Microsoft Bought Tales of Vesperia's 360 Exclusivity
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Well, we (360 users) also paid the price for Microsoft's paid-exclusivity. We got what pretty much amounts to a beta test for the Japanese PS3 version. Then again, that's something I'm used to: I also bought the Gamecube version of Tales of Symphonia. Without much exception, Tales has been a Playstation series. As far as the console titles go, every Tales games that has come out on something other than a Playstation has had an enhanced port for a Playstation later down the line.
The ideal situation for a Tales fan is to be a Sony owner living in Japan and that has everything to do with Namco Bandai. Vesperia's US 360 exclusivity may be the joint fault of Microsoft and Namco Bandai, but if that hadn't happened, the PS3 would still have gotten the enhanced port. I think that's the real issue here: that Namco releases unfinished Tales games for consoles and then releases the finished product for a Playstation...
If Microsoft should have bought anything from Namco, it should have been a 360 version of Tales of Xillia.
The ideal situation for a Tales fan is to be a Sony owner living in Japan and that has everything to do with Namco Bandai. Vesperia's US 360 exclusivity may be the joint fault of Microsoft and Namco Bandai, but if that hadn't happened, the PS3 would still have gotten the enhanced port. I think that's the real issue here: that Namco releases unfinished Tales games for consoles and then releases the finished product for a Playstation...
If Microsoft should have bought anything from Namco, it should have been a 360 version of Tales of Xillia.
This just about sums up my views. After hearing they had stripped main characters out of the 360 version then released the real (full) version on the PS3 in Japan, I kinda got pissed. Then again, I'm interested in learning Japanese anyway and the PS3 is region-free, so... I could still play it, but all my friends who have no interest in learning Japanese can't play it. Quite a number of whom want to. I do blame both Microsoft for being such a pushy company and making Namco rush the game (and strip several characters out in the process), and Namco for agreeing when the JRPG crowd is much more likely to want a copy on the PS3, not the 360.Troublesome Lagomorph said:
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Couldn't. You couldn't care less. I'm sorry to make this point at all, it just pisses me the fuck off when people get this wrong.Arehexes said:
I hope whoever first decided to use "M$" suffers an incredibly agonising and undignified death if they aren't dead already.
Business is business, I don't see how it warrants more than a shrug, unless you are one of the overly aggressive fuckwit types that use their prefered console/company as a battle standard for their e-peen wanking contests.
Business is business, I don't see how it warrants more than a shrug, unless you are one of the overly aggressive fuckwit types that use their prefered console/company as a battle standard for their e-peen wanking contests.
Yay another company takes a bribe from Microsoft to absolutely ignore their customers.
Look. I'm not going to rag on Microsoft. I'm not their customer in the console industry. However, I -am- a Namco customer. Or a Rock Star customer. Or a Bethesda customer.
Let's get this straight... Tales of Vesperia isn't an exclusive game if it's got a PS3 version in Japan. What's happening is Microsoft paying Namco to outright ignore its Playstation customers. That'd be like if SOny paied Bioware to only release DLC for the PS3 version. It's an act where the company is accepting a kickback from one console manufacturer to screw over the customers of another console manufacturer.
It is, in fact, saying 'Your business is not welcome' to loyal customers. This is not hyperbole--this is exactly what they are saying.
When Rockstar released DLC exclusively for XBOX and held on to PS3 versions of the DLC for months, that was Rockstar saying 'Your business is not welcome' to paying customers.
When Bethesda released DLC exclusively for XBOX for Fallout 3, and held on to it, that was them saying 'Your business is not welcome' to their customers.
Screw game companies that take kickbacks at the expense of their customers. My 60 dollars is just as good as the other guy's 60 dollars. There's no technological reason why I cannot get the same service for the same money. There is no excuse.
They are literally communicating to their customers that they value kickbacks and bribes over their customers' business.
That's not just insulting, it's corrupt and immoral. We should not stand for it.
Look. I'm not going to rag on Microsoft. I'm not their customer in the console industry. However, I -am- a Namco customer. Or a Rock Star customer. Or a Bethesda customer.
Let's get this straight... Tales of Vesperia isn't an exclusive game if it's got a PS3 version in Japan. What's happening is Microsoft paying Namco to outright ignore its Playstation customers. That'd be like if SOny paied Bioware to only release DLC for the PS3 version. It's an act where the company is accepting a kickback from one console manufacturer to screw over the customers of another console manufacturer.
It is, in fact, saying 'Your business is not welcome' to loyal customers. This is not hyperbole--this is exactly what they are saying.
When Rockstar released DLC exclusively for XBOX and held on to PS3 versions of the DLC for months, that was Rockstar saying 'Your business is not welcome' to paying customers.
When Bethesda released DLC exclusively for XBOX for Fallout 3, and held on to it, that was them saying 'Your business is not welcome' to their customers.
Screw game companies that take kickbacks at the expense of their customers. My 60 dollars is just as good as the other guy's 60 dollars. There's no technological reason why I cannot get the same service for the same money. There is no excuse.
They are literally communicating to their customers that they value kickbacks and bribes over their customers' business.
That's not just insulting, it's corrupt and immoral. We should not stand for it.
Next time Namco cries about having no sales in America with their Tales series I doubt people will care. They go this far in alienating their fan base and force an inferior product here in the US and who will blame the average US JRPG fan from not giving a crap.
I really wanted to play this game too, oh well I guess I'll stick with NISA, Atlus, AKSYS, Natsume, and XSeed since they actually release their good games in the states.
Kudos to Microsoft too, they hurt Sony and managed to get Sony fans to dislike Namco, making future games even harder for Namco to sell on the PS3.
I really wanted to play this game too, oh well I guess I'll stick with NISA, Atlus, AKSYS, Natsume, and XSeed since they actually release their good games in the states.
Kudos to Microsoft too, they hurt Sony and managed to get Sony fans to dislike Namco, making future games even harder for Namco to sell on the PS3.
There was the updated PS3 version released in Japan. If you don't mind it being in Japanese, there is that.
Really not liking Microsoft, though. How do you go 'Oh, nobody cares about this game. SO OBVIOUSLY WE MUST OWN IT.'
Even though Tales of Vesperia is definitely one of the best JRPGs ever made. So sad.
Really not liking Microsoft, though. How do you go 'Oh, nobody cares about this game. SO OBVIOUSLY WE MUST OWN IT.'
Even though Tales of Vesperia is definitely one of the best JRPGs ever made. So sad.
Personally, I count this as one of, if not THE most favorite of all my games. I found it good from start to finish, but I was, and still am, irked about the content in the PS3 version that's not in the 360. I don't care which console it's for, I just want the full game experience in English.
Sorry pal, you just shot yourself in the foot.gphjr14 said:
Lots of Escapists are diehard anime fans and (subsequently) are jrpg fans as well. And judging by the number of responses you've gathered, you've definitely pissed 'em off. You've got like... at least a third of the Escapist community talkin' smack 'bout choo.
I agree with you (I really don't care much for the Tales series... all the characters in the games I played were all really, really generic or stereotypical), but you're lacking some tact there.
The sad thing is that there's a (relatively) easy way to get around this if Namdai wants to release Vesperia PS3 here. Didn't Microsoft patent a new disc that holds more than a blu ray?
Its funny because I used to get that upset in the 7th grade when people confused DBZ and Pokemon. Over 10 years later I just can't find the time to really care.Cheery Lunatic said:Sorry pal, you just shot yourself in the foot.gphjr14 said:
Lots of Escapists are diehard anime fans and (subsequently) are jrpg fans as well. And judging by the number of responses you've gathered, you've definitely pissed 'em off. You've got like... at least a third of the Escapist community talkin' smack 'bout choo.
I agree with you (I really don't care much for the Tales series... all the characters in the games I played were all really, really generic or stereotypical), but you're lacking some tact there.
Yeah....
Thats kind of annoying
I wouldnt play the game
but its annoying that you can wave your moneypeen to get games for you only
Thats kind of annoying
I wouldnt play the game
but its annoying that you can wave your moneypeen to get games for you only
False equivalence is false, and it's a common Redmond export. Thanks for catching that, even if you didn't drive the stake in as far as I'd have recommended.vansau said: