Microsoft Exec: Offline Gamers Should Stick With Xbox 360

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Something Amyss

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J Tyran said:
Why not? M$ are probably past the point where they profit on the hardware now, the Xbone will cost them money for every sale. M$ will still get Xbox Live fees and licencing fees for every game sold, the 360 will remain profitable for a while yet so why not encourage people to buy one?
Really? You're going to do the "M$" thing?

"Why not?" Is easily answered. "Because they're trying to successfully garner support for a new generation of hardware."

Seriously, "screw you, look somewhere else" is a bad business model.
 

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Gabe Yaden said:
No absolutely not, at least in this case. This attitude to other gamers is offensive and disgusting. They enjoy their games I enjoy mine there is absolutely no reason for this other then I don't like it and it involves my hobby. Dudebros ruining my gaming is the same attitude as female gamers ruin my hobby, people enjoying their facebook games ruin my triple A games, and ultimately devolves into, group X is there for lesser to me arbitrarily therefore I shall assert my superiority.
You're right. People enjoying other types of games than me isn't a problem. But publishers sewing those game styles together in an attempt to wring money out of those people is.

Captcha: pester power

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CrystalShadow

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RicoADF said:
Oi, we actually do have good high speed connection (here in Australia), atleast some of us..... The NBN will help abit too, but regardless the XBone isn't even for those with perfect connection since once its servers are off so is your system :-/
Yes, well, given that I know a lot of people in Australia, I'd have to question that idea somewhat...

A while back I recall being on skype with someone in Brisbane who was kind of bragging about his 4 megabit connection as if it was some kind of big deal...

Meanwhile, here in England (which has a reputation for something like the worst internet provision in Europe or something... XD), I had a 10 megabit connection which basically amounted to the cheapest possible internet access I could get...
(Meanwhile, that same connection, at basically the same price, has since been upgraded to 20 megabits...)

And my experiences with everyone else I've been in contact with in Australia seem to back that up. (As does the comparatively low video quality of dedicated Australian sites.)

For that matter, the constant mention of monthly download limits... Sound unfortunate.
I'm so used to 'unlimited' internet these days (it's in quotes because they might slow down the connection if you use a lot of data during peak hours), but it still makes me wonder what the state of internet access is like in Australia...

And that's not even considering what happens if you're not in a major city...

(Just one of those things to worry about, given I may end up moving back to Australia sooner or later...)
 

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BloodRed Pixel said:
how much stupid-assery can there be in one single person?

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great!
That's the problem with Microsoft at the moment. They got a "monopoly" on consumer/small business computing with their OS and software and the CEO in charge of this is now also in charge of the Xbox Division. Their modus operandi has always been "let the buyer complain all they want, not like they got an alternative" for a long, long time. The console market really isn't like that.

To top things off, Sony just carved them up on stage and Microsoft is basically completely unaware/doesn't even care. They really think they will still sell their console.
 

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The Plunk said:
Now I see why Adam Orth was fired. Not because he caused bad PR for Microsoft, but because he spoiled the surprise.
If we were in a bar i would have bought you a drink for that!

Microsoft..... jesus.... buy some gaffa tape. Please.
 

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What a plonker. Seriously, that's about as rude a dismissal of valid consumer concerns I've ever heard, and from a high ranking executive at that! Kotick at his worst wasn't quite this rude to the very people he wanted to sell to. I have 24/7 access to the internet, I just don't want to be told I HAVE to connect to use a damned console. I have a PC for my online stuff, I don't need to be told how I must use a piece of hardware I purchased outright. It's not even a license, the hardware is owned outright.

I just wonder, does this mean they won't repeat what they did when the 360 was produced, and discontinue production of the older machine? I'm still pissed off that I can't replace my Xbox to play some of my old games I loved, unlike Sony who kept the older consoles in production for years after the next gen was made.
 

RicoADF

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CrystalShadow said:
RicoADF said:
Oi, we actually do have good high speed connection (here in Australia), atleast some of us..... The NBN will help abit too, but regardless the XBone isn't even for those with perfect connection since once its servers are off so is your system :-/
Yes, well, given that I know a lot of people in Australia, I'd have to question that idea somewhat...

A while back I recall being on skype with someone in Brisbane who was kind of bragging about his 4 megabit connection as if it was some kind of big deal...

Meanwhile, here in England (which has a reputation for something like the worst internet provision in Europe or something... XD), I had a 10 megabit connection which basically amounted to the cheapest possible internet access I could get...
(Meanwhile, that same connection, at basically the same price, has since been upgraded to 20 megabits...)

And my experiences with everyone else I've been in contact with in Australia seem to back that up. (As does the comparatively low video quality of dedicated Australian sites.)

For that matter, the constant mention of monthly download limits... Sound unfortunate.
I'm so used to 'unlimited' internet these days (it's in quotes because they might slow down the connection if you use a lot of data during peak hours), but it still makes me wonder what the state of internet access is like in Australia...

And that's not even considering what happens if you're not in a major city...

(Just one of those things to worry about, given I may end up moving back to Australia sooner or later...)
I have 100mb/s internet, before this I had 80mb/s, then before that 30 etc etc, haven't had anything near 4mb/s for the last 5 years or so, then again i do live in Sydney which while not the capital, is the financial and business capital of the country.
I also have 500GB limit which I never even get near, it's basically unlimited to me :p
 

Sansha

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"Offline Gamers Should Stick With Xbox 360"

Or PS4.

I wasn't going to bother with this console generation, but I'm considering getting a PS4 purely out of spite.
 

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Gabe Yaden said:
DugMachine said:
The sad thing is the console will still sell relatively well when ignorant dudebros are going to dish out $500 so they can play the next COD and BF4.
Like it or not those so-called dude bros are bringing in piles of money to support your hobby, so perhaps acting like a jackass to them isn't the best course of action.
Of course it's the best course of action, not telling an idiot that he is an idiot because he has money is wrong. Do you know why it is wrong? Because idiots spend money on idiotic pastimes. It matters not if they bring money to the industry if they are forcing it to consistently lower the bar for gameplay, story and innovation. Games that are made for them are not the games I will buy, so I have no inclination not to tell someone of his idiocy just because he has money. This used car salesman mentallity is what's wrong with so many publishers nowadays and what killed many decent franchises. And you are one of the propagators of this intellectual holocaust.

If money would be everything, than fast and furious 6 would be an absolute masterpiece of cinematography, and skrillex would destroy classical music, jazz or hard rock.
 

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Jesus, Don! You really want to commit career suicide, don't ya?!

OK, douche-bag! You wanna be fired from something? How about this...


God, Microsoft might as well hose down the entire company with kerosine and light a road flare. Make sure you have Don and the rest of the business casual dip-shits stay indoors to see if the fire consumes everything.

Someone call Bill Gates and tell him to come back and save his company before it drives off the cliff completely.
 

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Dexter111 said:
I think I've even seen that bit but I somehow must have missed that part... wow:

He's basically telling people not to get their product. xD

And people who don't have always working Internet are apparently either on a Nuclear Submarine (They're not supporting the troops! Isn't that like bad in the US? :p) or imagining it.
Phht... To my knowledge, neither Nintendo, Microsoft, nor Sony could give two shits about the troops in the current generation. Try registering your console's online account to an APO address. Can't do it(well at least this was at one point true for all three. don't know for sure now since I only own a PS3). Why should they change things in the next?
 

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Scars Unseen said:
Phht... To my knowledge, neither Nintendo, Microsoft, nor Sony could give two shits about the troops in the current generation. Try registering your console's online account to an APO address. Can't do it(well at least this was at one point true for all three. don't know for sure now since I only own a PS3). Why should they change things in the next?
They can still play offline with current gen consoles as well as the Wii U and PS4 though.
 

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So, this is how the Xbox perishes: with thunderous applause and a standing ovation.



Good riddance.
 

Little Duck

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I'm calling it now. By E3 next year or during E3 they will announce they are binning the stupid drm.
 

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Little Duck said:
I'm calling it now. By E3 next year or during E3 they will announce they are binning the stupid drm.
Nah, considering the opinion of a good portion of their shareholder, they most likely the sell the division then revise the product. Quite a few investor of MS were already pushing for them to sell the division, even when xbox 360 was at it height, has the xbox require too much investment for the profit it bring in, thus reducing the general value of MS.

And with a failing xbox division you can be sure many more will now start join that side and will basically leave Bill Gates having to decide if it listen to those shareholder, go hand off on the subject or hold fort against them like he already does for Ballmer.