Misconceptions about PC gaming.

[The_Prophet]

All good points. Altho i only have a pc i know my friends have to run around town paying massive amounts of money for their (i know one guy that has a xbox) xboxes and ps2s.
By the way, i live in serbia so don't ask why one guy and why PS2s

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

If you put the effort in, PC gaming is a much better experience.

If you're not willing to do so, then you're just going to waste money and be disappointed.

Please, why is it a better experience? I would like to know why. Aside from graphics, of course.

I have no problem with older PC games, pre-2006, or so, but I barely see any good PC-only games coming out, except for MMOs and Sacred 2.

You can run games better, imagine if you tryed running Eve Online on something like a ps3, or 360. It woudn't because they simply don't have the RAM to do so.

No, not really. Most of the RAM is eaten up by the operating system. DCU Online is getting released on the PS3, pretty soon, and it's a modern MMO.

Push Ctr-Alt-Del and see for yourself. Windows and background thinds, like AIM, MSN and net browser eat some 837 MB, on a barely-month-old system with no useless sht installed. I know, it's not RAM, but sorry, I don't know, how it's called it English and I'm too lazy to check.

My 6 year old stock dell computer can process the internet at little to no effort, I can have MSN open, downloading something and browse the internet and it doesn't chug at all.

Eve on the other hand has me chugging every second because of the sheer assload of stuff going on.

My PC doesn't chug at all, but consoles don't have all that crap flooding the ram. Most of the time, all they have is a spartanic OS (spartanic, as in little and efficent) and a game, while Windows is infamous for loading the system with useless processes. Plus antivirus, firewall and all that.

Saw your edit, never bothered to quote that.
Well, the raw engine is still going to be much more advanced, with more detail on the character models. But who cares, EvE is for people, that "are to nerds, what nerds are to normal people".

Better character models? Have you not heard of Eve Premium graphics?

 

[Goronian]

You'd think it would work though, Gears of War PC is meant to run on Vista.

That's my Vista!

My PC doesn't chug at all, but consoles don't have all that crap flooding the ram. Most of the time, all they have is a spartanic OS (spartanic, as in little and efficent) and a game, while Windows is infamous for loading the system with useless processes. Plus antivirus, firewall and all that.

The word is "spartan" (just use it in the context of an adjective) and start cliping your quote pyramid if you're going to continue arguing.

Sor-ry... Got a little lazy.

Better character models? Have you not heard of Eve Premium graphics?

Played it with all switches, not to the max, but going there, nothing special, seen better.
I couldn't even finish the 14-day trial. Gods, this game is boring. (That's coming from the guy, who is currently helping write the dialogue for a HoMM3.5 custom map, while testing it to death and actually considers doing a translation of that fan revamp of KOTORII.)

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I am going to stop arguing this, there is no reason. *Uses the Eggo Symbol*

 

[Goronian]

I am going to stop arguing this, there is no reason.

True, I'm just bored. Probably should go to sleep... Yeah, that's a good idea.

I would like to ask one last question before I go... Are there any high-brow games, that are NOT FPSes or RTSes, exclusive to PC, released recently or that are planned to be released soon? I want to give my PC a run for it's money and MMOs just don't cut it sometimes.

 

[Gormers1]

Ah but as a PC gamer (I'm one of them) you get a little extra something that console users don't get. Bullshit. Steam, for example, can be an incredible pain depending on your system configuration. Sometimes you'll just get that one game, that takes a god damn age and a magical balance of old driver/new driver to run. It's a hassle pleanty of gamers don't want to deal with.

Oh, and the ports are terrible.

I blame Microsoft for that, and I always will. I still cannot get GoW to work on my pc (vista 64 bit), and yes it is mostly epic games' fault but microsoft still has to give those games the green light.

Microsoft is the only one to blame? Nearly every game that is released on the consoles first is ported horribly to the pc. Cant come up with that many but GTA4, Devil may cry, Resident evil 4, and assassins creed are some examples.

 

[Gormers1]

not sure if I agree with you about shorter loading times but whatever.

 

[jamesworkshop]

Microsoft is the only one to blame? Nearly every game that is released on the consoles first is ported horribly to the pc. Cant come up with that many but GTA4, Devil may cry, Resident evil 4, and assassins creed are some examples.

Devil May cry 4 was an excellent port, In game AA setting supporting every Nvidia option (16xQ) even multi/super sampling, most native PC games dont have that I certainly can't think of any examples.
And no frame rate limit, my 9800GTX had no trouble maintaining a tripple digit frame rate in the in game bench mark.
Resident evil 5 will be made using the same engine so heres to an excellent port to make up for the shoddy last one (res 4)

 

[Baneat]

People are saying avoid prebuilt computers, but actually mine came out cheaper than if I were to buy the parts. And I get a warranty on it, and I don't actually have to build it.

 

[Gormers1]

Microsoft is the only one to blame? Nearly every game that is released on the consoles first is ported horribly to the pc. Cant come up with that many but GTA4, Devil may cry, Resident evil 4, and assassins creed are some examples.

Devil May cry 4 was an excellent port, In game AA setting supporting every Nvidia option (16xQ) even multi/super sampling, most native PC games dont have that I certainly can't think of any examples.
And no frame rate limit, my 9800GTX had no trouble maintaining a tripple digit frame rate in the in game bench mark.
Resident evil 5 will be made using the same engine so heres to an excellent port to make up for the shoddy last one (res 4)

Oh sorry about that, thought I heard it was. And yeah Res 5 should be better, theres no excuse to not have mouse support.

 

[jamesworkshop]

Personally i dont care much for playing ports on the mouse and keyboard although I did complete dead space using M/Kb and had no problems playing the game except for the default V-sync option creating mouse lag but that took no effort to fix since I instantly knew what the problem was.
Been playing TR:Underworld on my 360 controller with the only issue being a slight frame rate issue in the cut scenes but in-game wise it has been fine.
I personally think the quality of ports is getting better but the issues with GTA4 is because of rushing for x-mas and fallout 3 has bugs on every system so hopefully with mirror's edge skipping the holiday season it will be great since they seem to be working with Nvidia much like how I recon DMC4 was good because of that co-op between Capcom and Nvidia.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

not sure if I agree with you about shorter loading times but whatever.

More RAM+Greater powered CPU=Faster loading.

 

[searanox]

not sure if I agree with you about shorter loading times but whatever.

More RAM+Greater powered CPU=Faster loading.

Don't forget faster hard drives. Putting all my games on my new 500 GB Seagate hard drive increased my load times a good 25-40%. Getting a solid state drive will make loading almost instant for a lot of games, if you want to jump on the new and expensive technology.

 

[jamesworkshop]

not sure if I agree with you about shorter loading times but whatever.

You don't need to agree with me, all that I've stated there are facts. If you prefer to be illogical and disagree with facts then you're welcomed to it, just don't pull me in. (Well most of them are facts.)

It alwaysed made me smile reading the messages when getting to a new chapter in dead space and the level loading faster than the text so I could never actually read what it said

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

You don't need to agree with me, all that I've stated there are facts. If you prefer to be illogical and disagree with facts then you're welcomed to it, just don't pull me in. (Well most of them are facts.)

A couple were opinions and most aren't universal.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

you can't apply the same system to everyone otherwise you get a console.

Exactly my point.

You're only undisputable points are more mods and cheaper games. All else is either opinion or doesn't apply to every individual unit.