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The source [http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/the-grid/video-games-museum-of-modern-art-collection]

The Museum of Modern Art in Manhattan has announced the acquisition of 14 different video games as part of its permanent collection, giving gamers more ammunition in the argument that video games have artistic value.

?Are video games art? They sure are, but they are also design, and a design approach is what we chose for this new foray into this universe,? wrote senior curator Paola Antonelli.

?As with all other design objects in MoMA?s collection, from posters to chairs to cars to fonts, curators seek a combination of historical and cultural relevance, aesthetic expression, functional and structural soundness, innovative approaches to technology and behavior, and a successful synthesis of materials and techniques in achieving the goal set by the initial program,? Antonelli said about the selection criteria for the games included in the collection.

The first 14 games will eventually become part of a collection of 40 works. Beginning in March of 2013, the initial group of games will include Pac-Man, Myst, EVE Online and Portal.

When politicians first began attempted to regulate the gaming industry in the 1980?s, players that the games had intrinsic artistic value. Including several different forms or art packaged together, any single game comes with not only visual art but music and storytelling as well.

But not everyone agreed.

Film critic Roger Ebert once famously argued that ?video games can never be art? in an opinion piece for the Chicago Sun-Times.

?Let me just say that no video gamer now living will survive long enough to experience the medium as an art form,? Ebert wrote.

The piece amassed almost 5,000 mostly negative comments. While the Sun-Times enjoyed page view pay dirt, the internet exploded in a fury of anti-Ebertism.

As news broke of the Museum of Modern Art?s plans to feature video games, others joined Ebert in condemning video games as simple, valueless entertainment.

?The worlds created by electronic games are more like playgrounds where experience is created by the interaction between a player and a program. The player cannot claim to impose a personal vision of life on the game, while the creator of the game has ceded that responsibility. No one "owns" the game, so there is no artist, and therefore no work of art,? wrote Guardian art blogger Jonathan Jones.

Arguing on the side of the gamer, Penny Arcade Report Senior Editor Ben Kuchera uses Rock Band as an anecdotal example of a game becoming art.

?Yes, I think games are art. I think all games are art, in fact, although I also believe that most games are poor art. The problem is that we?re focusing on the wrong things when we have this conversation; whether we?re talking about a novel, a play, a painting, or a song, the best art creates emotion in the person consuming it,? wrote Kuchera in his exhaustive and thorough exploration of games as art.

Kurchera argued that the experience of playing a game is one of the most important aspects of its art. Games evoking such strong emotions may be what is driving gamers to so vehemently defend what are essentially computer programs as art.

With games becoming official modern art masterpieces, Roger Ebert?s argument may be getting owned.

TL;DR: Museum of Modern Art in New York adds videogames, art critics say "GAMES ARENT ART!!!", Museum tells critics "***** please"


Personally, I am happy about this. Its about time that gaming started getting reconginzed along side film etc as art in this age.
 

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Why do many people not consider games art?

What criteria do video games not meet in order to be called art?
 

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Newby_Newb said:
Why do many people not consider games art?

What criteria do video games not meet in order to be called art?
Art is such an abstract concept that deep down you can all anything art.
Just dropped a paint can? BAM it's art.
Did your toast have a funny mark? BAM it's art.
I guess the critics just want to retain the view that art is a picture on some kind of medium, not something that's interactive like a video game.
Just my guess though.
 

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Oh boy, here we go...
My opinion on this matter is that anything that evokes an emotion can be considered art.
 

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Sigh. This isn't a discussion on whether games are art. They are. Just because a couple of critics argue against it doesn't mean anything. They just are.

Anyway, it's lovely to see yet more recognition of this. More power to the museum, I say. Interesting choices as well, going on the 4 in the article. Pac-Man I'm guessing is there for historical and cultural value; Myst and Portal I'm guessing based on the creation of a world within them and the nature of the story, as well as Portal's massive cultural impact. Not sure about EVE Online, but having never played it I can't really comment. I'll be very interested to see what else gets put in.
 

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What do they mean games will be added to the museums? Will it be an exhibit in which you play video games? While I think games are art, I also believe they do not belong in a museum for the same reason that movies, most poetry, and novels don't belong in a museum. The medium is too personalized, interactive, and long to be fully taken in on a passing by in a museum.
 

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EscapeGoat said:
Sigh. This isn't a discussion on whether games are art. They are. Just because a couple of critics argue against it doesn't mean anything. They just are.

Anyway, it's lovely to see yet more recognition of this. More power to the museum, I say. Interesting choices as well, going on the 4 in the article. Pac-Man I'm guessing is there for historical and cultural value; Myst and Portal I'm guessing based on the creation of a world within them and the nature of the story, as well as Portal's massive cultural impact. Not sure about EVE Online, but having never played it I can't really comment. I'll be very interested to see what else gets put in.
I would say EvE Online is there due to it being a great example of something being truly community-driven. CCP essentially just gave the players of EvE a big toolbox and an even bigger place to faff about in and then just told them to get on with it. Which they essentially just did. A great example is the economy. Entirely player-driven. The only thing CCP did was supply the currency.
 

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Im officially artsy.. damnit

and why eve over wow? They didnt want their one-of-a-kind exhibit to be too mainstream?
 

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If anything, don't vidya games, especially these days, incorporate several types of art into one (usually) awesome package?

Background, 2D design, CGI movies, textures, 3D modelling, mo-cap, voice-overs, sound/music, level design, lore.....

Need I go on?
 

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The Smithsonian beat them to the punch.
http://americanart.si.edu/exhibitions/archive/2012/games/
 
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? Pac-Man (1980)
? Tetris (1984)
? Another World (1991)
? Myst (1993)
? SimCity 2000 (1994)
? vib-ribbon (1999)
? The Sims (2000)
? Katamari Damacy (2004)
? EVE Online (2003)
? Dwarf Fortress (2006)
? Portal (2007)
? flOw (2006)
? Passage (2008)
? Canabalt (2009)

If anyone wanted the list of 14 games
 

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AHAHSAHAHAHAHAHSHA!!! Mordern 'Art;! '
Aklthough ists stil nice to see videogames gettin a bit fo recognition.
 

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For me, art is something that people find visually/audibly stunning.
A rather soothing example would be the game Flower. The game is visually good and the sound of nature gives a soothing emotional impact. A rather casual and enjoyable experience.
 

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EscapeGoat said:
Not sure about EVE Online
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Lols, attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like... tears in rain. Time to die.
 

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The MOMA has done the right thing. After NEOLUDICA ART IS A GAME at Biennale Venice 2011 it was recognized that the world is a video game, a total bet on our future, in which video game as a medium, knowingly sprung from its own fiction, may finally get out of the mirror, like Alice, in order to express
its thought on a society that has never been so stratified and complex. The two realities ? which sum up to form one augmented reality ? are very much alike and cannot do without one another. Artists, creators, developers and players are then called upon to step up in class, andto accept a confrontation that
will be aesthetic as well as ethic, and therefore will bring upmore daydreams.Today more than ever we are moved by Lewis Mumford?s words from his 1934 essayTechnics and Civilization: ?Thanks to machines, we now have a chance to understand a worldwe contributed to create.?
In Italy the videogame is art and is exhibited in museums:
http://www.museoscienza.org/english/activities/assassins-creed/
http://www.artitude.eu/it/news/987-neoludica:-art-is-a-game-,-videogames-are-art
http://neoludica.blogspot.it/
Welcome the new artistic age!
 

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Pinkamena said:
Oh boy, here we go...
My opinion on this matter is that anything that evokes an emotion can be considered art.
My dick can evoke emotions, but I doubt you'll call that art.

OT:Cool, I guess? I dunno, never really got why people care too much about this whole debate.