Metal is starting to leave my heart

[Geekosaurus]

Sound like you need some kind of anti-arc reactor chest-piece that pushes metal into your heart, rather than keeping it away from it.

 

[DoomCaek]

I don't think that its exactly a contreversial view that metal doesn't exactly cover all the emotional bases or is appropriate in all situations. No genres are like that. Metal, almost by definition could never provide the undiluted sugar rush of a good indie pop song, likewise an indie pop song will never tickle my dark side or blow me away with flashy instrumetal skill. Each genre has various things it does well. I think that the only way you can have a good music taste is to have a diverse one, to have knowledge of all genres.
Each genre has its own rich history and a decent number of artists that anyone could come to appreciate given a bit of open mindedness. If there is any major genre that you are not listening to, then you are missing out on a massive amount of good music and culture.

None of these complaints are to do with metal specifically, but this closed mindedness to other genres seems to affect heavy metal particularly strongly for some reason. I don't know any rap fans that don't listen to a bit of electronica, pop or the occaisional cross over rock song. I don't know any indie kids who don't dabble similarly. On the other hands I have met plenty of metalheads that clearly don't really listen to much else. Furthermore, I haven't met any that do listen to a wide variety outside of metal.

Also, people don't hate metal just because "its not pop". Lets not kid ourselves, as much as I like metal, I can think of a hundred perfectly legitimate reasons why your average person wouldn't. When trying to explain the merrits of "Raining Blood" to non-metal friends of mine, it didn't take long before I realised that describing it as "brutal", "crushing" or "sounds like the appocalypse" wasn't going to warm it to anyone.

It seems to me that you know so very little about metal. There are so many different sub genres of metal, and as I said before - it doesn't have to be brutal. Metal can be very "soft" as well.
I did not say that metal makes you feel like when you listen to indie pop. And when you say that metal "could never provide the undiluted sugar rush of a good indie pop song", well that's your opinion. How can you speak for everyone else about that? There might be some people who gets that exact feeling or similar when listening to metal. You don't know how different people experience things.

I think that you feel that way about metalheads because you have only met the few who "hates everything but metal". A lot of people listen to both metal and many other genres of music. They are metalheads but that does not mean that they cannot enjoy something else than metal. Maybe you define the term metalhead as a person who only listens to metal? Well, there you go - no wonder all the metalheads you know only listens to metal, eh? But really, lots of people listen to metal and you don't know about it because they listen to so much else as well. Stop being so generalizing.

Also, I did not say that people hate metal, and I did not say that it's because "it's not pop". I said that SOME people don't like it for that reason. Just like SOME 'metalheads' don't like pop because "it's not metal". Some people, dude. Not all.

I'm not sure that you 'love' metal if you can think of a hundred reasons why not to But be my guest. Besides, a lot of reasons could be described as to why not to listen to any kind of genre, so I don't know where you're going with that.

Some people wouldn't want to listen to "Raining Blood", some would. Chill.

 

[Spongebobdickpants]

I always liked electronic music although aas i get older i'm liking different types for example i used to like Pendulum's In Silico and ONLY that of they'res and Daft Punk now i love Hold your Colour more than in silico (although immersion trumps them both) and i like (some of) deadmau5's music and a whole heap of the prodigy,and some justice for good measure .

If you like Pendulum's HYC you should check out some DJ Fresh (he's collaborated with Pendulum a few times), Sub Focus (Also collaborated with Pendulum, and remixed some Prodigy) and High Contrast. All amazing DnB producers.

ty i'll check them out.

 

[FightThePower]

I was a "hate everything that's not metal" kinda guy when I was younger but Metal has started to get blasted away from me by the loud beats of Techno, Drum n' Bass etc.

I congratulate you on your improvement in music taste.

I used to like awful pop-punk-rock stuff, but then I decided to get a proper music taste and went out and became a lover of what you like now - Techno, DnB, all that stuff. As well as synthpop.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

I think you need to have a sense of perspective here. There's nothing wrong (in fact I encourage it) with having diversity in your musical taste and at least appreciating other genres of music.

Thanks to my dad I was raised on the "classics" like Led Zepplin, The Who, The Doors, The Rolling Stones and The Beatles (a lot of 'Thes')
When I hit school I went from rap (Public Enemy, NWA, Ice-T, De La Soul, etc); to metal (Fear Factory, Sepultura, Pantera, Napalm Death); to grunge (Nirvana, AIC, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney); to punk/hardcore (Black Flag, Fugazi, Refused, The Ramones, No Use For A Name).
Over the last few years I've gravitated toward Industrial/Aggrotech (NIN, FLA, Combichrist, KMFDM).

My record collection has everything from Pop Will Eat Itself to Stevie Wonder. But I tend to find that over my musical journey I've always had metal in my heart.
So I say embrace diversity and don't let anyone rubbish your taste in music. To any music lover it's something subjective and very personal. If music was removed from the world I'd shrivel up and die.

 

[loc978]

Loving one musical genre to the exclusion of all others isn't healthy... and Slipknot isn't real metal [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdqDAHaun4], anyway. (kidding, of course. They're just nu metal/alt metal [http://www.mapofmetal.com/#/home]... damn bastard children anyway)

I've never liked repetitive club beats such as the new stuff you've discovered, but to each his own.

My musical expansion for 2010 was getting more into Nerdcore rap.

 

[Thebiggestpanda]

I was a "hate everything that's not metal" kinda guy when I was younger but Metal has started to get blasted away from me by the loud beats of Techno, Drum n' Bass etc.

One of my favorite songs last year was

Spoiler

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and now it's

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And for added discussion value I'll ask you how have you're taste of music evolved the last year/years?

I think you really should listen to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJdzm9h6rfI

 

[the Dept of Science]

I don't think that its exactly a contreversial view that metal doesn't exactly cover all the emotional bases or is appropriate in all situations. No genres are like that. Metal, almost by definition could never provide the undiluted sugar rush of a good indie pop song, likewise an indie pop song will never tickle my dark side or blow me away with flashy instrumetal skill. Each genre has various things it does well. I think that the only way you can have a good music taste is to have a diverse one, to have knowledge of all genres.
Each genre has its own rich history and a decent number of artists that anyone could come to appreciate given a bit of open mindedness. If there is any major genre that you are not listening to, then you are missing out on a massive amount of good music and culture.

None of these complaints are to do with metal specifically, but this closed mindedness to other genres seems to affect heavy metal particularly strongly for some reason. I don't know any rap fans that don't listen to a bit of electronica, pop or the occaisional cross over rock song. I don't know any indie kids who don't dabble similarly. On the other hands I have met plenty of metalheads that clearly don't really listen to much else. Furthermore, I haven't met any that do listen to a wide variety outside of metal.

Also, people don't hate metal just because "its not pop". Lets not kid ourselves, as much as I like metal, I can think of a hundred perfectly legitimate reasons why your average person wouldn't. When trying to explain the merrits of "Raining Blood" to non-metal friends of mine, it didn't take long before I realised that describing it as "brutal", "crushing" or "sounds like the appocalypse" wasn't going to warm it to anyone.

It seems to me that you know so very little about metal. There are so many different sub genres of metal, and as I said before - it doesn't have to be brutal. Metal can be very "soft" as well.
I did not say that metal makes you feel like when you listen to indie pop. And when you say that metal "could never provide the undiluted sugar rush of a good indie pop song", well that's your opinion. How can you speak for everyone else about that? There might be some people who gets that exact feeling or similar when listening to metal. You don't know how different people experience things.

I think that you feel that way about metalheads because you have only met the few who "hates everything but metal". A lot of people listen to both metal and many other genres of music. They are metalheads but that does not mean that they cannot enjoy something else than metal. Maybe you define the term metalhead as a person who only listens to metal? Well, there you go - no wonder all the metalheads you know only listens to metal, eh? But really, lots of people listen to metal and you don't know about it because they listen to so much else as well. Stop being so generalizing.

Also, I did not say that people hate metal, and I did not say that it's because "it's not pop". I said that SOME people don't like it for that reason. Just like SOME 'metalheads' don't like pop because "it's not metal". Some people, dude. Not all.

I'm not sure that you 'love' metal if you can think of a hundred reasons why not to But be my guest. Besides, a lot of reasons could be described as to why not to listen to any kind of genre, so I don't know where you're going with that.

Some people wouldn't want to listen to "Raining Blood", some would. Chill.

I have about 25 metal albums from various genres and periods, which is, coincidentally, approximately equal to the amount of jazz albums I have, folk albums I have and rap albums I have. I "love" metal as much as I love any of these other genres. I think its great for certain moods.
I'm aware that metal doesn't have to be brutal. I'm guessing that you are referring to epic/symphonic/progressive/whatever metal or drone/stoner metal. These also serve their own moods and purposes. All I'm saying that no matter what metal subgenre you are talking about, you aren't going to get any metal songs that sounds like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIf3a9FUJj4 or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtaan0pTbhk or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd-A-iiPoLg or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvGHQHiY70 or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8RZ8TOa4I
And by primarily listening to any one genre, you will be missing out on a great variety of music.
I define metalheads as people that describe themselves as metalheads. I know lots of people dabble in metal; as I've said, I do so myself. They aren't really the people that I'm talking about. The people I'm talking about are the ones who seem to listen to 90% metal and I haven't met anyone that does that for any other genre.
The reasons why the average person would dislike metal are also some of its strong points. People use different standards with which to judge music. Metal makes use of the extremes of tempo, volume, dissonance and technical skill, and a metal fan will see these all as positive traits. Mr Average is unlikely to care about these traits, and metal is unlikely to mean much to him.

I don't think any of these points are exactly contreversial.

 

[phelan511]

It's a healthy developement really. Typical metalheads are always bragging about being tolerant and openminded, but as you start to grow out of it you come to realise it's quite the opposite. There's so much awesome music out there, it's ridiculous to just listen to one genre because that makes you "true".

Agreed. The ones declaring being "true" the loudest tend to be 12-17 year olds who IMO are just trying too hard. And it comes out in similar fashion as the profanity-spewing jerks in Xbox Live.

I consider myself as a serious fan of metal, since that is where ultimately my heart lies. However, I also enjoy a lot of other music, like 90s pop or any other good party tunes.


As for metal recommendations: RAMMSTEIN. Enough said.

thank you for being the first to recognize the rammstein is badass on this forum

 

[Godhead]

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions because you posted a slipknot song as one of your ex favorites, but it could be because you weren't listening to many good metal bands.

HERESY!

What is good metal then?

I've never liked Slipknot that much. A few bands to look at if you think you might not be interested in metal is Amon Amarth, Hammerfall (made many converts with them), and System of a Down.

 

[Wolfram23]

Deadmau5 ftw.

 

[DoomCaek]

I have about 25 metal albums from various genres and periods, which is, coincidentally, approximately equal to the amount of jazz albums I have, folk albums I have and rap albums I have. I "love" metal as much as I love any of these other genres. I think its great for certain moods.
I'm aware that metal doesn't have to be brutal. I'm guessing that you are referring to epic/symphonic/progressive/whatever metal or drone/stoner metal. These also serve their own moods and purposes. All I'm saying that no matter what metal subgenre you are talking about, you aren't going to get any metal songs that sounds like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIf3a9FUJj4 or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtaan0pTbhk or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd-A-iiPoLg or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvGHQHiY70 or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8RZ8TOa4I

Maybe you won't find any metal songs that sounds like that. My point was that the feeling you get from listening to these songs, someone else might be getting from listening to metal.

I can get relaxed listening to metal. I can "chill" to metal. I can be at a party where there's metal played. I can sleep to metal. I'm not just talking about epic/symphonic/progressive/whatever metal. "brutal" metal bands also make slow/soft songs. Again, the point is how different minds experience the same things differently...

And by primarily listening to any one genre, you will be missing out on a great variety of music.
I define metalheads as people that describe themselves as metalheads. I know lots of people dabble in metal; as I've said, I do so myself. They aren't really the people that I'm talking about. The people I'm talking about are the ones who seem to listen to 90% metal and I haven't met anyone that does that for any other genre.
The reasons why the average person would dislike metal are also some of its strong points. People use different standards with which to judge music. Metal makes use of the extremes of tempo, volume, dissonance and technical skill, and a metal fan will see these all as positive traits. Mr Average is unlikely to care about these traits, and metal is unlikely to mean much to him.

I don't think any of these points are exactly contreversial.

Exactly, you are talking about are "the ones who seem to listen to 90% metal". You said yourself that you were talking about 'metalheads'.

I like metal but I dislike metalheads.

(Which kinda pisses me off since I call myself a metalhead )

And yeah, I don't know why you keep on talking about why it's great to listen to different kinds of music genres - I didn't argue about that.
And you are talking about that some like metal and some don't, that's exactly what I've been saying? Where are you heading?

 

[bobknowsall]

You develop new tastes as you grow up. 'Tis natural.

 

[PixelKing]

Avenged Sevenfold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bGzWyHbu0

 

[Wondermint13]

Is Iron Maiden Metal?

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

I like metal, it's the best type of music in my opinion. But you have to broaden your horizon of metal. I used to only like three bands and now I like all different types of metal and many different bands. Not to say that listening to a type of music you like isn't up to you.

 

[11thDoctorDrew]

Over time my music taste has changed a lot. I still listen to some metal but I've found myself more inclined towards indie etc now.

 

[micky]

I was a "hate everything that's not metal" kinda guy when I was younger but Metal has started to get blasted away from me by the loud beats of Techno, Drum n' Bass etc.

if you like drum and bass have you heard of pendulum? if not look at the album "hold your colour", its there best. its one of the few albums that i like all the songs on it.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

Is Iron Maiden Metal?

Yes it is