MineCrafts been DDOS'd by some guys who want more updates.

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FaceFaceFace

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This is why the internet sucks. Stuff like this is illegal, but its nearly impossible to catch anonymous internet terrorists.
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
THIS is why i call Anonymous a bunch of internet terrorists, when they see something they don't like, they DEMAND their way and destroy whatever is in their way to getting it.

it's like a 5 year old with billions of dollars and access to a personal army... that's what Anonymous is...

and these people are acting JUST like Anonymous, even if they claim to not be apart of them
actually they said it wasn't anonymous, and lets be honest, they aren't terrorists, they only care about pirate related matters and things which impede freedoms such as censorship
 

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well... because he's using Java I can't use it without the latest update... somethign I can't get because of my fucking internet connection behind a university bullshit wall.

Fuck you notch.

Pro-tip: DOn't rely on another company's software to make yours even remotely workable. You already have to rely on Apple and Microsoft to make operating systems that aren't shit... going with java just adds another layer of thigns that can go wrong.
 

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Thespian said:
ChaoticLegion said:
Azaraxzealot said:
THIS is why i call Anonymous a bunch of internet terrorists, when they see something they don't like, they DEMAND their way and destroy whatever is in their way to getting it.

it's like a 5 year old with billions of dollars and access to a personal army... that's what Anonymous is...

and these people are acting JUST like Anonymous, even if they claim to not be apart of them
They are self-identifying DDOSers, how can you even start talking about Anonymous here? That becomes a mute point as soon as they stepped forward.
You had a good point until you said "mute point"

Dude, seriously. Whether or not the DDoSers can speak is totally a moot point.
lol xD My apologies, we all make typing errors from time to time. I have corrected it for yourself sir =P
 

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Old Trailmix said:
I can see this happening, over a week millions of people try and fail every day to buy the game. Finally the servers are back on track and Notch cashes out with millions.

And it's working fine right now.
yep. just checked and im not getting ANY server errors on good ol Firefox.... to bad i have college now X(
 

vallorn

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Plurralbles said:
well... because he's using Java I can't use it without the latest update... somethign I can't get because of my fucking internet connection behind a university bullshit wall.

Fuck you notch.

Pro-tip: DOn't rely on another company's software to make yours even remotely workable. You already have to rely on Apple and Microsoft to make operating systems that aren't shit... going with java just adds another layer of thigns that can go wrong.
dont blame notch. blame your Uni's Bullshit filter.
 

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LightOfDarkness said:
Actually, Mojang specifications now consists of 6 people but only 4 of them actually help develop the game.

It seems counter-productive, DDoS'ing the website of what you want updates for. Now Notch has even more to do, on top of keeping the updates coming, finding an office, more coders, graphics designers, reading the forum for bright ideas (100,000+ people keep suggesting stuff, there's gotta be a golden egg in a sea of bad, unbalanced ideas) he has to fix his website (or speak and work with the hoster to fix it)
Thanks for correcting me, but my point in my actual post was: These guys didn't DDoS minecraft because of updates, or payment, or Dissatisfaction, or anything like that. those are just excuses. they did it, because they wanted to and because they could! i mean, a lot of people are angry over a lot of Retail games that come out, but has Modern Warfare 2 or Halo ever been DDoS'ed. No because they are big companies that know how to protect themselves form these Low-lives. Notch doesn't have the means to protect himself like that. and these ass-holes targeted him because they wanted to Fuck something up for their amusement and Minecraft was just, unfortunately, an easy target!
 

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lacktheknack said:
No, you can't. Not in this context. They've been getting a steady drip-feed of updates for over a year, the well has gone dry for a few weeks while he preps a massive update on Halloween that adds fish, new realms, new blocks, new enemies, new craftables... AND HE ANNOUNCED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO.

The trolls cannot redeem themselves now.
Of course they have. Those "updates" are just progress in development. It's in the interess of the developer to progress from an alpha stage to a beta stage and eventually a full release.

Also, massive update? I wouldn't call it just that. Whilst it is a significant update that basically adds a new world and new monsters(with the new world being just a re-skin of the original) I wouldn't exactly call it "massive". Still, ike I've said before, don't make promises you can't keep.

vallorn said:
i can be bothered to look up all the updates but they've gotten a lot of stuff.
yes but these people bought it during alpha knowing that it needed updates then when they dont get them as fast as they want the throw a temper tantrum and piss everyone else off.
well that's their choice. they cant complain if they didn't look around for extras.
How many times do I have to repeat this? If you make a promise then don't be surprised when people get pissed for not living up to the promised expectations. And of course they can complain. They payed 10 bucks for alpha access with the promise of updates. They didn't get those updates apparently. The reasoning behind their attack is sound. If the devs knew they couldn't keep their promises then they shouldn't have made it in the first place and instead simply state that until a new update rolls around, there are always mods to consider. They did not do that.
 

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This is some really backwards retarded shit. They want more Minecraft, so they fucking shut down Minecraft.
 

vallorn

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AndyFromMonday said:
lacktheknack said:
No, you can't. Not in this context. They've been getting a steady drip-feed of updates for over a year, the well has gone dry for a few weeks while he preps a massive update on Halloween that adds fish, new realms, new blocks, new enemies, new craftables... AND HE ANNOUNCED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO.

The trolls cannot redeem themselves now.
Of course they have. Those "updates" are just progress in development. It's in the interess of the developer to progress from an alpha stage to a beta stage and eventually a full release.

Also, massive update? I wouldn't call it just that. Whilst it is a significant update that basically adds a new world and new monsters(with the new world being just a re-skin of the original) I wouldn't exactly call it "massive". Still, ike I've said before, don't make promises you can't keep.

lacktheknack said:
i can be bothered to look up all the updates but they've gotten a lot of stuff.
yes but these people bought it during alpha knowing that it needed updates then when they dont get them as fast as they want the throw a temper tantrum and piss everyone else off.
well that's their choice. they cant complain if they didn't look around for extras.
How many times do I have to repeat this? If you make a promise then don't be surprised when people get pissed for not living up to the promised expectations. And of course they can complain. They payed 10 bucks for alpha access with the promise of updates. They didn't get those updates apparently. The reasoning behind their attack is sound. If the devs knew they couldn't keep their promises then they shouldn't have made it in the first place and instead simply state that until a new update rolls around, there are always mods to consider. They did not do that.
ok. first you misquoted. that was me who said the stuff in the second box.
second. they got everything they were promised. notch drew up a list of updates and has met every single target.
third.they did get those updates but they wanted "moar fr33 stuph!!" so decided to blackmail Notch for stuff.
fourth.your sounding like you support these guys. your reasoning is false and even if it was right DDOS'ing the site would be the wrong reaction to their discomfort.
fifth. you appear to have decided that thier reasoning is sound by reading their statement rather than looking at the evidence. this is an invalid and unscientific process. much like the reasoning behind Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming.
 

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vallorn said:
ok. first you misquoted. that was me who said the stuff in the second box.
second. they got everything they were promised. notch drew up a list of updates and has met every single target.
I'd love to see that list. I mean, from what I've seen Notch made a promise he couldn't keep and that got people angry. This is completely understandable. And sorry for the misquoting thingy.


vallorn said:
they did get those updates but they wanted "moar fr33 stuph!!" so decided to blackmail Notch for stuff.
Again, from what I've seen it seems that Notch made a promise that he couldn't keep. And more free stuff? You seem to forget this game is in Alpha. All that "free stuff" is just progress in development.

vallorn said:
your sounding like you support these guys. your reasoning is false and even if it was right DDOS'ing the site would be the wrong reaction to their discomfort.
I don't support these guys. I said that the reasoning behind their attack is sound. And what reaction should they have had? Whine on the forums? That certainly always works, said he in a sarcastic voice. It's like when a president pisses off someone with power.

vallorn said:
fifth. you appear to have decided that thier reasoning is sound by reading their statement rather than looking at the evidence.
I have looked at the evidence. Promised updates that didn't come resulted in frustration which boiled up and eventually exploded into a DDOS attack.

vallorn said:
this is an invalid and unscientific process.
It's sort of hard to take you seriously when your grammar is terrible and you use terms like "unscientific". I'm sorry, that's just how you come off to me.
 

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It's amazing....

These people are so incredibly stupid. He's setting up a new company and writing a major update at the moment! How is that not enough to verify a short delay in minor updates?!
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
lacktheknack said:
i can be bothered to look up all the updates but they've gotten a lot of stuff.
yes but these people bought it during alpha knowing that it needed updates then when they dont get them as fast as they want the throw a temper tantrum and piss everyone else off.
well that's their choice. they cant complain if they didn't look around for extras.
How many times do I have to repeat this? If you make a promise then don't be surprised when people get pissed for not living up to the promised expectations. And of course they can complain. They payed 10 bucks for alpha access with the promise of updates. They didn't get those updates apparently. The reasoning behind their attack is sound. If the devs knew they couldn't keep their promises then they shouldn't have made it in the first place and instead simply state that until a new update rolls around, there are always mods to consider. They did not do that.
I didn't say that. What the hell?
 

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ChaoticLegion said:
lol xD My apologies, we all make typing errors from time to time. I have corrected it for yourself sir =P
Heh, of course, typos can't be helped. Pointing out errors is purely from a desire to be helpful... And totally not for personal amusement :p JKs all around, nonetheless
 

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What Notch should do is spend some time or so shoring up his website and making it more resilient instead of working on the game. This would have the double bonus of showing these assholes that their "strategy" is completely retarded and in fact has the opposite effect they they seemed to think it should have (for whatever reason), while also reducing the effectiveness of such attacks in the future. Win-win, except for the rest of us who have to wait longer for updates. But on the other hand, we'd have a more reliable online service in lieu of said updates, so it would work out for us as well.