Ok to the first comment, what?Calibretto said:Was that the motto of the hitler youth?WorldCritic said:
I voted Majong because dragon age 2 sucked
And to the second, ok, we all have our opinions.
Minecraft is better than any game/series ever?
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And to the second, ok, we all have our opinions.
Then it has failed as a game. A game is meant to be enjoyed to all audiences and is able to be picked up and played by everyone. If the game requires creativity above all else to enjoy, then not all audiences are capable of enjoying it.Void(null) said:
Why do you think every third person game has a cover system? Gears popularized it; it changed the way third person shooters play and introduced a standardized control system for the genre.number2301 said:
Splinter Cell, Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption, GTA IV. All Massive franchises correct? All [at least their latest iterations] heavily influenced by Gears of War, from the fact they all feature an identical cover system to the way the gunplay feels and the pace the narrative moves at.
So was Cave Story - that doesn't mean its had a massive impact on the industry...
Really, has there suddenly been a swarm of games preaching that message? No? Guess there's no impact there then - hell Little Big Planet had more impact in that area in forcing Microsoft and EA to make their own versions of the game...
Very few games have followed suit, and they're all indie games.
Something everyone, including Notch, knows was down to massive amounts of luck - it's something that'll never be repeated.
We'll see - nothing has happened so far, in fact I'd argue Amnesia : TDD is more likely to have a more prolonged impact; MineCraft isn't going to keep making money - hell, I'd claim most of those who would have bought it have already done so.
I don't think you understand the words "impact the industry" - because that isn't it. Nothing has come, or changed, thanks to MineCraft's success; yes it bucked the trend - but that's not the same as having an impact on the whole industry the way Gears of War has.
I understand why Valve lost, though I didn't agree with it. I don't want Minecraft to win, but there isn't anything that has stopped it so far... that depresses me a little bit.
What people are saying is that this one creativity toy is better than any of the series that people re-make in it. Just think about the number of Mario levels, old school sprite graphics, game remakes and other homages that make up Minecraft. Now consider that were you to vote Mojang, you'd be saying that you choose a sandbox over the entirety of your lives as gamers. More than Mario, Sonic, Link, Kirby, Marcus Fenix, Solid Snake, Alucard, Pac-man, Kratos, Hawke, Bayonetta or any other character from any game series you can name.... combined!
It came out in 2009, and it has already received plenty of more appropriate awards and accolades. Give this one to Bioware. They've deserved to win and only gotten to second place... what, 3 years in a row?
What people are saying is that this one creativity toy is better than any of the series that people re-make in it. Just think about the number of Mario levels, old school sprite graphics, game remakes and other homages that make up Minecraft. Now consider that were you to vote Mojang, you'd be saying that you choose a sandbox over the entirety of your lives as gamers. More than Mario, Sonic, Link, Kirby, Marcus Fenix, Solid Snake, Alucard, Pac-man, Kratos, Hawke, Bayonetta or any other character from any game series you can name.... combined!
It came out in 2009, and it has already received plenty of more appropriate awards and accolades. Give this one to Bioware. They've deserved to win and only gotten to second place... what, 3 years in a row?
It seems half of the anti-Mojang (not saying you don't like Mojang bytheway) say it hasn't been released and the other say it's been released but is taking forever to be made playable. Also, would they really be laughed out? 'cause frankly, if you're going by bugginess, Bethesda haven't been "completing" games for quite some time.Trolldor said:
I got quoted twice, but this was the closest so I'm quoting you.D_987 said:
The argument I'm making is that Minecraft has impacted the industry, even if we haven't seen the results of that yet. When Nintendo blew everyone away with motion controls people followed suit, when Zynga started making a fortune with things that can barely be called games people followed suit.
Something which comes along like Minecraft did will make people think. That is impact.
As for one game which Minecraft has affected, how about the XBLA Minecraft clone?
1) They popularized Cover systems and so far, they're one of the few games to do it right.number2301 said:
2) Impact? It hasn't made an impact. Nothing it has done has been new or different. Sandbox gaming? Been done. Fighting creatures? Been done. Enviorment for you to completely control? Been done and the game that did it came out roughly half a decade ago.
3) It only makes a shit ton of money because he's doing what every major triple A dev team has been doing for the last 5-10 years. He's promising DLC. What happens when Halo gets some new maps? It gets a jump in player activity. What happens when Valve airs a new TF2 Update video? The game's sales go through the roof. Notch is just promising new things for those who buy the game. It keeps people playing and it entices other users. Once, making money for releasing post-launch content is not innovative.
4) We will not see Indie gamers get more support, we'll be seeing indie gamers who want to make Minecraft clones get more support.
So now you're changing your arguments meaning because it suits you? That's not what you said at all - you stated:number2301 said:
You're now claiming that said statement meant an unseen impact? I'm not buying it.
True, but that's not what you stated, nor was it ever implied within your statement; and that's not the sort of statement you can claim is true to any degree - there've been many games that have introduced concepts that you'd expect would have caught on but never did.
No, it's not; impact is change - the way the industry changes due to influence from a game. As it stands MineCraft has had very little influence on anything.
I'm not even going to dignify that statement by mocking it...
Everyone has one.
I like Minecraft, but it's not my favorite game of all time. It's popular, so of course everyone's voting for it.
You sure about that? Just look at the torrent of hate that Dragon Age 2 has received. Not to mention shady behaviour. That debacle involving an employer posting a user review on his work without being entirely honest about it, and the harsh matter-of-fact way the moderator spoke to the guy who couldn't play his game because he was banned. I know that was EA's cock-up, but that doesn't give moderators the right to talk to members of the community like shit.PrototypeC said:
The problem here is that you seem to think all those mascots and games mesh into one 'being' that is up against minecraft. The fans of those titles generally don't and are communities entirely independent of each other. Someone may like Mario games but loathe Metal Gear Solid. Someone may like Castlevania but not see the point of Pac-Man. Minecraft, as a whole, is one entity unto itself and the community is large indeed. It;s not a competition of whether you like Link more than Nathan Drake; it's about the singular being that is Minecraft. It's a giant taking on many smaller giants, and as such, it's coming out on top. Yes, those are high profile franchises and mascots, but they're not beloved by everybody, only by very select groups of fans who often clash with each other.PrototypeC said:
I don't think Valve should have won March Mayhem, nor get as far as it should, to be honest. Bar "Portal 2", they seem to have abandoned game development in favour of game distribution - it shouldn't win just because it owns the highly successful Steam. Sure the Left 4 Dead games were great, but number 2 came out far too fast to much criticism and they haven't released anything since. Let's not even get started on how abandoning Half-Life 2 (or 3?) left a sour taste in many people's mouths. I know they've made a statement saying it's coming, but that's not the point. It's too late now.
I think a lot of people, especially the most vocal ones, aren't realising that most people are putting their votes almost entirely on what happened in gaming this year. The people who are voting primarily according to what's happened in gaming in the past are finding that they're not in the majority. They use false assumptions (like comparing Half Life and Minecraft, two games released in very separate eras in gaming) and conclude that everyone else is wrong.
Human nature kicks in, and a lot of them start complaining about it.
If you are complaining, take this advice; Try to be more open-minded, and consider the logic of other people that differs from your own.
What has Valve done this past year? Not much. What has Nintendo done this past year? Pokemon Black/White, but not to such a big acclaim as Minecraft. What has Namco Bandai done? Not much. What has Mojang done? Minecraft, a game that's reached new heights for an indie game and widely acclaimed as one of the freshest gaming experience for years. All starting off from one guy. It's defined this year in gaming.
That's why I voted Mojang AB.
Human nature kicks in, and a lot of them start complaining about it.
If you are complaining, take this advice; Try to be more open-minded, and consider the logic of other people that differs from your own.
What has Valve done this past year? Not much. What has Nintendo done this past year? Pokemon Black/White, but not to such a big acclaim as Minecraft. What has Namco Bandai done? Not much. What has Mojang done? Minecraft, a game that's reached new heights for an indie game and widely acclaimed as one of the freshest gaming experience for years. All starting off from one guy. It's defined this year in gaming.
That's why I voted Mojang AB.
I voted for Mojang because MC gave me the most fun for my money since i bought it, and that was way back when i had a chance to try survival for free because "NotchCan'tCode" (tm) a stable auth system.
And thanks to MC i found a bunch of friends in Scottland, i am from Germany, i visited earlier this year. Cant say that about any other game.
Having said that, MC isn't the best game in the universe. For me that list still includes classic Doom and a bunch of other DOS and Win9x based games. But MC has something other "modern" games lack that i cant fully grasp. Maybe its that building element, that you can do whatever you want and that it gives the biggest thing in multi-player i always wanted: Big emphasis on user content.
Some people talked about DF, its a fine game and i played it alot, but the newest version is unplayable on my machine (AMD X2-5000 running Ubuntu as the main OS). So until i get a vastly more powerful machine or Toady heavily optimizes it, its dead for me. It isnt fun or even "fun" when the FPS drop to 5 or less with just 30 or so dworfs running around. :/
And thanks to MC i found a bunch of friends in Scottland, i am from Germany, i visited earlier this year. Cant say that about any other game.
Having said that, MC isn't the best game in the universe. For me that list still includes classic Doom and a bunch of other DOS and Win9x based games. But MC has something other "modern" games lack that i cant fully grasp. Maybe its that building element, that you can do whatever you want and that it gives the biggest thing in multi-player i always wanted: Big emphasis on user content.
Some people talked about DF, its a fine game and i played it alot, but the newest version is unplayable on my machine (AMD X2-5000 running Ubuntu as the main OS). So until i get a vastly more powerful machine or Toady heavily optimizes it, its dead for me. It isnt fun or even "fun" when the FPS drop to 5 or less with just 30 or so dworfs running around. :/
Nonsense. No where must everyone be able to enjoy everything. Thats the exact sort of thinking that has brought us World of Warcraft and Farmville.maddawg IAJI said:
Interactive entertainment is not "Everyone gets a trophy" day.
I dislike checkers but love chess. Checkers has not failed as a game.
I dislike poker but enjoy rummy. Poker has not failed as a game.
I don't see the point in Railway or flight sims. Some people absolutely love them!
I love space sims, some people can't see the point in them.
I know people who don't like platform games because they lack the co-ordination but love RTS games where they can pause. That does not mean Platform games have to be dumbed down so that the bar of entry is available to everyone, nor does that mean every RTS must have the ability to give orders while paused.
Despite what your mother tells you, you are not actually special and the world does not revolve around you. Everyone is allowed to enjoy (or not) whatever pleases them and no one has to do anything specifically for you and you alone.
