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Plurralbles

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Congrats scientists, you found yet one more thing that people use in their everyday lives that leads to cancer. What a news story! There ought to be a rule... if it exists... it causes cancer, except when it doesn't, and just happens to be an antioxidant. Yep, the universe is ripped apart into two groups: Carcinogen and Antioxidant.

*sorry if that's not the right terminology or carries the wrong connotations...

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/skin-and-hair/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100260739&GT1=31036


It's skin care, more specifically, SUNSCREEN! I dont' want to say it's ironic, but maybe...

edit: Dont' worry folks, it's just one study, and we all know how often they get completely turned on their head.

Dr. Marta Rendon, a board-certified dermatologist and global spokesperson for Procter & Gamble's Head and Shoulders division, tries to assure worried consumers that the results ? released last week by the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit public health organization ? come from animal testing only and are the findings of "just one study."
Except, it's Vitamin A which is the culprit... so... meh.

According to that study, nearly half of the 500 most popular sunscreens may actually increase the speed at which malignant cells develop and spread skin cancer such as melanoma.

Why? Because they contain Vitamin A, an ingredient that was added to sunscreen formulations because it's an antioxidant that slows skin aging.
 

Omikron009

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There doesn't seem to be enough information here to convince me of anything one way or another. I don't wear sunscreen anyway. I never go outside for long enough to warrant its usage.
 

Last Bullet

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So... enough either way gets you cancer? The sun is one badass mofo. I think this is documented, scientific (theoretical) proof we need to collectively get off this rock and go somewhere else.
 

CroMagnon

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Eukaryote said:
I remember reading an article not too long ago which found that the overwhelming majority of sunscreen offered almost no protection from the sun
Just plaster yourself with zinc paste. That doesn't cause Cancer, and I blocks out a massive amount of UV rays.
 

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CroMagnon said:
Just plaster yourself with zinc paste. That doesn't cause Cancer, and I blocks out a massive amount of UV rays.
Or, you know, wear clothes. Skin cancer is God's way of saying "You should've been more modest, lol."
 

spectrenihlus

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DJmagma said:
i don't go outside anyways, so this doesn't really affect me. besides, THIS is outside:

Why does that man on the left have tendrils of darkness coming out of him?
 

Booze Zombie

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Cancer is a product of life, the longer you live, the more time your body had to form errors.
In fact, cancer is apparently happening quite a lot in all of us, it's just suppressed before it can become a threat to your health.
Much like shooting a smoker! *Ba-dum-tish*

So, maybe it's just happening more now due to modern conditions weakening our immune systems?
Who can say?

All I know is, I drink water, I eat fruit, I do something vaguely similar to exercise... I'm not too bothered about life.
 

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Eukaryote said:
I remember reading an article not too long ago which found that the overwhelming majority of sunscreen offered almost no protection from the sun
The study found that the majority of people where not applying anywhere near enough to offer anything close to the level of protection on the bottle.
 

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DJmagma said:
i don't go outside anyways, so this doesn't really affect me. besides, THIS is outside:

Man, that's even better than this one:

And that one's pretty good.
 

Paksenarrion

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spectrenihlus said:
DJmagma said:
i don't go outside anyways, so this doesn't really affect me. besides, THIS is outside:

Why does that man on the left have tendrils of darkness coming out of him?
What do you mean, tendrils of-Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
 

Abedeus

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Booze Zombie said:
Cancer is a product of life, the longer you live, the more time your body had to form errors.
In fact, cancer is apparently happening quite a lot in all of us, it's just suppressed before it can become a threat to your health.
Much like shooting a smoker! *Ba-dum-tish*
I think you are confusing cancer with tumor.

Tumor is a growth, can be benign. If not, it's a cancer with its own blood vessels, allowing it to transport cancer cells through the bloodstream. That's why you can find out cancers from serology, but for tumors and fiber growths you must do CTs.
 

The Hairminator

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Eukaryote said:
I remember reading an article not too long ago which found that the overwhelming majority of sunscreen offered almost no protection from the sun
That's actually true. On a physics class my teacher brought a lot of expensive sunblocks, and tested them with a UV lamp. Turned out most of them didn't absorb much at all.
 

Booze Zombie

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Abedeus said:
I think you are confusing cancer with tumor.

Tumor is a growth, can be benign. If not, it's a cancer with its own blood vessels, allowing it to transport cancer cells through the bloodstream. That's why you can find out cancers from serology, but for tumors and fiber growths you must do CTs.
Well, whatever you call the result, I've been told cell errors happen all of the time in our bodies and they are suppressed before they become issues.

Not everyone manages to suppress all of them, however.
And that's either just plain un-luck of the draw or people have weaker immune systems now than "back in the old days".
 

Plurralbles

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DJmagma said:
i don't go outside anyways, so this doesn't really affect me. besides, THIS is outside:
Why does that man on the left have tendrils of darkness coming out of him?[/quote]

fuck.. that is hte slender man... Anyway, you probably have already been told that but I went to teh site where that's from, there is a youtube link on it, watched entry # 25, got up to look around my house because I was honestly freak out by it, no idea why, it's complete toss but I broke into a sweat and got chills and my stomach started aching and I felt the sensation of wanting to feint. It is 3 am here htough so maybe(probably) I'm just tired. I wonder if the slender man causes cancer? XD
 

Shockolate

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Great. The one thing I need to be outside for over an hour with getting sunburned is killing me.

Life is just awesome isn't it?
 

The Hairminator

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Eukaryote said:
The Hairminator said:
Eukaryote said:
I remember reading an article not too long ago which found that the overwhelming majority of sunscreen offered almost no protection from the sun
That's actually true. On a physics class my teacher brought a lot of expensive sunblocks, and tested them with a UV lamp. Turned out most of them didn't absorb much at all.
What were you measuring absorption with?
It was occular inspection, seeing if the different crémes reflected UV light at all (basically that means if they glow in UV light or not). Some did, some did not.