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Macheteswordgun said:
Edit 2. Why does being a metal head imply you automaticly smoke. Idk how many times in school people wanted to know if i smoked weed asked me for cigs etc. That was before i smoked *i enjoy cigars and pipe seeing as how im a refined man* This ever happen to anyone else
while really hard core metal, (that which is unintelligible in lyrics and rhythm to give it no hint that it is a song) is for the dumbasses I do know people who like metal (normal metal, and good heavy metal) and none smoke. However I think the metal genre is too hard for my tastes, (or maybe I do like it, I just don't know what I am listening to is metal) but, due to an advance sense of empathy, I understand why it sounds good to people, the only music I don't understand is, the same music they play on the radio over and over again, and then songs that again, hit the top but sound almost exactly the same (example, tik tok, and california gurls, and if you want a live example of this http://unoriginalmusic.ytmnd.com/)

and most country. (I don't know why people who like country veer kid rock as a country music artist, he's not... so you can't use him as an example of why its good)
 

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drzoidbergmd said:
I was raised on classic metal (Zeppelin, Sabbath) and then as I got older I got into a mix between good old fashioned psychedelic music and death and doom metal. As for the smoking discussion, people ask me if I'm drugs all the time, but that's what happens when you go to a conservative school in a conservative town in a conservative state. There's maybe fifteen people at my school who like REAL metal, and not one of us hasn't been accused of drug use since high school started. For the talent, allow me to lose my professional demeanor and say OH MY GOD METAL DRUMMERS ARE RIDICULOUS!
Yeah hard to find real metal heads. Idk maybe it was me but i got accused of smoking randomly. And yes there are some crazy ass drummers
 

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Plazmatic said:
Macheteswordgun said:
Edit 2. Why does being a metal head imply you automaticly smoke. Idk how many times in school people wanted to know if i smoked weed asked me for cigs etc. That was before i smoked *i enjoy cigars and pipe seeing as how im a refined man* This ever happen to anyone else
while really hard core metal, (that which is unintelligible in lyrics and rhythm to give it no hint that it is a song) is for the dumbasses I do know people who like metal (normal metal, and good heavy metal) and none smoke. However I think the metal genre is too hard for my tastes, (or maybe I do like it, I just don't know what I am listening to is metal) but, due to an advance sense of empathy, I understand why it sounds good to people, the only music I don't understand is, the same music they play on the radio over and over again, and then songs that again, hit the top but sound almost exactly the same (example, tik tok, and california gurls, and if you want a live example of this http://unoriginalmusic.ytmnd.com/)

and most country. (I don't know why people who like country veer kid rock as a country music artist, he's not... so you can't use him as an example of why its good)
True you have a good point my friend. And fuck the core music
 

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Yureina said:
I dabbled in metal in my teens, but after a while I guess I did "grow out of it". At the same time, I have a very "loose" interest in music, so one might say that I just stopped listening actively to stuff in general rather than having a falling-out with a specific genre.
True with how hectic life can be its hard to find time for music sometimes
 

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amaranth_dru said:
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*snip*

Yeah normal people have such a bad view on metal heads while most of us are people who are good citizens etc just enjoy a different type of music thats out there away from there nice little houses etc. On a side note pits scare normal people so bad. I would explain myself beating people with no mercy and watch "normal" people be appualed i mean its nothing but good fun with a good set of rules in the pit and its just a release really nothing more. It sucks when a musician dies to sorry to hear for your loss
He made the 27 club for musicians, its sad but life moves on, and so do we. I love the looks on people's faces when I describe nearly breaking my leg in a Rob Zombie pit as one of the best times of my life... or getting a fresh piercing ripped out... lol. Its a form of catharsis, it helps me to remove the rage/frustration that builds up over time, and there usually is a form of etiquette in the pit. Its not a fight because by the time you realize you got hit in the face, you've no idea who did it so you just go out and stick someone else, and it keeps going (of course its not always punches, sometimes pushes or pulls or catapults/slingshots)... hell I remember one good pit a buddy and I started doing circles around the edges being pulled and slingshotted along until the crowd was a blur. Then a 7' tall brick-shithouse of a native american stepped out in front of me and stopped both our forward momentum without even budging. He then picked my friend and I up by our shoulders, patted us on the head and said "Nice try."
I'm not a pit person, but they're fun to watch(and be on the outside edge of). There's something amazing about them. All those people slamming into each other, but when someone falls down, the pit instantly stops and all those people are reaching down to help the person back up. Then, when someone get accidentally involved, the people in the pit don't force them into it, they just let the bystander out.

You wouldn't think such a controlled chaos existed.

Actually, large events are altogether amazing. The last one I went to was 32,000+. I got knocked on my ass by a huge crowd surfer and the second I hit the ground I had 20 hands bringing me back up.
Yeah there are some huge pits i was in the devildriver download *est 65,00 people* it was fucking crazy but there are good pit rules like i saw a guy go down bad and they closed off half the pit *fans* and got him taken care of
 

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floppylobster said:
I would say about 80% of people grow out of metal. For the most part it's just hard to feel the same sense of rage and anger or even energy when you're older.

The same thing happens with porn. You'll still want to look at nude women, you just won't be turned on as easily.

So fuck it, enjoy it while you can.
This can be true but theres always that one type of porn you go back to like metal lol
 

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Glamorgan said:
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I've always been told or heard that everyone eventualy grows out of metal.
Uh, no offense, but the fact is, there are a good deal of people who never like metal, (me being one of them) so that statement is a little imprecise.
But yeah. Sorry, but I hate metal.
Were you raised in a barn? I kid i kid. Yeah alot of people dont like it but when you do like it you'll hear that everyone eventualy leaves it
 

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CORRODED SIN said:
Macheteswordgun said:
real metal heads *not you core pussies*
lol. I enjoy Lamb of God, and they're all in their 40s at least. They didn't grow out of it, and neither have many others. I have never heard of people growing out of metal. I have seen some of my friends do it though. All I listen to is metal, and I always have music playing.

Edit 1. I would like to bring into this thread metal musicians talent. Im talking about real skills not ooo lets play this breakdown in g etc. I mean who can shread play the works. Also a random drum discussion. I beleive that gravity rolling is fucking cheating. I respect a man who can do 280 bpm *thats 4 hits* with single strokes than some guy who can sound fast and just let something else do all the god damn work. Side note triggers do nothing but add to your sound not speed etc
I use to be able to do 4 hits in 1 stroke, nearly 5:1, but then I broke my hand and haven't been able to play the same since. I can still do triples okay though.

Edit 2. Why does being a metal head imply you automaticly smoke. Idk how many times in school people wanted to know if i smoked weed asked me for cigs etc. That was before i smoked *i enjoy cigars and pipe seeing as how im a refined man* This ever happen to anyone else
I'm not sure. I don't smoke often, and most people don't think I smoke at all.
Well good to see a drummer in here. Idk maybe its just my looks they thought i smoked.
 

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Citrus Insanity said:
I grew out of a certain type of metal (Iron Maiden, Megadeth, etc) but I wouldn't say I've grown out of the genre altogether, or that it's really possible to. There's a lot of stuff you can do with metal, after all, just like any other style.
Yeah some bands get old quick others dont
 

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Well... wether or not you grow out of metal depends on what you're really looking for in music and in life; if you're happy sticking to just one genre, then fine. No offense, I'm a metalhead myself, but I never supported it as "the only way of good music", or even the dreaded "trveness" of some ignorant shitheads. Music is about feelings, emotions, stories and rebellion, about freedom and imagination, but not about finding the holy grail of music that appeals to everyone. So I often don't understand the urge of fanatic metalheads to convert everyone they encounter to the glory realms of (heavy) metal. It's a personal thing.

That being said, I think I'm not grown out of metal, but out of our subculture. I hate to say it, but like in every other subculture, the half of it are total idiots. And the whole metalcore - movement makes things even worse. As you mentioned the moshpits - I liked them when I was younger, for the same reasons as you did. I always respected the hidden "codex", so when anyone was falling down, I helped him up. This year at RockHarz festival in Germany someone lost his glasses (or maybe earplugs, i guess) while Kreator were playing, and we formed a circle aorund him against the moshpit to help him.

But the mosh itself were brutal and respectless, and I partially blame the metalcore teenies for this. It's not okay, jumping around, kicking and punching everyone in sight in the faces. At Darkness over X-Mas in Hamburg in december last year, I got the knee of 15 - year old crowdsurfer in the face, because he stupidly jumped from the stage into the crowd during the gig of Dark Tranquillity. My nose bleeded as it never bleeded before, and I remember how moshpits were a little less dangerous just a few years ago.

Okay, but that's maybe beside the point and yeah, I still love metal to the death, but I'm a bit emberassed to be put into the same scene like those morons. And that's sad, because it should be all about the music, not about genres, T -Shirts, ideologies etc. And if you're saying that there's just one true way of metal like almost half of the metal world, than you're nothing better than any religious leader on this planet.

Well... I started with german punk in my early teenager days, then made my first contact with Subway to Sally, a german medieval - metal/goth band. Than, my emo - phase with Linkin Barf and AFI began, interrupted by short outbreaks of the Offspring/BadReligion/Green Day - virus. Then, finally, I arrived at metal. First with stuff like Finntroll, fueled by my interest for fantasy and the medieval ages, then i discovered In Flames (when they still did melodic death) and soon "The Jester Race" and "Reroute to Remain" became my favourite albums. At the same time, I learned to know Children of Bodom and Nightwish, and they all together formed my "starting trio". From there I expaneded my knowledge about metal, through Iron Maiden, Equilibrium, and a short period of Darkthrone, then finally got to the classics in the last two years. I have to admit, I'm a bit more focused on the european metal scene; I never really got into Slayer, sorry, because I found Kreator and in common the german Thrash movement (Sodom, Destruction...) much more interesting because I found them more... rough, in terms of overall sound. Then the skandinavian ones, like Immortal, Dark Tranquillity, Hypocrisy, Arch Enemy and of course, Therion. Back to germany with Rage, and SuidAkra, to Holland with Epica. Then there came the big flood of medieval/pagan/folk - metal bands over europe, which I refused to follow. I looked out for more Synths and less bagpipes, the result (strangely) was Dream Theater. Last year, I found out about Behemoth and Shrinebuilder. And this year about Ayreon and Nile. Classics? Motörhead and Megadeth.

Oh, and Yesterday, Star One. Pure awesomness.

You see? You don't outgrow metal, if you live it and love it. And even if the scene is becoming more and more balls, and besides, why is it so important what non - metalheads think of us? Like a shirt from Die Apokalyptischen Reiter (german for the riders of the apocalypse) says that I own, metal will never die. Because of People like you and me.

Sorry for the long post.
Tis ok for the post. Yeah there are those rules and stuff it is cool. Pits use to be just pushing having fun etc now u got those pussy core kids throwing punches doing retarded dances etc. I myself got hit in the nose by one and proceeded to beat the living shit out of him till the secuirty guard pulled me off of him. Yeah theres always some interesting band that starts you then you continue to better and heavier stuff
 

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Mortagog said:
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Sheesh. How shallow are the people in your community? I'm in my late teens and I've been listening to metal since I was twelve. Both my uncle and my father listen to metal and have done so for more than 40 years, I've been at several festivals this summer, chiefly metal among them Sweden Rock Festival, at which the average age of the visitors must have landed at about 30, metal artists don't outgrow metal and I recently spoke to a woman pushing 60 who listens to metal.

So, yeah...

My taste in music has broadened since my interest in it began, but I don't see myself ceasing to like metal any time soon. If people don't grow out of cash-cow pop music, why should anyone grow out of metal? The concept is absurd.
Very from what i can tell lol
 

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faselei said:
Still like metal, but tastes broaden as you get older. I prefer other types of music now, but I still like metal in the right place and time.
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Still find myself liking other stuff but metals my old war horse
 

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Macheteswordgun said:
I've always been told or heard that everyone eventualy grows out of metal. Im sure it will never happen to me but i still dont know why everyone says it. I go to a lot of concerts meet a lot of bands real metal heads *not you core pussies* and some of them are in there 60's and later still enjoying it. I've loved metal since i was 4 years old and continue to this day. Also my father was a metalhead who got into it way back in the aerosmith days and probaly will continue till the day he dies. So my discussion is this why do you think people say or grow out of metal once they are "older" or will you be like me and be a metalhead forever \m/

Edit 1. I would like to bring into this thread metal musicians talent. Im talking about real skills not ooo lets play this breakdown in g etc. I mean who can shread play the works. Also a random drum discussion. I beleive that gravity rolling is fucking cheating. I respect a man who can do 280 bpm *thats 4 hits* with single strokes than some guy who can sound fast and just let something else do all the god damn work. Side note triggers do nothing but add to your sound not speed etc

Edit 2. Why does being a metal head imply you automaticly smoke. Idk how many times in school people wanted to know if i smoked weed asked me for cigs etc. That was before i smoked *i enjoy cigars and pipe seeing as how im a refined man* This ever happen to anyone else
A metal heart is hard to break apart :)
Heard my first metal album when I started my teens: Manowar - Triumph of steel. To this day its one of my favorite albums even if it is cheesy as a homemade pizza. While I listen to other music styles than metal, there is nothing that can give me the chills or make me feel as much as metal can (real metal, not the nu-metal stuff).

I predict this will not change to much seeing as I am almost 29 years now and WAY past my "rebellious" years. METAL FOREVER!
Yeah stays with you froever. Manowar loudest band in the land! lol
 

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Audio said:
When you get older and go for a job interview...i dont think they would appreciate knowing you still mosh to heavy metal :)
I'd imagine you will still enjoy the music but the life style will probably drift from you.
Didnt mention a damn thing when i went in for mine a bit ago *got the job* had to shave cut my hair a bit etc
 

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I don't think that I will ever stop listening to metal. I started with Slipknot[footnote]They are metal.No matter what anyone might think.[/footnote] when I was nine. And now at age sixteen,I listen to almost everything. I listen all parts of the metal spectrum. Black,death,core,nu,heavy,classic,melodic ect. It's all good. But I however like most genres of music as well.
 

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I listened to metalcore in like high school, then by first year in college i started listening to other stuff. I think its because metal (barring certain genres like black metal) really starts to get monotonous. This is especially evident with metalcore. The set pieces just begin to repeat themselves.
 

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I used to listen to metal a lot as a teenager. I'm now 36 and I rarely do these days. I didn't change my taste though - metal just changed. It went all nu-metal for a while with rap influences (which mostly didn't suit it), and now it's all this "metalcore" stuff which doesn't really interest me much either
You forgot the abomination that was the funk-metal fusion trend before nu-metal... or maybe you didn't forget but were supressing the memory, in which case I apologise.
 

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I've been into metal since I first heard it when I was a kid - my dad listened to old hard rock and early metal, and my babysitter when I was ~8-10ish was a metalhead (chick, suffice to say she left me with a permanent crush on metalchicks). I'm particularly fond of Norwegian, Finnish, and Russian metal - and I spent a 5 months exploring them and Denmark/Germany for the metal :)

I would say I have considerable experience in the field (oh, I used to work in a store that specialized in custom gaming rigs and metal when I was younger). In my experience - real metalheads are pretty well born that way, they never grow out of it, they always hear the call. Then there is a collection of posers who think they are into metal but are actually just rebelling, you can spot the difference because posers don't have any taste for metal - they listen to the "scariest" band they can bear the sound of, and pretty consistently pick the worst track from any given album as their favorite.

Posers grow up. Metalheads are eternal.
 

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I'm 17 and I've more or less outgrown it.

I loved it about a year ago but now I can't listen to most of it. Except for Opeth. God, I love Opeth.