Michael Bay: Today is "Day One" For Transformers 3

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Made up my mind not to see the first one based on the released images of what Megatron would look like. Never really cared for Bumblebee, but he was known for his VW image.

btw,

Michael Bay does not beat dead horses, he shoots them with 100,000 rounds of armour piercing bullets then calls in a thermo-nuke airstrike. The plane that drops the bomb is then shot down with a surface to air nuclear missle, the S.A.M site is then hit with an asteroid the size of Texas which is simultaneously destroy by a nuke that was drilled to the asteroids' core.
 

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Arcane Azmadi said:
Man, this announcement makes me so angry, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna not go see the film! I'm gonna pointedly not go see the film over and over again! The same way I didn't go to see the first two films! Suck on that Michael fucking Bay!

You know what would be a good idea, though? Start the film by blowing up the earth and killing every single human. Not even Michael Bay could fuck up the film as badly as he did the first two when he only has the mother-fucking Transformers! left to work with.

traceur_ said:
WanderFreak said:
...OH GOD YES!

I don't care what anyone says, I love Michael Bay and I loved the Transformers movies.

They reached right into my head and poked that happy spot.
High-five, my brother!

Revenge of The Fallen is easily the most fun movie I've ever seen, positively epic, and this one will be mind-blowing.
You've only ever seen one movie in your life, haven't you?

Seriously, only someone with a RIDICULOUSLY small pool of reference could POSSIBLY describe Transformers 2 as "the most fun movie I've ever seen". Because, irrespective of its own quality (which is appalling) there are SO MANY MORE fun movies out there.

The stupidity and arrogance in your post is simply staggering, nay, mind-blowing. Listen fuckwit, there's this thing called "opinion", perhaps you've heard of it? But you don't understand? OK I'll explain:

There is nothing in this universe, in these eleven dimensions that is intrinsically good or bad, better or worse. When you see a shark high-five a monkey, it is awesome. When you are not there, it is not awesome. The awesome is contained within your mind and never leaps into the outside world, when you leave, the awesome leaves with you. There is no such thing as quality because by definition, it is universal, and as I've already said, there is no worth or value of something outside our minds. You are right in saying I have a small pool of reference for movies, I don't watch them very often because movies are nothing more than stupid little escapisms, they don't serve a purpose, they only exist to entertain.

This may come as a shock to you but you are not me, shocking I know, your opinions are not mine nor are mine yours, I had more fun watching Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen than any other movie I've seen because it's only goal is to entertain, explosions, giant robots and Megan Fox all look magnificent and are thus entertaining TO ME. As I've already stated, you are not me, my opinions differ from yours and so you are completely and utterly wrong in saying that there are movies more fun than TF2, because what you say is an attempt to project your perception outside of your mind, which is impossible.

In conclusion: boo-yah.
 

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traceur_ said:
Arcane Azmadi said:
My original post edited for space

The stupidity and arrogance in your post is simply staggering, nay, mind-blowing. Listen fuckwit, there's this thing called "opinion", perhaps you've heard of it? But you don't understand? OK I'll explain:

There is nothing in this universe, in these eleven dimensions that is intrinsically good or bad, better or worse. When you see a shark high-five a monkey, it is awesome. When you are not there, it is not awesome. The awesome is contained within your mind and never leaps into the outside world, when you leave, the awesome leaves with you. There is no such thing as quality because by definition, it is universal, and as I've already said, there is no worth or value of something outside our minds. You are right in saying I have a small pool of reference for movies, I don't watch them very often because movies are nothing more than stupid little escapisms, they don't serve a purpose, they only exist to entertain.

This may come as a shock to you but you are not me, shocking I know, your opinions are not mine nor are mine yours, I had more fun watching Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen than any other movie I've seen because it's only goal is to entertain, explosions, giant robots and Megan Fox all look magnificent and are thus entertaining TO ME. As I've already stated, you are not me, my opinions differ from yours and so you are completely and utterly wrong in saying that there are movies more fun than TF2, because what you say is an attempt to project your perception outside of your mind, which is impossible.

In conclusion: boo-yah.
Arrogant? Maybe. Stupid? Hardly. You thought you were in a position to explain things to me; well allow me to educate you a little since you were wrong on so many levels (I was planning on making a post about this very topic, but this is as good a place as any to get started):

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, far too many people (such as yourself) delude themselves into thinking all opinions are equally valid. It may surprise you to know that opinions can, in fact, be WRONG. While opinions can be subjective, "quality" is not- there IS such thing as quality by definition. A finger painting my young cousin did on butchers paper is NOT better art than the roof of the Sistine Chapel, ET for the Atari 2600 is NOT a better game than ICO and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is NOT a good film. By any reasonable standard of judgement (which you sadly lack), it sucks in every regard. Now, I'm not saying you CAN'T enjoy the film- I'm just saying that if you CAN genuinely enjoy it then that is honestly tragically sad, because your experiences are so limited that you can actually enjoy a piece-of-shit film like that. You could be SO MUCH HAPPIER if you were watching a GOOD film.

Someone asked my for examples of films that are more fun that Transformers 2. While I can name MANY that I think more enjoyable than Transformers 2, I have to take into account that many of those are only my opinion (Aragami, my all-time favourite chambara film, would probably bore a lot of people shitless because of its slow opening and psychological build-up), so I'll only list some of the ones that are INDISPUTABLY enjoyable:

Aliens
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Airplane!
Die Hard
DISTRICT! FUCKING! 9! (Sorry Bob)
The Dark Knight
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (unless you're some kind of braindead "cartoons are for kids" snob)
AKIRA (likewise)
The Crow
The Blues Brothers

If you can watch ANY of those films all the way through and then look me in the eye and tell me that Revenge of the Fallen is better then (a) you are WRONG and (b) you were probably born retarded. Which is honestly, genuinely sad.

canadamus_prime said:
Boy we're awfully critical for a bunch of people who've never made movies in our lives.
Well of COURSE we're critical! We're the goddamn AUDIENCE. These films are made for OUR benefit! We don't have to be filmmmakers ourselves to know what's shit and what isn't. And personally, I probably won't ever be able to "make" a films since I only work in postproduction and am not particularly interested in working as a director, producer or screenwriter.

And the reason these films attract so much bile is BECAUSE they're massively successful DESPITE being putrid pieces of shit, encouraging the creation of more crap like that because "it sells" rather than genuinely good, well-made and original films. We were goddamn fortunate we got District 9. That is genuinely something to get angry about and makes Michael Bay and all the douchebags like him "the enemy" of decent filmmaking.
 

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Arcane Azmadi said:
traceur_ said:
Arcane Azmadi said:
My original post edited for space

The stupidity and arrogance in your post is simply staggering, nay, mind-blowing. Listen fuckwit, there's this thing called "opinion", perhaps you've heard of it? But you don't understand? OK I'll explain:

There is nothing in this universe, in these eleven dimensions that is intrinsically good or bad, better or worse. When you see a shark high-five a monkey, it is awesome. When you are not there, it is not awesome. The awesome is contained within your mind and never leaps into the outside world, when you leave, the awesome leaves with you. There is no such thing as quality because by definition, it is universal, and as I've already said, there is no worth or value of something outside our minds. You are right in saying I have a small pool of reference for movies, I don't watch them very often because movies are nothing more than stupid little escapisms, they don't serve a purpose, they only exist to entertain.

This may come as a shock to you but you are not me, shocking I know, your opinions are not mine nor are mine yours, I had more fun watching Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen than any other movie I've seen because it's only goal is to entertain, explosions, giant robots and Megan Fox all look magnificent and are thus entertaining TO ME. As I've already stated, you are not me, my opinions differ from yours and so you are completely and utterly wrong in saying that there are movies more fun than TF2, because what you say is an attempt to project your perception outside of your mind, which is impossible.

In conclusion: boo-yah.
Arrogant? Maybe. Stupid? Hardly. You thought you were in a position to explain things to me; well allow me to educate you a little since you were wrong on so many levels (I was planning on making a post about this very topic, but this is as good a place as any to get started):

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, far too many people (such as yourself) delude themselves into thinking all opinions are equally valid. It may surprise you to know that opinions can, in fact, be WRONG. While opinions can be subjective, "quality" is not- there IS such thing as quality by definition. A finger painting my young cousin did on butchers paper is NOT better art than the roof of the Sistine Chapel, ET for the Atari 2600 is NOT a better game than ICO and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is NOT a good film. By any reasonable standard of judgement (which you sadly lack), it sucks in every regard. Now, I'm not saying you CAN'T enjoy the film- I'm just saying that if you CAN genuinely enjoy it then that is honestly tragically sad, because your experiences are so limited that you can actually enjoy a piece-of-shit film like that. You could be SO MUCH HAPPIER if you were watching a GOOD film.

Someone asked my for examples of films that are more fun that Transformers 2. While I can name MANY that I think more enjoyable than Transformers 2, I have to take into account that many of those are only my opinion (Aragami, my all-time favourite chambara film, would probably bore a lot of people shitless because of its slow opening and psychological build-up), so I'll only list some of the ones that are INDISPUTABLY enjoyable:

Aliens
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Airplane!
Die Hard
DISTRICT! FUCKING! 9! (Sorry Bob)
The Dark Knight
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (unless you're some kind of braindead "cartoons are for kids" snob)
AKIRA (likewise)
The Crow
The Blues Brothers

If you can watch ANY of those films all the way through and then look me in the eye and tell me that Revenge of the Fallen is better then (a) you are WRONG and (b) you were probably born retarded. Which is honestly, genuinely sad.

canadamus_prime said:
Boy we're awfully critical for a bunch of people who've never made movies in our lives.
Well of COURSE we're critical! We're the goddamn AUDIENCE. These films are made for OUR benefit! We don't have to be filmmmakers ourselves to know what's shit and what isn't. And personally, I probably won't ever be able to "make" a films since I only work in postproduction and am not particularly interested in working as a director, producer or screenwriter.

And the reason these films attract so much bile is BECAUSE they're massively successful DESPITE being putrid pieces of shit, encouraging the creation of more crap like that because "it sells" rather than genuinely good, well-made and original films. We were goddamn fortunate we got District 9. That is genuinely something to get angry about and makes Michael Bay and all the douchebags like him "the enemy" of decent filmmaking.
And I think if you can't carry on a debate without hurling insults, I find THAT tragically sad.
 

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Arcane Azmadi said:
traceur_ said:
Arcane Azmadi said:
My original post edited for space

The stupidity and arrogance in your post is simply staggering, nay, mind-blowing. Listen fuckwit, there's this thing called "opinion", perhaps you've heard of it? But you don't understand? OK I'll explain:

There is nothing in this universe, in these eleven dimensions that is intrinsically good or bad, better or worse. When you see a shark high-five a monkey, it is awesome. When you are not there, it is not awesome. The awesome is contained within your mind and never leaps into the outside world, when you leave, the awesome leaves with you. There is no such thing as quality because by definition, it is universal, and as I've already said, there is no worth or value of something outside our minds. You are right in saying I have a small pool of reference for movies, I don't watch them very often because movies are nothing more than stupid little escapisms, they don't serve a purpose, they only exist to entertain.

This may come as a shock to you but you are not me, shocking I know, your opinions are not mine nor are mine yours, I had more fun watching Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen than any other movie I've seen because it's only goal is to entertain, explosions, giant robots and Megan Fox all look magnificent and are thus entertaining TO ME. As I've already stated, you are not me, my opinions differ from yours and so you are completely and utterly wrong in saying that there are movies more fun than TF2, because what you say is an attempt to project your perception outside of your mind, which is impossible.

In conclusion: boo-yah.
Arrogant? Maybe. Stupid? Hardly. You thought you were in a position to explain things to me; well allow me to educate you a little since you were wrong on so many levels (I was planning on making a post about this very topic, but this is as good a place as any to get started):

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, far too many people (such as yourself) delude themselves into thinking all opinions are equally valid. It may surprise you to know that opinions can, in fact, be WRONG. While opinions can be subjective, "quality" is not- there IS such thing as quality by definition. A finger painting my young cousin did on butchers paper is NOT better art than the roof of the Sistine Chapel, ET for the Atari 2600 is NOT a better game than ICO and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is NOT a good film. By any reasonable standard of judgement (which you sadly lack), it sucks in every regard. Now, I'm not saying you CAN'T enjoy the film- I'm just saying that if you CAN genuinely enjoy it then that is honestly tragically sad, because your experiences are so limited that you can actually enjoy a piece-of-shit film like that. You could be SO MUCH HAPPIER if you were watching a GOOD film.

Someone asked my for examples of films that are more fun that Transformers 2. While I can name MANY that I think more enjoyable than Transformers 2, I have to take into account that many of those are only my opinion (Aragami, my all-time favourite chambara film, would probably bore a lot of people shitless because of its slow opening and psychological build-up), so I'll only list some of the ones that are INDISPUTABLY enjoyable:

Aliens
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Airplane!
Die Hard
DISTRICT! FUCKING! 9! (Sorry Bob)
The Dark Knight
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (unless you're some kind of braindead "cartoons are for kids" snob)
AKIRA (likewise)
The Crow
The Blues Brothers

If you can watch ANY of those films all the way through and then look me in the eye and tell me that Revenge of the Fallen is better then (a) you are WRONG and (b) you were probably born retarded. Which is honestly, genuinely sad.
Wow... just wow, no one can be this stupid, seriously mate. That was, without a doubt, the dumbest thing I've ever read.

I'm gonna break apart the stupid because it's too much to handle in one go....

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, far too many people (such as yourself) delude themselves into thinking all opinions are equally valid. It may surprise you to know that opinions can, in fact, be WRONG
Only if those opinions can disproven with fact. If I said "It's my opinion that the moon is a giant clown", then yeh, that is wrong.

While opinions can be subjective, "quality" is not- there IS such thing as quality by definition. A finger painting my young cousin did on butchers paper is NOT better art than the roof of the Sistine Chapel, ET for the Atari 2600 is NOT a better game than ICO and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is NOT a good film.
Take a moment to absorb your own stupidity here

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OK get up off the floor and stop trying to kill yourself, you can do that when I'm done.

Since you have no idea what opinion means, I'll let some online dictionaries explain:

o·pin·ion (-pnyn)
n.
1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion" (Elizabeth Drew).
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
4. The prevailing view: public opinion.
5. Law A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.
[Middle English, from Old French, from Latin opni, opnin-, from opnr, to think.]
Synonyms: opinion, view, sentiment, feeling, belief, conviction, persuasion
These nouns signify something a person believes or accepts as being sound or true. Opinion is applicable to a judgment based on grounds insufficient to rule out the possibility of dispute: "A little group of willful men, representing no opinion but their own, have rendered the great Government of the United States helpless and contemptible" (Woodrow Wilson).
View stresses individuality of outlook: "My view is . . . that freedom of speech means that you shall not do something to people either for the views they have or the views they express" (Hugo L. Black).
Sentiment and especially feeling stress the role of emotion as a determinant: "If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences . . . reason is of no use to us" (George Washington). "There needs protection . . . against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling" (John Stuart Mill).
A belief is a conclusion to which one subscribes strongly: "Our belief in any particular natural law cannot have a safer basis than our unsuccessful critical attempts to refute it" (Karl Popper).
Conviction is belief that excludes doubt: "the editor's own conviction of what, whether interesting or only important, is in the public interest" (Walter Lippmann).
Persuasion applies to a confidently held opinion: "He had a strong persuasion that Likeman was wrong" (H.G. Wells).

Main Entry: opin·ion
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈpin-yən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin opinion-, opinio, from opinari
Date: 14th century

1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter b : approval, esteem
2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a generally held view
3 a : a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert b : the formal expression (as by a judge, court, or referee) of the legal reasons and principles upon which a legal decision is based

? opin·ioned \-yənd\ adjective
synonyms opinion, view, belief, conviction, persuasion, sentiment mean a judgment one holds as true. opinion implies a conclusion thought out yet open to dispute . view suggests a subjective opinion . belief implies often deliberate acceptance and intellectual assent <a firm belief in her party's platform>. conviction applies to a firmly and seriously held belief . persuasion suggests a belief grounded on assurance (as by evidence) of its truth . sentiment suggests a settled opinion reflective of one's feelings <her feminist sentiments are well-known>.

n.

1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion" (Elizabeth Drew).
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
4. The prevailing view: public opinion.
5. Law. A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.

opinion definition

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noun

1. a belief not based on absolute certainty or positive knowledge but on what seems true, valid, or probable to one's own mind; judgment
2. an evaluation, impression, or estimation of the quality or worth of a person or thing
3. the formal judgment of an expert on a matter in which advice is sought
4. Law the formal statement by a judge, court referee, etc. of the law bearing on a case

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1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.

Get it now?

Quality doesn't exist, it can't be tested in a lab. There is no global standard measure of quality, if there was, all things would receive the same grade from independent sources. A particular song, movie, book, will get different reviews depending on who you ask, so no one has scientifically measured it's quality, it can only be measured by people with different OPINIONS, so OPINION is the origin of the concept of quality, so by your stupid logic, quality can be wrong, so there is no universal standard of quality.

Can you PROVE that your cousin's finger-painting is worse than Michelangelo's painting? No, you can't. If you can't prove it scientifically, it can't be measured or even thought of as in existence.

By any reasonable standard of judgement (which you sadly lack), it sucks in every regard. Now, I'm not saying you CAN'T enjoy the film- I'm just saying that if you CAN genuinely enjoy it then that is honestly tragically sad, because your experiences are so limited that you can actually enjoy a piece-of-shit film like that. You could be SO MUCH HAPPIER if you were watching a GOOD film.
Sorry, have we met? Have we ever spent the day together? I don't recall discussing with you my tastes in movies. You suggested Aliens and the blues brothers? Well if we had discussed this then you would know I think those movies suck, so they are not indisputably enjoyable at all. Seriously mate, if you say that then you obviously think that every single person on this planet thinks they were good, well here's a newsflash, YOU'RE WRONG, NOT EVERYONE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOOD, so right there, you're wrong, wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong, they were incredibly boring, but I guess since my opinion isn't the same as yours I must be retarded. Why is my standard of judgment worse than yours, pray tell? Is it because your time in existence has put you in situations that mold who you are, that somehow you have become better than me? Strange, because I've always thought that an arrogant person is a despicable one, that's my opinion. It is my opinion that you are an arrogant dickhead, but I can't prove that nor can I measure it in a lab, but nor can you disprove it. There is no universal constant that affects it so it can only be opinion.

Seriously I'm done, you're wrong buddy.

Please, don't respond to this, I can't take your stupidity anymore.
 

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Please, don't respond to this, I can't take your stupidity anymore.
OK, I think I'll leave this up to other readers on this thread: does anyone give enough of a shit about this argument to WANT to see me respond again? If not, I won't bother.
 

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As long as there's a script and a watchable film this time.
Not everything needs to be a Transformer, Mike. The element of surprise would be a nice touch.

I was really hoping the Aircraft carrier in TF:RotF would transform into a twatting great 'Con.
Not a chance. Everything fucking thing else did though.
 

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I wonder how he's gonna ufck up Galvatron and Unicron...

Guillermo del Toro or Zack Snyder would have done a masterpiece...

Bay is just like a tick...
He has sucked himself onto a beautiful body and left it with Lyme-Disease...
Just so we can see that heavenly body deteriorate untill it collapses...
You filthy parasite you Michael Bay...
And now he's got all that money from our dying dream...

I hope he xplodes himself in the making of this movie...
Maybe Unicron can end him or Galvatron accidentally steps on him...
Squash him like the nasty bug he is...
 

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Good good. I'd quite like another film with some cool explosions and hot women.
Suck it, you bloody elitist snobs.
Hooray! I'm not alone! :D

Seriously people, for the last time, it's a film based on a toy commercial.
 

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Yay, another bout of people lusting over Megan-Bloody-Fox, who proves once and for all that the vast majority of people think that Slutty is synonymous with Sexy.

She's not even that pretty.

Yeah I said it.

Also, Bay needs to get a better CGI director so it doesn't look like the Transformers are on some sort of alternate, similar 'plane' of existence.
Screw you!

I love slutty but this girl is not sexy.

Not much to be said, she really isn't attractive to me either.

Chipperz said:
WrongSprite said:
Good good. I'd quite like another film with some cool explosions and hot women.
Suck it, you bloody elitist snobs.
Hooray! I'm not alone! :D

Seriously people, for the last time, it's a film based on a toy commercial.
Yes. How dare people have a differing opinion on something.

I think most people are upset that every work of fiction relating to Transformers was more well done than these movies have been.

Everyone I know considers Bay to be one of the worst directors currently in the field. The depth that people took the characters of transformers to in those "commercials" was pretty damn good. Far greater than the shallow crap this is. Like the person you quoted said "Explosions and tits" is about all it has. Likewise they could have found someone better than Fox...at least find someone that anyone I know finds attractive.

At any rate, on my own advice, to each their own. I just find your reasoning to be a little flimsy. Considering the scope of information that has been collected about the backstory of transformers.

canadamus_prime said:
Boy we're awfully critical for a bunch of people who've never made movies in our lives.
Yes because if a surgeon leaves a blade in you and stitches you up you have no room to make any complaints since you've never done surgery before.

People are judging it based on previous works by other professionals. His movies are absolutely terrible, I found myself only getting excited because there was combat, but combat doesn't even have to be GOOD for me to get excited. I get excited because as a human (or basically any monkey) I am attracted to destruction.

By the end of it I didn't think about the movie for more than an hour. That is the shortest time I've ever thought about a film after the fact.

I was so unenthusiastic about the second one I haven't even looked up the spoilers for it. I at LEAST give Saw the benefit of the doubt and read the spoilers.

At any rate. The "I've never done it so I can't criticize" logic is pretty retarded. Unless you've never someone of a different gender, race, profession, age you have not yet reached, weight class you have not yet reached, or any of the millions of variables that can in some way alter the difficulty of grasping any activity.

I've seen a few hundred movies I imagine, I'm pretty sure by now I have an idea of what is possible. As would most folks.

Rusty Bucket said:
stonethered said:
Has he not heard what we, his primary target audience, think of these movies?
And I'm really tired of hearing people who think Megan Fox is some kind of goddess; she's not that hot!

On a side note, that clip in the article is awesome.
Judging by the $200 million dollars the second film made in its first week, just in America, i'd say he's got his target audience pretty much nailed.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with everyone? How can you not enjoy these movies? Sure thelpots a bit crap, and the acting isn't great, but the CGI is amazing and they're bloody good fun. What more do you want from a summer blockbuster?
Well a group of CGI hamsters made over 100 million dollars. People will go to a film for little to no reason if the prices are right. Likewise it is really goddamn hard to get your money returned if the movie is terrible, unless you can somehow tell the it "never gets better".

Basically 280 million people or so in the US didn't go to see the movie, for anyone who didn't like it they should take solace in the fact. At least I'm assuming since tickets around here are nearly 10 dollars a head. Likewise most of the people I know who 'loved' it went to it multiple times with each of their friends.

Amazing CGI is pretty easy these days, especially when dealing with objects made entirely out of METAL. Shit any 360 or PS3 game with metal units ends up looking fabulous.

But yeah...what do most people want in a movie? They want a good plot and good acting.

Pretty sure that is why Batman did so well. That and every other iconic movie in American history (that I can think of). I'm sure that Transformers won't be something people will see 10 years from now and go "OH MAN! That was an amazing movie. We should grab it for some good retro fun." Then again...nostalgia is a *****.
 

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I think the characters in the movies are a nice add-on...
Especially Shia and 'the parents'!
But in my opinion...
The movie should have had the Transformers as MAIN Characters instead of the little add-on...
Especially the Decepticons which have more personality than any Autobot or human....
It's more like 'Independence Day' or 'War of the Worlds' then it is a Transformers-story...
And where do they come from anyway? Where's Cybertron and the ships in which they've come to Earth?

It's like making a movie about Red Riding Hood in which...

The story is set in the desert instead of a forest...
The red hooded cape is like what... Aluminium cuz it reflects the desertheat...
Instead of a basket full of goodies she's having a refridgeratorcoffer with sandski's under it...
Grandma in bed is acted by Hugh Grant cuz his name has 'Gran' in it...
The big bad wolf is a (Dune-)Worm with hair on it... Cuz like the wolf had hair tooo...
And the hunter who saves the day is... Bay!
Cuz he always has so many explosions with him... And that would perfectly fit in this story...
Cuz Red Riding Hood in modern day setting would be a bit different than the actual storyline right?
 

Elemental

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i have to say, i turned off my brain when i went to the film, and yeah it was enjoyable.
BUT, in the middle of the second one my brain switched to ON and i suddenly realized that it was all just explosions, and big blurry spots that moving around the screen and making smaller explosions, what the fuck is going on?!

Michael Bay is the biggest 10-year-old i have ever seen.
the Transformers has a really intersting backstory, Mr. Bay has explosions.
seriously give this to a good director that actually knows what the fuck are they doing with their movies.
 

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Well. Can't wait to see the abomination that will be the third Transformers movie.
Transformers 2 was petty, stupid, and thoroughly painful to watch. It was so bad that I finally had a reason to thank James Cameron.

Megan Fox walking out of a free paycheck speaks leagues about Bay and his team.