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Looks like we finally have a trailer for the My Little Pony Movie.

I'm not sure about the new visual style of it, although it looks more animated than the flash that the show uses. Overall it is a pretty good trailer, nothing in it is setting off warning bells telling me that it will suck. Hopefully they have enough time for it to be good. Although one thing that is bugging me is, where is Celestia and Luna? Are they on vacation or something, shouldn't they be smiting this punk who lands on their doorstep and says shes taking over?
 

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Very mixed feelings.

I'm not a fan of the animation style, but that's a minor gripe. I'm more iffy about whether it can even work. FiM, IMO, has usually been at its best when it's done slice of life type episodes. Sometimes it can go balls to the wall (Twilight vs. Tirek, the Daybreaker dream, the changelings storming Canterlot, Twilight vs. Starlight, etc.), but those have been the exceptions to the rule, and still within the confines of 20 minute episodes (or 40, if it's a two parter). A movie-length adventure story in a setting where the 'magic of friendship' is a literal force? This could easily go either way. It seems to be both self-aware, and...not.

Also, toys. Sea-pony versions of the Mane 6, the sea-ponies themselves, likely a playset with the pirate ship...yes, I know, MLP exists to sell toys, but for whatever reason, this felt more commercial than usual, and even the show itself has stumbled on its 'sale sellers' (e.g. the rainbow color scheme for the Mane 6...god I can barely even remember when that occurred, only that it did, and that it felt pointless).

As for Celestia and Luna...no idea. Granted, they let their kingdom fall on a semi-regular basis, but I have a feeling they may be cut entirely. The trailer is clearly trying to win over people not previously invested in the brand, given the info-dump, so maybe Celestia and Luna are liabilities in a movie that has as many characters as it does.

Course this is all a moot point, since the only way I'll see this is on DVD, if at all - I might like MLP, but I'm not going to subject myself to parents' stares in the theatre. Or children's stares for that matter...
 

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First, let us have a moment of silence for the passing of Ryan. RIP peperony and chease.

Sea ponies?!
*Shoo-Bee-Doo'ing intensifies*

Really, Twilight? "What can possibly go wrong?!" You of all ponies should know better than to tempt fate like that.

In all seriousness, it's a decent trailer that got me reasonably hyped. I'm not the rabid FiM fan I used to be, but I still enjoy it for what it is. I for one love the new animation style. It's like a cross between 90's Disney and Dreamworks animations, and that's not a bad thing at all.

The only thing that really bothers me is the use of utterly generic music for the trailer. That, coupled with all the hoopla over Sia as a guest star makes me worried that the wonderfully talented Daniel Ingram has been benched in favor of bland and forgettable pop schlock.
 

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Did they just... call upon the sea ponies?

Yeah, this looks pretty neat! Cool villain, decent jokes... My only worry is that it won't be shown with the original English-language dub here in Sweden.

Also, it's got Zoe Saldana, my favorite actor-who-constantly-plays-non-humans!
 

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Did anyone else get a vibe of Angel Grove Tv/ film comparison from seeing Canterlot???
No I'm not talking about the reboot of The Power Ranger, I meant the first English 90's version. I mean if you ever watched that and then see the first lived movie, seeing Angel Grove from a tv town to a film city was jarring and that how I felt upon seeing Canterlot!

By all means I'm still exited to see it and probably get used to it.

Now I hoping it I will try to watched it on a weekday and if the local cinema will show it near or around noon!
 

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Neverhoodian said:
It's like a cross between 90's Disney and Dreamworks animations,
As in 2D (Disney) combined with the humour style (DreamWorks)? Or as in the animation in of itself (only 2D DreamWorks animations I've seen are Prince of Egypt and Road to El Dorado, way back in the day).
 

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Some of the jokes fell flat, corny-as-hell dialogue, and kid vibes all throughout the trailer.

Not sure how to feel about it. I know MLP:FiM has the potential to be great like it once was, and add some amazing fights in the mix ... at least give us a good villain. I can't tell whether this one will work out or feel one dimensional with no edges around her.

Not a great feeling, but I do admire the animation at least. I also feel like some of the side characters are forced in so Hasbro can sell more toys. I hate it when companies do that.
I don't think your wrong about the corny jokes but comparing it to most kids movies trailers the jokes are positively high brow. Plus, no minions type characters.

I would argue the series is still great. I mean sure it has some misses but we still have some really big hits, like we finally got a Celestia/Luna episode and it was fantastic, plus we finally had one about the Apple parents and it was really really good too.

You might be right, but MLP just like Transformers is one of those shows based around selling toys. Really my big worry about the new side characters is that some of their designs doesn't fit into the show proper and to flesh them out the mane6 will be pushed to the wayside... aside from Twilight since in pretty much any adventure episode it kinda becomes the Twilight show and her friends are there.
 

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That sure is coming out about 5 years late. I mean, are we gonna pretend it's 2012 again? Should I get us all a cup of bubble tea? Maybe we can play some Minecraft afterwards. Hey, have you heard Rebecca Black's Friday? Epic fail. Gonna make a Rage Comic about it. Welp, don't forget to vote for Ron Paul! Maybe that way we can avert the Mayan apocalypse in November. I'm gonna jack off to Daniela Katzenberger now (To be fair, that one might have just been me)

You know what? Thinking about it, I actually kinda miss 2012.
 

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oh great, sea ponies... there's not enough shelves in my daugther room to put all the ponies she already have, and now i have to buy them again in sea version ?

oh well, the animation look good, just hope that we will get the same dub that we already have on tv here...
 

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That was a horrific trailer. The animation is cheap, the shadowing is all over the place, the mouths don't sync with the audio at all, they gave away the ending(in so much as we all didn't already assume the magic of friendship wins in the end), and they used that Pinkie falling, screaming, then laughing bit at least twice.

This was a horrifically made trailer.
 

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Hmmmmmmmmyeeeeaaahhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmeeeeeehhhhhpfffffffffffffbt... (<--- Me after the trailer ended). The 2D animation was great, but the 3D looks cheap and out of place on a high degree. Honestly, I imagine it'll be good, but not great. I don't think it'll blow minds at all
 

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Elvis Starburst said:
Hmmmmmmmmyeeeeaaahhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmeeeeeehhhhhpfffffffffffffbt... (<--- Me after the trailer ended). The 2D animation was great, but the 3D looks cheap and out of place on a high degree. Honestly, I imagine it'll be good, but not great. I don't think it'll blow minds at all
I know right, its so weird that we have this really nice 2d animation but then the airship is 3d but like... cheap 3d. Well, maybe not cheap but just... out of place.
 

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That looked awful. It's been over 5 years since MLP was worth paying attention to.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
That looked awful. It's been over 5 years since MLP was worth paying attention to.
I'm guessing you stopped watching at the end of season 3?
 

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Worgen said:
Drathnoxis said:
That looked awful. It's been over 5 years since MLP was worth paying attention to.
I'm guessing you stopped watching at the end of season 3?
End of season 2. There was a huge drop in quality between the first and second season. I made a thread on it at the time.

I did end up watching the premiere, finale, and Trixie episode in season 3, and I thought those were all pretty terrible too. Especially that finale. It's like they put no thought at all into making Twilight into a princess, and just rushed out the episode.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
Worgen said:
Drathnoxis said:
That looked awful. It's been over 5 years since MLP was worth paying attention to.
I'm guessing you stopped watching at the end of season 3?
End of season 2. There was a huge drop in quality between the first and second season. I made a thread on it at the time.

I did end up watching the premiere, finale, and Trixie episode in season 3, and I thought those were all pretty terrible too. Especially that finale. It's like they put no thought at all into making Twilight into a princess, and just rushed out the episode.
Season 3 had a couple good episodes, season 4 was quite good, season 5... season 5 was the best season so far, it had a ton of fantastic episodes like Tanks for the Memories, The lost Treasure of Griffonstone, slice of life, Amending Fences, Do Princesses Dream of Magical Sheep?, Canterlot Boutique, Rarity Investigates, Made in Manehattan, Brotherhooves Social, The One Where Pinkie Pin Knows, Hearthbreakers, and the Cutie Re-Mark. Season 6 is also quite good and so far Season 7, well its got hits and misses, but its hits are home runs that somehow count double. We finally got a Princess Celestia/Luna episode and its amazing/one of the top 10 episodes period and we got an Apple parent episode and its so touching.
 

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After seven seasons, I can't really say that MLP has gone in any one particular direction. It's more certain trends of seasons that stick out to me, but while I might remember an episode, I'd have a harder time placing it.

But I guess I can say:

-Season 1: Decent, very much a pilot season of sorts. Has a charm, but often gets too cutsie. It's FiM before it really took off, and the creators realized it had an adult fanbase as well.

-Season 2: A huge step up. I feel the show really hit its stride here, as while it didn't abandon its tone, it did make allowances for more mature viewers, which led to villains like Discord and Chrysalis, and far more 'wacky' episodes.

-Season 3: The point where it started to falter for me, for a variety of reasons. We start with the worst villain the series has given us (Sombra...and yes, I know the comics flesh him out), and ends with Twilight getting wings that feels like a desparate attempt (within the episode) to say "see, we planned this all along! How dare you suggest that we needed to sell a winged Twilight toy, forcing us to pull out an explanation from the blue?". Looking at the list on Wikipedia, there's also nothing that really stands out for me either - maybe Too Many Pinkie Pies, but apart from that, and the season openers/closers (for the wrong reasons), that's about it.

-Season 4: Season 4 is a step up from 3, and reminds me of Season 2 in a few ways. It's also at this point that I feel the series really started to benefit from string continuity. If Season 1-3 is the roadmap of Twilight getting to be the Princess of Friendship, Season 4 is her coming to terms with said role. It also introduces the more wacky episodes that I missed, with stuff like Pinkie Pride, Power Ponies, Daring Don't, etc. That, and also Discord's arc...sort of. And while Tirek is a 2D villain, he's at least an entertaining one that has balls to the walls action, with actual gravitas (Twilight loses her library). One downgrade I think is trading in the Elements of Harmony for the rainbow...stripe...things (God, I can't even remember what they're called). Like Twilight's castle, it felt like another excuse to sell toys, but unlike Twilight's castle, felt less in sync with the plot.

-Season 5: Overall, I'd call this a step up from Season 4, as it employs its strengths (string continuity, via the magic map), introduces Starlight Glimmer (who in this season, is a good addition), and gives us episodes like Lost Treasure of Griffinstone, Slice of Life, Crusaders of the Lost Mark, and Rarity Investigates. It also has a good ending...mostly. I mean, I can't feel sorry for Starlight Glimmer, but she at least presents herself as a good antagonist in this season. At the time, I remember on this forum that someone said that season 5 felt like an overall conclusion, and I could see what they were getting at. The Crusaders finally got their cutie marks, and Twilight appeared to have come full circle, starting off as a student, and making her way up to the point where she could take on a student of her own. Which brings us to...

-Season 6: A step down from Season 5 for me, and I think possibly the weakest season since Season 3. Thing is, Season 5 introduces a great concept, Twilight stepping into the role as teacher, and Starlight getting the spotlight. Thing is, this isn't what happens. Starlight comes in from time to time, but in what really should have been her season IMO, it's more business as usual. Likewise, while the previous seasons benefitted a lot from string continuity, this one doesn't employ it nearly as memorably. I mean, for instance, the Crusaders now know what to do with their marks, but it's less compelling than seeing them strive to get them. Rainbow's in the Wonderbolts, Rarity's doing well business-wise, Fluttershy has become more confident...with the Mane 6 having mostly achieved their goals, or in places where they were happy in life from the start (Applejack, Pinkie Pie), I found the series lost a lot of its 'oomph.' There were some stand-outs, such as Starlight becoming friends with Trixie, and "Stranger Than Fanfiction," but we still had to deal with episodes like "28 Pranks Later." Oh, and the ending. Screw the ending. Damn the point where the series reaches such smultz that the entire race of Changelings becomes good because friendship is so wonderful and SPARE ME! Starlight completes her 'arc,' but her appearances have been so inconsistent that it feels hollow.

-Season 7: I'm behind on episodes, but so far it's a step up. I actually like Starlight now, and we've got some good episodes like 'Rock Solid Friendship', and 'A Royal Problem' (if only for seeing Daybreaker). On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be any overall direction for the season yet, whereas seasons 4-6 felt like they had an overall drive to get somewhere.

So, overall, if I had to rank seasons, it would be 2>5>4>1>3/6 So, in short, I can't say that the series has gone in any one direction quality-wise, as it's gone up and down for me. But I think the main issue is that it's lost a lot of its punch. Still enjoyable, but as the saying goes, familiarity breeds contempt.
 

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Hawki said:
The Crusaders finally got their cutie marks
Huh, really? *Googles*

Those are... incredibly disappointing. Very cluttered and ugly, 3 separate symbols mashed on top of each other. And what's with the red white and blue, were they actually American cutie mark crusaders the whole time? Not only that but getting a cutie mark based on your group of friends in middle school just seems so wrong. Like what about when they have a big argument, split up, move to different towns, and don't talk to each other for 20 years? I bet having a cutie mark crusader cutie mark will feel pretty silly then!

Also does everypony get a big light show when they get their cutie mark? Or is that something special for main characters?