Michael Pachter Predicts Next-Gen Console Prices

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absulute

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Was the PS3 close to $600 on launch?

There's no way the PS4 was be just over half that. No way.
 

tardcore

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The only way this could possibly happen is if both companies are stupid enough to once again sell their consoles below production cost for a large portion of their existence. Considering the batshit blather we've seen from Microsoft so far, I can't say such a thing is impossible. Though again this prediction is coming from the biggest blowhard charlatan since The Amazing Kresken so considering the source I feel we can safely discount it.
 

kailus13

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Silvianoshei said:
kailus13 said:
"We believe the ability to watch live TV from a cable, telco, or satellite set-top box through Xbox One could entice an MSO to drive subscriptions through a subsidized box in exchange for a multi-year contract,"

I have absolutely no clue what that means. What's an MSO?

Every prediction Michael Pachter seems to make turns out to be wrong. How does he still have a job?
Nowhere Man said:
What the heck does MSO mean? Is that the stuff you used to find in Chinese food?
MSO stands for Multiple-System Operator. It refers to companies that offer TV + internet + phone services for multiple areas.

EDIT: Wiki page for reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-system_operator
I see. Thank you for that. Here in England only 2 companies do cable. I don't think anyone would be interested in having Microsoft involved with their phone.
 

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SkarKrow said:
Didn't he also rag on the Wii and 3DS? He also said the next xbox wouldn't require an internet connection or have odd used game DRM going on or require kinect all the time.

He's been oddly quiet on the Xbox One front.

I WONDER WHY. HMMMMM.
I know he's wrong a lot and has his own bias towards consoles, BUT I like to think that he's an experienced businessman and knows enough about what he's talking about to give sensible insight and make educated predictions. Even the best predictions can be wrong though. Videogames are going through a lot of change and unexpected things happen - who would've thought the Wii would've outsold it's competitors for instance. With Xbone maybe he thought, like all of us likewise had hoped, that Microsoft wouldn't have done something completely insane.
 

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Alfador_VII said:
Ah Pachter again. I wouldn't trust him to predict the sun was going to come up tomorrow.

Seriously, why do people keep listening to (and paying) him? He's so rarely even close to right.
Agreed. For the past, what, 5 years now, he's predicted that Nintendo will fail horribly with the Wii, 3DS, WiiU and eventually go under. The Wii sold the most consoles this generation, the 3DS has not only picked up speed, but it basically printing money for Nintendo and the WiiU is doing... better, I guess.
 

The White Hunter

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Gatx said:
SkarKrow said:
Didn't he also rag on the Wii and 3DS? He also said the next xbox wouldn't require an internet connection or have odd used game DRM going on or require kinect all the time.

He's been oddly quiet on the Xbox One front.

I WONDER WHY. HMMMMM.
I know he's wrong a lot and has his own bias towards consoles, BUT I like to think that he's an experienced businessman and knows enough about what he's talking about to give sensible insight and make educated predictions. Even the best predictions can be wrong though. Videogames are going through a lot of change and unexpected things happen - who would've thought the Wii would've outsold it's competitors for instance. With Xbone maybe he thought, like all of us likewise had hoped, that Microsoft wouldn't have done something completely insane.
Sorry, don't get me wrong I understand exactly what you're saying, really, I understand 100%. My issue with Pachter in this instance is that he hasn't adressed it in the slightest and in fact seems to have avoided the Xbox One entirely and that disappoints me.

I watch his gametrailers show and honestly I do frequently agree with him, he does offer some interesting insight and good thought processes even if he's wrong. My issue here is that he's not addressed the topic.

Hell I do value his opinion, he's often wrong but as he said recently, the less evidence there is the easier his job is, as a former economics student I can understand his approach and he's very much focused on the business side. It just upsets me that he hasn't confronted the issues here. I'd honestly love to hear his thoughts on the Xbox One thus far.

I'm likely to grab a PS4 but not Xbox One, unless they've grabbed true exclusives that steal my attention I'm not interested. I love Sony's IP's (Killzone, Infamous, etc) and I already have a Wii U just for the first party stuff, the sad fact for me is that Xbox's first party stuff just does not appeal to me, Halo doesn't justify a console purchase to me, particularly since I feel it should be on Windows PC's too.
 

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hey i wanna throw my wild speculations into this thread ps4 debuts at around 500 bucks US, Xbox on the other hand is about 100 dollars more expensive. both will see a price drop by next summer. so says me some random guy on the internet as qualified as anyone else to make these assumptions as anyone else.
 

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kailus13 said:
Silvianoshei said:
MSO stands for Multiple-System Operator. It refers to companies that offer TV + internet + phone services for multiple areas.

EDIT: Wiki page for reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-system_operator
I see. Thank you for that. Here in England only 2 companies do cable. I don't think anyone would be interested in having Microsoft involved with their phone.
No problem. I don't think Pachter is talking about the phone service either, but rather Microsoft enticing MSOs to integrate Xbones into their service packages, allowing users who own one and sign a multi-year contract to use the Xbone as a cable box instead of needing a separate device. A good plan...assuming anyone buys one to begin with. That's the real problem with their idea: there is a requisite level of market penetration (which is approximately 100-150% less sexy than it sounds) that they will need before cable companies would consider investing in the tech that would give their customers that option. So instead of it functioning as a form of advertising for the Xbone, it'll instead have to be something that's used later to drive already high sales of the platform...which at this point is looking unlikely.
 

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Agente L said:
Why is pachter still relevant again?

Cause I can't think of a single reason we still pay attention to whatever he says.
Probably because by now we all dislike the man so much that we just click the link, and then click ahead to the forums to remind people how stupid he is, thus bringing The Escapist a lot of delicious ad revenue as it makes for two to three hits per user. Quite clever really. Also a bit Kotaku.
 

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Zackmeister said:
"The 'always connected' requirement for the Xbox One likely means that a broadband connection will be required, suggesting to us that ISPs may have an incentive to offer a subsidy as well."

The 'always connected' requirement needs a connection, does it? Better alert the town crier!
Make sure you mention that it's a broadband connection.
 

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I can't begin to fathom how much either system will debut at, but those number might not be too far off. Still there's something we should consider; look at how much people are paying for iPads and smart phones. Tablets going for $500+. I'm not surprised if a console follows that scheme. None the less the price will pay an even further part in the systems being purchased for alot of people more than it's functions. Games are a factor, true. But if it's more expensive the games might not be enough to lure people to one side or the other. Under $500 is possible, and under $400 would be manageable for some if not ideal. If the games are going to go up in turn, I for one would like to see a more affordable system. So many factors. So yes, I don't think he's completely right, but at the same time completely wrong. I'm no analyst, just seems like simple logic.
 

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ron1n said:
Guaranteed to both sell for $700.00 or more in Aus -_-
Meh, just buy a UK console. Games are region free for PS3 and likely PS4, and UK is same region for DVDs and Blurays.