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Before I begin, dammit, Miracle! I was writing up a review for this but you've beaten me to the bug jokes so now I have to go for a whole new tack. Ah well, I'm sure I can find some new way to reference the bu- *POST CORRUPTED*

...Anyway, as I was sayi- *POST CORRUPTED AGAIN* *RAGE QUIT*

OT: A very nice review as usual, Miracle. Very thorough, precise and detailing good and bad points about the game. But safe to say, I am loving it and it's very very quickly becoming my new Viva Pinata. I'm still unpatched due to my net being an App from the Ovi Store that turns my mobile phone into a wireless tether point(Or something) and it would just catch fire if I even dared to think about connecting it to LIVE.

I'm currently on my second play-through and I'm planning to look everywhere this time out so I can find all its hidden goodies as I feel I barely scratched the surface on my first time out. While I had a ton of completed quests on the Pip-Boy, I'm also fairly sure I'd only done about 1/4 of the overall quests at least. A small complaint, apart from the bugs, I have is with the super human sniper that is Boone. I haven't fired my guns in a bloody age since I recruited him. By the tome I've unholstered my weapon, Boone has dropped nearly all of the people that where going to attack me. Example, for some stupid reason I can't fathom out, I was being chased down by about 20 of the White Hand group (I'd been banned from the casino so it's not like it matters I've killed them all. ...Right?) so I went out to get my weapons back, the doorman was snuffed out by someone, got Boone back and lead him into the casino. He cut down at least 14 of the guys. I mean, it's nice to have a sniper who could shoot my eyelashes off at a distance greater then a mile but I kinda miss the hurly-burly of having to shoot people myself.

EDIT: But yet, I still keep him around. ...Eh, he allows me to focus on other things, I guess. Like figuring out where to go next.
 

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*... ... beep*

*... intoxication wearing off... ... main processor rebooting...*

*... pain anomaly detected... classification: hangover... ...*

Urrrrrggghh. Why do I never learn?

Anyway, this review actually got me interested in the game, which I believed just about impossible. It appears that the one big thing that bothered me enough about F3 so as not to play it any further than exiting the vault has been fixed in this installment: The bleak colors and scenery. I'm still ignorant of why people get so weird about these games at all because I've never played F1 and F2, but I do recognize interesting features and mechanics when I see them, and New Vegas appears to have them in spades. I suppose I'll wait another six months to play it so most of the apparently vital patchwork will have been done by the time I pick it up, but the fact that I'm willing to play any Fallout game after the (imo) craptastic greyish-brown rubblefest of F3 should make clear to you just how good a job you did with this review, my friend.

By the way: Still waiting on you to get War for Cybertron. :p
 

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Sassafrass said:
I'm currently on my second play-through and I'm planning to look everywhere this time out so I can find all its hidden goodies as I feel I barely scratched the surface on my first time out. While I had a ton of completed quests on the Pip-Boy, I'm also fairly sure I'd only done about 1/4 of the overall quests at least. A small complaint, apart from the bugs, I have is with the super human sniper that is Boone. I haven't fired my guns in a bloody age since I recruited him. By the tome I've unholstered my weapon, Boone has dropped nearly all of the people that where going to attack me. Example, for some stupid reason I can't fathom out, I was being chased down by about 20 of the White Hand group (I'd been banned from the casino so it's not like it matters I've killed them all. ...Right?) so I went out to get my weapons back, the doorman was snuffed out by someone, got Boone back and lead him into the casino. He cut down at least 14 of the guys. I mean, it's nice to have a sniper who could shoot my eyelashes off at a distance greater then a mile but I kinda miss the hurly-burly of having to shoot people myself.
I have to agree, I stopped taking Boone around with me as he was just too powerful and my screen slows down every time he gets a kill which is annoying.

By the way, a nice tip: Go to options and put the killcam to 'player view'... no more exploding Radscorpions flashing onto your screen and scaring the shit out of you! Well, that's if they did scare you, like they did me.
 

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Sonicron said:
*... ... beep*

*... intoxication wearing off... ... main processor rebooting...*

*... pain anomaly detected... classification: hangover... ...*
I was hungover today too. I only drank 3 pints... I'm getting too old for nights out :D

Sonicron said:
Anyway, this review actually got me interested in the game, which I believed just about impossible. It appears that the one big thing that bothered me enough about F3 so as not to play it any further than exiting the vault has been fixed in this installment: The bleak colors and scenery. I'm still ignorant of why people get so weird about these games at all because I've never played F1 and F2, but I do recognize interesting features and mechanics when I see them, and New Vegas appears to have them in spades. I suppose I'll wait another six months to play it so most of the apparently vital patchwork will have been done by the time I pick it up, but the fact that I'm willing to play any Fallout game after the (imo) craptastic greyish-brown rubblefest of F3 should make clear to you just how good a job you did with this review, my friend.

By the way: Still waiting on you to get War for Cybertron. :p
I'll get it eventually... I have literally been too broke and with so many great games coming out it just hasn't fit into my budget. Fancy a few games of Black Ops this week?
 

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Great.

This just reminds me that my data got completely fucked yesterday and I have to start all over again.

Now I'm sad.

360 Version, in case you were wondering.
 

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Shockolate said:
Great.

This just reminds me that my data got completely fucked yesterday and I have to start all over again.

Now I'm sad.

360 Version, in case you were wondering.
I've not had the data corrupting crash in 70+ hours of playtime, here's a few tips for your next playthrough:

Go to options, switch all 3 autosaves off. Save manually every 10-15 minutes

Avoid the 'Come Fly With Me' quest, it seems to be the most common point where peoples' files corrupt.

After each play session, copy your last save onto a USB, then remove the USB from the XBOX until you're saving onto it again

Avoid using the pre-order DLCs. Delete them and never use them.

Clear your cache regularly (I've been doing it once a day)

I hope these help you avoid having your game ruined again!
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
I'll get it eventually... I have literally been too broke and with so many great games coming out it just hasn't fit into my budget. Fancy a few games of Black Ops this week?
Nah, never really been into CoD games, and the fact that the game is only available in censored form here made me file it under "Don't give a shit about this one". (Imports don't work either - Steam will just localize the data and cut your beautiful uncut copy of the game.)

Got lots of work at the moment anyway, and on those rare occasions I do have some free time I play the Last Stand game mode of Dawn of War II.
 

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I agree with you about everything relating to Fallout 3, which is why I think I like F3 more than New Vegas- though I still love New Vegas (though it crashed on me 42 hours in and I have to start all over.)

That was a great review! In depth, and very descriptive. Awesome job.
 

MiracleOfSound

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googleit6 said:
I agree with you about everything relating to Fallout 3, which is why I think I like F3 more than New Vegas- though I still love New Vegas (though it crashed on me 42 hours in and I have to start all over.)

That was a great review! In depth, and very descriptive. Awesome job.
Thanks very much!

Also, have a look at post #47 above, a few tips I've found for avoiding the save glitch.

Let me know if it works out for ya :)
 

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Nah, never really been into CoD games, and the fact that the game is only available in censored form here made me file it under "Don't give a shit about this one". (Imports don't work either - Steam will just localize the data and cut your beautiful uncut copy of the game.)
Ah, I forgot you were in in Germany. That sucks man, I was under the impression they only censored the WW2 games over there. Funny how Germany is so forward thinking and liberal in some ways and then something like that gets put in place.
 

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I havent crashed a SIGNLE time yet.
me too granted i havent played for that long, there were some texture issues and some bodys fell through the level but nothing game breaking granted i have only played for about 10 hours

dissapointed they didn't have as many people as i expected in the casinos but still good
 

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Nice review, I'm definitely getting excited for this game! I'll wait until it's well patched though, and it'll be cheaper then so I'll win forever. :D

Unless the patch has bugs.

This is obsidian we're talking about.

Oh, and by the way, your review of Bioshock 2 I read a while back was part of the reason I decided to try it and it's FUCKING AWESOME.

So yeah, woo!
 

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Outright Villainy said:
Nice review, I'm definitely getting excited for this game! I'll wait until it's well patched though, and it'll be cheaper then so I'll win forever. :D

Unless the patch has bugs.

This is obsidian we're talking about.

Oh, and by the way, your review of Bioshock 2 I read a while back was part of the reason I decided to try it and it's FUCKING AWESOME.

So yeah, woo!
Good! I'm glad you enjoy it, I thought Bioshock 2 was very under-rated.

I can't wait for Infinite, the Sky setting will be so awesome. I hope they tighten up the shooting a bit though.
 

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You compared Fallout to Nirvana, and for that you shall DIE... I hate Nirvana. They fucking suck(ed)
 
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Good review. And about your game-ending problem... there's already a mod for that :D
But your on the 360... shame.

Anyway, I'm waiting until Christmas to get the game. I know Obsidian games, and this is a Bethesda engine. So yeah.

Personally, I found Fallout 3 to be a good game, but a horrible Fallout game. It tried to be SUPER SERIOUS!!, and in doing so basically amplified every imperfection. The story was silly, your father was an idiot, the game would never let you explain why you had to leave the vault(seriosuly, you can never tell your father that after he left, the Overseer went insane, killed Jonas, and tried to kill you). But the atmosphere and little enviornmental set-pieces were easily the best parts of the game. You know, the parts where a small story was told through the enviornment. Those were expertly done. The traps were really good to. Sounds kind of odd to praise them, but its true.

Anyway, good review, glad New Vegas is a proper Fallout game, and here's hoping by Christmas either the devs or mod community fix most of the bugs. Especially that bug that basically erases saved games.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Outright Villainy said:
Nice review, I'm definitely getting excited for this game! I'll wait until it's well patched though, and it'll be cheaper then so I'll win forever. :D

Unless the patch has bugs.

This is obsidian we're talking about.

Oh, and by the way, your review of Bioshock 2 I read a while back was part of the reason I decided to try it and it's FUCKING AWESOME.

So yeah, woo!
Good! I'm glad you enjoy it, I thought Bioshock 2 was very under-rated.

I can't wait for Infinite, the Sky setting will be so awesome. I hope they tighten up the shooting a bit though.
Well Bioshock 2 showed a vast improvement in combat over the first I thought. Thought that was more in terms of plasmid/weapons dynamics rather than how the guns actually handled. I thought that was the more important thing really, and honestly, who needs guns when you have HOT SPINNING DEATH.

God, I loved that drill...
 

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You compared Fallout to Nirvana, and for that you shall DIE... I hate Nirvana. They fucking suck(ed)
Wow.

Would it not have just been easier to say 'I don't agree with you that Nirvana are good?'

Apparently not.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Faladorian said:
You compared Fallout to Nirvana, and for that you shall DIE... I hate Nirvana. They fucking suck(ed)
Wow.

Would it not have just been easier to say 'I don't agree with you that Nirvana are good?'

Apparently not.
well it would have been easier had I not put in the extra effort to include a jaded hyperbole
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
I have to agree, I stopped taking Boone around with me as he was just too powerful and my screen slows down every time he gets a kill which is annoying.

By the way, a nice tip: Go to options and put the killcam to 'player view'... no more exploding Radscorpions flashing onto your screen and scaring the shit out of you! Well, that's if they did scare you, like they did me.
Yeah, the sudden 180 turns I was doing in Freeside due to the muggers he was massacring got annoying fast. And the amount of head-shots he gets is absurd! For me, it's about 7 out of 10 kills by him are head-shots. And my previous complaint about his sniping was given a kick in the ass today by my trip to Vault 34. Dear God, I could've used him then.

And I've done that, so any time Boone does snipe the testicles off of a Bloatfly, it doesn't give me a close up of it. Plus, I get to reload my Hunter Shotgun in sexy slo-mo. Hell yeah.

MiracleOfSound said:
Avoid the 'Come Fly With Me' quest, it seems to be the most common point where peoples' files corrupt.
Huh. And there was me, not saving in Novac as I thought saving there was what was buggering up my old saves.