolar.
That one I know for sure.
I can go from ridiculously happy and excited one moment to being borderline suicidal the next.
Just depends on the general state of mind but I've gone that way for pretty much no reason at all before.
That and most likely a lot of social disorders related to anxiety and paranoia.
Other than that, I don't really know nor do I care to know. Just something else that's "wrong" with me.
Holy crap, I thought I was the only one.The Virgo said:I have to eat the same amount of things (like pretzels, crackers, etc.) on both sides of my mouth so I don't feel off-balance.
I think you need a bro hug.Aetera said:I've been professionally diagnosed with severe bipolar depression. Right now I'm on Lamictal and Lithium for it, along with weekly therapy sessions. Feels bad, man. I didn't even have the good fortune to get type I with the fun highs. Type II sucks.
I have it so severe and debilitating that, here in the US where I live, I qualify for disability. I just found that out today. Shit sucks.
I thought I was the only one, too!MordinSolus said:Holy crap, I thought I was the only one.The Virgo said:I have to eat the same amount of things (like pretzels, crackers, etc.) on both sides of my mouth so I don't feel off-balance.